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  Blood issue is becoming unavoidable for me since she wants another child

  by Check_Your_Premises in

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  does anybody have info, or know where to find the following info.

  1. what % childbirths require blood transfusions for mother?

  2. what % childbirths require blood for child?

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  Check_Your_Premises

  Thanks alot Rebel. I really appreciate you finding that stuff for me. I wouldn't have known where to begin. Hope I can repay the favor sometime.

  CYP
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  Blood issue is becoming unavoidable for me since she wants another child

  by Check_Your_Premises in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  does anybody have info, or know where to find the following info.

  1. what % childbirths require blood transfusions for mother?

  2. what % childbirths require blood for child?

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  Check_Your_Premises

  Not at all Avashi. That is a fair question.

  I don't, to tell you the truth. That one is a little hard to say, and still keep her trust.

  The blood issue is VERY relevant to our situation, and very touchy. We lost our son during delivery due to a placental abruption. It was almost a year ago, and I am still sad most of the time. I am not looking forward to another pregnancy at all. On the other hand in a strange sort of way I feel I owe it to my son to not be a pussy. I don't know if that makes sense.

  The sad fact is that having an abruption makes it more likely to have another (17% more likely). Placental abruptions are as I understand it, a major cause of blood loss during pregnancy.

  She is ready to go, we talked in the past about starting now. I have found other reasons to put it off, but it is becoming more difficult to explain.
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  For all husbands with believing wives......

  by jeeprube in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ithinkisee's thread and the responses got me to thinking.

  i'm in a situation similar to his, and it sounds like a lot of other husbands here are also, or have been.

  so lets sound off.

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  Check_Your_Premises

  I would never judge a person that they should have done something different.

  Nor would I. However, I would be careful of considering advice from someone who failed to meet an objective that I want to acheive for my family and my situation, unless it was as a lesson in what not to do. I realized early on that there were many here who had no interest in helping me. They had failed to meet their objectives, and in a sick sort of way they feared that my success would somehow present them with the painful realization that their failures were avoidable. I have no time for them.

  This is essentially warfare for you Jeep. You will win or lose. When you are engaged in warfare there is simply no room for those things that will be a hinderance to victory. One of the biggest hinderances to victory is low morale. A good way to get low morale is to focus on the appearance of unavoidable defeat. You really can't ever concern yourself with costs of victory or the likelihood of defeat. You should definitely consider the effectiveness of any strategy, and make changes based on reality. But the warrior mentality only considers and works towards the defeat of the enemy. There is no room for despair or pessimism.

  Good luck fighting the fine fight of the faith.

  See you at your wife's da party!!! Now go kick some ass.

  CYP
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  Blood issue is becoming unavoidable for me since she wants another child

  by Check_Your_Premises in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  does anybody have info, or know where to find the following info.

  1. what % childbirths require blood transfusions for mother?

  2. what % childbirths require blood for child?

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  Check_Your_Premises

  Does anybody have info, or know where to find the following info
  
  1. What % childbirths require blood transfusions for mother? 2. What % childbirths require blood for child? 3. What blood components would be likely to be required? 4. What % of transfusions of those components result in complications?

  5. What % of placental abruptions require the mother to have a transfusion?

  
  This is my lead in info/questions. I will use this as the starting point to build my case both biblically (from ISOCF) and medically (I think all components are transferred between mother and child!!! God doesn't seem to mind blood transfusions!!!), eventually showing her the silly changes in organ transplants and vaccinations. I will let her know that current policy has changed, that blood transfusions are da, which means no investigation. I am sure there are some HIPPA issues with them asking you about it. Finally if she refuses to take blood under any circumstances during birth, I will likley be forced to refuse to have another child based on the above statistics.

  I have been praying on this one alot.
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  For all husbands with believing wives......

  by jeeprube in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ithinkisee's thread and the responses got me to thinking.

  i'm in a situation similar to his, and it sounds like a lot of other husbands here are also, or have been.

  so lets sound off.

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  Check_Your_Premises

  And maybe another peice of advice might be to keep your correspondence limited to those who have a positive attitude, and who have had some successes. Why listen to people who have screwed up. No offense to those folks, I have made many mistakes in this most strangest of journies. But common sense dictates that you talk to those making progress rather than those who might want some company in failure.

  Until you read Hassan's book(s), the number one thing I could tell you is that any effort to free your wife from the tower has to be based on trust. If you don't have her trust you will get nowhere. If you don't have her trust, you need to start repairing it. That is all you should work on. It is that important.

  How to build trust. Find areas of agreement. Talk to her as a person, not someone you are trying to sell something to. Be genuinely curious as to how/why she is thinking/feeling/concerned about the things she is. Keep calm. Smile. Tell her how much you love her. Validate her intentions in choosing to believe in the jw. They are honorable intentions and should be treated as such. Demand the same for yourself. God gave you a conscience because he expects you to use it. You are using it, and hers is not more important than yours.
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  For all husbands with believing wives......

  by jeeprube in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ithinkisee's thread and the responses got me to thinking.

  i'm in a situation similar to his, and it sounds like a lot of other husbands here are also, or have been.

  so lets sound off.

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  Check_Your_Premises

  Hey Jeep.

  Never a dub. Got caught when I wasn't looking. Now that I know what they are I am trying to help my wife leave.

  Sounds like you were a dub, and told your wife you are not a dub anymore. Tough position. Usually you want to try to open her eyes a bit before you do something like that. Now you are an apostate and not worth listening to. That makes your job a little tougher.

  Your job is to help her leave the org. If you are still a Christian, then your job is to lead her to Christ, and let Him do the rest.

  Steven Hassan's Combatting Mind Control, and Releasing the Bonds are required reading. Most here would agree.

  Best of luck to you. Feel free to check out my topic history to follow my story, my bio, or even PM me if you have any other questions.

  Also send a pm to JGnat. She is a never-dub ubm (unbeleiving mate) who has some great advice and experience with dealing with this awful situation. MJ is another good guy to talk to. Kls, the listener, and of course ithinkisee.

  Take care.

  CYP
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  CRUMPET BROKE HER LEG

  by tijkmo in

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  2. friends

  just found out...details sketchy...happened last night..will tell you more as i find out...shes home alone

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  Check_Your_Premises

  Any news!!!

  Is anyone in touch with our dear, sweet Crumpy?

  I am hoping to hear soon that she is ok, so I can start making fun of her without feeling like a bastard.

  That'll teach Mr. Crumpet to leave you alone again.
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  CRUMPET BROKE HER LEG

  by tijkmo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just found out...details sketchy...happened last night..will tell you more as i find out...shes home alone

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  Check_Your_Premises

  Oh no! I hope she is ok.

  On another thread I complimented her drinking and asked her to take some pictures of herself. I hope neither or a combination of those two led to her broken leg.

  I guess Mr. Crumpy just can't leave her alone.
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  keep her alive til 5!

  by Crumpet in

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  2. friends

  i put this on "friends" cos i think you are!

  mr c(crumpet) has gone away on holiday until sunday at 5. i am all alone and with 8.00 to last me the whole time from now until then.

  i think i am going to feel lonely - in fact i am already - so this is an open thread.

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  Check_Your_Premises

  Poor Crumpy. All alone with nobody to do things to/with her.

  Do you have your camera handy. Maybe I can come up with some new ideas for your avatar?

  I would still love to see one of you eating a banana or a popsicle. Those shouldn't cost much.

  Or how about one smoking a cigarette.

  I figure you are bored, and therefore vulnerable to my otherwise resistable suggestions.

  Have you already snooped through Mr. Crumpy's things? You probably had that one taken care of within 20 minutes of him leaving.

  CYP
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  DID YOU KNOW THIS about the BIBLE?

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the oldest manuscripts are not considered the most reliable.. there are no "autograph" texts.

  none.. there are no "original" manuscripts.. no two manuscripts agree.. the bible as we know it only came together in the form it now holds because certain men decided it should do so.. neither jesus nor his apostles or disciples carried bibles.. the apostle paul didn't carry a bible and none of his letters were in any of the scrolls considered holy scripture at the time he was preaching and forming christian theology as it is now understood to be.. largely, what the bible is today, is the result of certain men with certain agendas who had the authority to make their project happen.

  they also had the power to destroy writings which did not agree with their agenda.

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  Check_Your_Premises

  Good stuff Terry.

  You ignorant heathen slut.

  Just kidding. Glad to see you still have that chip on your shoulder.

  I have been making quite a bit of difficulty for people lately by pointing out that if an argument does not follow directly from its premise statements it cannot be said to be true or false, only likely or unlikely.

  I guess "how long have you been in the likely" just doesn't roll off the tongue.