Welcome traveller to the site they warned you about...lol
Enjoy the read...theres plenty to go at.
Welcome traveller to the site they warned you about...lol
Enjoy the read...theres plenty to go at.
ok, just to play devil's advocate for a minute here (or, now for our weekly session of classroom law on court tv .
posted below is a past new hampshire supreme court case that is very favorable to the wts position in the berry girls' case, and has surely been cited by them big time in their briefs (it was mentioned briefly by wts lawyer donald gardner in the audio, which has been posted on these boards several times, of the oral argument session before the nh supreme court.
laws 1971, 531:2. in 1973, the penalty section was amended to provide that a violation would constitute a misdemeanor.
In the research i have into the UK position on this it would seem that we would need to sue for negligence as a tort, the question really first of all is whether or not a duty of care can be established. The leading case on this is Caparo Industries Plc v Dickman.
Applying this case establishing a duty would depend on whether there was a direct or closely analogous precedent which established a duty of care or if not the following would need to be considered.
The damage suffered must be forseeable.
Their must be a sufficiently proximate relationship between the claimant and the defendant.
It must be fair just and reasonable to establish a duty of care given the public policy considerations.
I believe it could be an uphill battle here in this country but one i am prepared to conduct some research into...will keep you all updated as to my research.
G
this was mentioned on another topic but it needs it's own thread.
ok, i'm gonna say it again.
if your relatives will not speak to you.... do not let them have any contact with your children, period.
MP I know from previous posts you value your relationship with your mum and dad and thats to be encouraged but having the bible read to your son is like force feeding religion on the poor lad...if you find this objectionable you should say so; its not fair on your or your young lad.
Hope things resolve themselves.
G
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venezuelan president hugo chavez talks with people who were affected by flooding in araira in miranda state, about 50 km (31 miles) from caracas, venezuela, saturday, feb. 12, 2005, after floodwaters receded following a disaster that has left at least 15 people dead.
I understand that Art, but to me the people in the picture seem oblivious to the baby having lunch
The guy at the back however seems less oblivious....like all his christmas's have come at once??!!!
Bless him...its our dangly bits which cause us these problems; dont blame us...lol
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venezuelan president hugo chavez talks with people who were affected by flooding in araira in miranda state, about 50 km (31 miles) from caracas, venezuela, saturday, feb. 12, 2005, after floodwaters receded following a disaster that has left at least 15 people dead.
Ignorance and arrogance go hand in hand on this one unfortunately.
Dubs generally are much too concerned about modesty and repressing women into stereotypical roles than they are about caring about what could be best for a new born baby....f**kwits and throw backs the lot of em.
when i became a witness in ventura, california in 1973. i was 15 years old and in the tenth grade.
i was the only one in my family that was active though my mother, step father and my brothers thought the watchtower was the truth.
my step father had been raised a witness while my family was not affiliated with any particular church.
Heaven knows i think we have all been there at one time and done something or said something as a JW that is completely unbalanced; I am sure what you said is forgotten...she might even be on this ere website...i even came across someone who was a bridesmaid at my first wedding...small world.
A very sad story.and it makes me mad.
whilst i have every sympathy for you this is not uncommon; surround yourself with true friends...people who will stand by you unconditionally...people like those at the KH you do not need;
G
this might well be an old topic and covered many times in the archives...but i confess i have not read that far yet.
what has sparked this off is that i have had a conversation with my mother who is still a devout jw...until now i have never tackled her properly on doctrinal issues or on issues which i know would or could alter her belief system...she is one of those who i firmly believe need the witnesses as her crutch and to take it away would leave her life with a void she wouldnt be able to fill.
so i politely keep quiet and refuse to engage her when she quotes scripture and verse usually to point out how worldly i am and that i have changed...(typical guilt trip approach).. tonight was different in that i am getting married to my girlfriend in august and as such there are some friends who are disfellowshipped and disassociated going to be there...they are some of my best friends and companions during my young jw days and are great people and have stood by me through good times and the not so good....(more than the self professed christians did in the wts) .
MP sorry to hear about your parents...its sad when other children are involved...as adults we can try to understand and comprehend but to a child the world is very different...protect your son...hes better off without them...as hard as that must be for you. Like you say hopefully in time they will come around. Thanks for your kind words.
It does in some form because i got dragged into a Judicial Committee meeing for being a very naughty boy and was privately reproved...couldnt answer at the watchtower meeting for a while and couldnt go on field service....i was gutted...NOT
this might well be an old topic and covered many times in the archives...but i confess i have not read that far yet.
what has sparked this off is that i have had a conversation with my mother who is still a devout jw...until now i have never tackled her properly on doctrinal issues or on issues which i know would or could alter her belief system...she is one of those who i firmly believe need the witnesses as her crutch and to take it away would leave her life with a void she wouldnt be able to fill.
so i politely keep quiet and refuse to engage her when she quotes scripture and verse usually to point out how worldly i am and that i have changed...(typical guilt trip approach).. tonight was different in that i am getting married to my girlfriend in august and as such there are some friends who are disfellowshipped and disassociated going to be there...they are some of my best friends and companions during my young jw days and are great people and have stood by me through good times and the not so good....(more than the self professed christians did in the wts) .
To you and I it is a no brainer....i think the issue was the disfellowshipped friends being present but your right family should come first.
what can you do with people who are so heavily indoctrinated...?