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  Letting Go......

  by anewme in

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  2. beliefs

  "in the inevitable rising and falling, the cycles of expansion and contraction that come as you give birth to yourself, there may be moments to push, to strive toward a spiritual goal.

  but more frequently the task is one of leting go, of finding a gracious heart that honors the changes of life.

  "in all practices and traditions of freedom, we find the heart's task to be quite simple.

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  DHL

  Robdar, this was probably a simple misunderstanding. I totally agree with you that letting go (or refusing) existence wouldn't be right. But it can be quite helpful to conciously let go of an unwanted emotion (like anger) in a certain situation.

  For example can I become very upset about what somebody says to me. Now I have two possibilities: I can stay in that upset mood and maybe give a heated answer that I would probably regret later on or I can decide to let go of the anger and to calm down. Would you consider anger a blessing emotion or mood that you would love to stay in for as long as possible? In my opinion it's ok to acknowledge being angry but I don't want to stay in that mood forever because it makes me feel bad and unable to enjoy my day the way I want to. Letting go in that sense means the same as saying: "What the hell!"

  Of course, the best way of life would be to never feel a desire to get angry or upset about what other people say or do. But I have to admit I am still working on this one!
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  slipped through their fingers

  by Nadja in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  looks like i'm another better-luck-next-time for the jws.

  got to chapter 15 in the bible teach book and finally worked up the guts to end my study and tell them goodbye... .

  i can't believe i got so close to actually being baptized.

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  DHL

  Nadja, that was fabulous! You are definitely a smart lady!
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  Letting Go......

  by anewme in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "in the inevitable rising and falling, the cycles of expansion and contraction that come as you give birth to yourself, there may be moments to push, to strive toward a spiritual goal.

  but more frequently the task is one of leting go, of finding a gracious heart that honors the changes of life.

  "in all practices and traditions of freedom, we find the heart's task to be quite simple.

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  DHL

  Anewme,

  I want to give you a big "Thank you" for the "Letting go"-Post. It was like an answer on a question I asked myself yesterday.

  Again, thanks a lot!
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  It's judgment day with mum and dad

  by sass_my_frass in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, it's been brewing for a long time and i was getting ready for it, but i've finally gotten the shun-for-life from my folks.

  i was going to visit them in a few months and had arranged to see my non-witness grandparents for a few days too, and invited them along.

  here's there responese: (first from dad, then from mum)

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  DHL

  (((((Sass)))))! My heart bleeds for you!
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  Serious Conditioning/Brainwashing

  by KW13 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the witnesses we know are obviously brainwashed, but do you think we ever recover from what it did completely?

  does every part of jw'ness leave us?.

  i have a feeling that even if its not obvious, things from our personal insecurities to how we act and who we are is a result of the org, yes even if your the rebellious type cos then your just running away .

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  DHL

  Honestly I don't think I will live long enough to overcome every single wrong thing JW-related that was installed in me when I was a child because they are all hidden in the subcontious and have their own time-table to pop up. Only after the discovery of such a flaw you can work on them and finally get rid of them by exchanging them with something better. That's why people who have already left decades ago come by, too, and post here. They have come to recognise their recovery simply isn't complete yet. But I will never give up because of the many little successes along the way and how they enriched and improved my life. In fact over the past years I have changed from being downright miserable to being quite happy. Good reason to move on...
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  Could You Forgive the Watchtower?

  by Ms. Whip in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  did that question make you feel anger?

  did you automatically say "no way, never?

  i've been reading a little bit about what anger, resentment & bitterness does to our health.

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  DHL

  I am sure that I live to learn so every experience I make, no matter if nice or hurtful, includes a lection for me I want to learn. Seeing it that way I can be thankful even for the most hurtful parts of my past and the people playing a role in it because all of this made of me what I am today.

  So in my opinion neither forgiving nor forgetting but being thankful is the best way to handle the past. I love Christina Aguilera's song "Fighter". Here are the lyrics:

  When I, thought I knew you
  Thinking, that you were true
  I guess I, I couldn't trust
  'Cause your bluff time is up
  'Cause I've had enough
  You were, there by my side
  Always, down for the ride
  But your, joy ride just came down in flames
  'Cause your greed sold me out of shame, mmhmm
  
  After all of the stealing and cheating
  You probably think that I hold resentment for you
  But, uh uh, oh no, you're wrong
  'Cause if it wasn't for all that you tried to do
  I wouldn't know just how capable I am to pull through
  So I wanna say thank you
  
  'Cause it makes me that much stronger
  Makes me work a little bit harder
  It makes me that much wiser
  So thanks for making me a fighter
  Made me learn a little bit faster
  Made my skin a little bit thicker
  Makes me that much smarter
  So thanks for making me a fighter
  
  Oh, ohh
  
  Never, saw it coming
  All of, your backstabbing
  Just so, you could cash in
  On a good thing before I realized your game
  I heard, you're going around
  Playing, the victim now
  But don't, even begin
  Feeling I'm the one to blame
  'Cause you dug your own grave, uh huh
  
  After all of the fights and the lies
  Yes you wanted to harm me but that won't work anymore
  Uh, no more, oh no, it's over
  'Cause if it wasn't for all of your torture
  I wouldn't know how to be this way now, and never back down
  So I wanna say thank you
  
  'Cause it makes me that much stronger
  Makes me work a little bit harder
  Makes me that much wiser
  So thanks for making me a fighter
  Made me learn a little bit faster
  Made my skin a little bit thicker
  It makes me that much smarter
  So thanks for making me a fighter
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  Why some won't leave the Watchtower

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  name as many reasons as you can why some won't leave the watchtower organization, even though they know something is wrong.

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  DHL

  I guess the brain is just like any other muscle. If you don't work out you become lame. Some gave up thinking too long ago so they have no brain muscle tissue left over.
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  Do You Think "Apostates" Are All A Bunch of Whiners?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  every so often, you'll see a jw come onto these sites and bash us because we're only looking at the negatives regarding the witnesses.

  i don't think we are unfair at all.

  at least we speak the "truth".

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  DHL

  I think that people who leave a cult go through a transition. They start with realising they have been lied to and therefore feel like being a victim. This is surely a whining period. I think that's pretty normal. You complain about what you have lost (e.g. many years of your life, higher education, loved ones, ...). Later people tend to decide to stop feeling like victims and instead pretend to be responsible for their life and their happiness. That's when the whining stops.
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  Why are we still here ?

  by Genesis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi mighty apostate crew, .

  last weekend i was talking with my girlfriend and said to her that i was on an ex-jw forum.

  her reaction was : if jws do not bother you anymore why are you still trying get information on them ?

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  DHL

  I can say I'm free from the watchtower doctrine but I'm not yet totally done with my past and how it sometimes influences my presence. This forum works pretty well in giving me "thinking-kicks" I can work with. Every now and then I read posts and suddenly reach deeper understanding in things that were sublimal before. This can also happen, when I'm about to reply. Sometimes I write something and then I'm totally suprised by what I wrote and how it felt to write it. It's quite amazing. I consider myself very lucky to have found you all! I hope I can be of some help too, sometimes.
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  Awake only published once a month but still pitifully poor!

  by eyeslice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  looking through the latest copy of the awake that i got from my wife who has just got back from the meeting.

  what strikes me is that although the awake is now only published monthly it is still the same old tired format.

  'watching the world' still has the same pathetic cartoons, and the style and tone of the articles are just the same.

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  DHL

  a magazine that has a guaranteed captive market.
  
  What a waste!

  I would turn this around:

  Why should they waste time and money to change a magazine that has a guaranteed captive market?