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How often do disassociated people go back to the organization?

by SEL in

a friend disassociated in order to get divorced, hoping not to get disfellowshipped.

some time later, he has a serious non-jw girlfriend whom he'll probably end up marrying.

the thing is, he didn't disassociate because he no longer believed the wt doctrines.

Check_Your_Premises

Sel,

In my experience, young people will often leave to sow some wild oats, but in their heart they still believe the doctrine.

This type of JW is a a common source of the sad critter, the "Unbelieving Mate".

The prodigal JW will start to date some poor, unsuspecting non-witness. Dating leads to love, love to marriage, marriage to children.

Now this person who left the organization to experience some freedom becomes terrified by the overwhelming duties of parenthood. They feel compelled to offer their child a sense of purpose, morality... a concept of faith. They feel called for the sake of their children to be the persn they always wanted to be. Since they were JW, and taught to be contemptuous toward every other concept of faith, they naturally return to the fold.

Now their poor spouse, who thought they simply married this nice, upstanding person who just so happened to formerly be a member of some wierd religion that they don't know much about , suddenly finds themselves married to... SUPER WITNESS.

oops. ouch. ugh.

Not so hilarious hijinx ensue.

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The Happy Marriage Is the Me Marriage

by whereami in

the happy marriage is the me marriage by tara parker-popepublished: december 31, 2010recommendtwittersign in to e-mailprint</form>reprintssharea lasting marriage does not always signal a happy marriage.

plenty of miserable couples have stayed together for children, religion or other practical reasons.. heads of state .

the week in reviews guide to a healthier, happier 2011.. tara parker-pope on love.

Check_Your_Premises

“If your partner is helping you become a better person, you become happier and more satisfied in the relationship.”

So if they stop doing this ditch em?

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The Prodigal Unbelieving Mate Returns

by Check_Your_Premises in

hey all.. a few of you might remember me.

i showed up on a similar board a few years back because my wife was getting baptized.. it was a difficult time but i was able to work through it with a lot of prayer and help from a lot of smart folks here.. my wife has since left the organization, and the wt has faded into a tiny speck in our rearview mirror that we rarely talk about.. i have enjoyed being free from the watchtower driven life for awhile, and frankly i really needed it, but i also know that alot of people aren't so lucky.

insomnia and a sense of duty has compelled me to wander back in here.

Check_Your_Premises

Hey all.

A few of you might remember me. I showed up on a similar board a few years back because my wife was getting baptized.

It was a difficult time but I was able to work through it with a lot of prayer and help from a lot of smart folks here.

My wife has since left the organization, and the WT has faded into a tiny speck in our rearview mirror that we rarely talk about.

I have enjoyed being free from the Watchtower Driven Life for awhile, and frankly I really needed it, but I also know that alot of people aren't so lucky.

Insomnia and a sense of duty has compelled me to wander back in here. I figure that there are some who might benefit from my story and experience. I sure don't know what I would have done without some of the people here!

So it is time for me to give back a little. So much was given to me.

See you around.

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My Marriage Ending...Or Other Options

by doinmypart in

i don't usually post regarding my personal relationship, but i need some help.. i've been married for 20+ years (married young, both of us raised as witnesses), and my wife and i have kids.

my wife feels like i've disappointed her, made a fool of her, and betrayed her when i stopped being a witness.

other than the witness-thing we seem to have a pretty good marriage, but she can't get over the fact that i'm never going to be a witness again.

Check_Your_Premises

That is really sad.

When the WT became a source of contention in my marriage, the thing that helped the most was to enhance and strengthen the other parts of the marriage and your lives in general.

It was very painful when my wife was baptized, but in the end I am grateful for the experience because it made me a better husband.

There is a time element here. It sounds like this is a relatively new development, and that this new change in status has not yet been processed and reached a steady state. It will take time to hash all this out. Especially with regards to the children.

In the mean time, provide as much stability in every other area of your marriage/life. Try to appreciate just how shocking and disconcerting all this is for here. She is likely questioning everything about you.

I know this is hard. But for better or worse, right? The hardest thing is to love when someone is unloveable, or who doesn't love you back, or rejects your love. But love isn't a feeling, it is a commitment, a promise. Make that a starting point, and I think you will have a good foundation for which to resolve the rest of the issues.

And who knows... when she sees that your leaving didn't change all the other things about you that she loves, maybe she will decide that leaving the org isn't the worst thing in the world.

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Fornicate so he can remarry??

by juci32 in

hey guys!

i've been here a while, posted a few topics about me and my witness hubs.

well i finally through in the towel and filed for a divorce.

Check_Your_Premises

Well, I presume at some point that you will remarry. So maybe just tell him that he can keep an eye out in the newspaper for the announcement? But telling him after you are divorced seems kind of silly, and not really your problem.

It is extremely difficult being married to a witness. One that was born "in" and has family "in" is probably unreachable.

I hope I am not out of line here, or being overly simplistic... but have you considered that God brought you together with a witness for a reason, and that maybe divorce is not what he had in mind for you here? Again, sorry if I am overstepping.

-CYP

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Hey all, long time no talk...

by Check_Your_Premises in

jw
friends

i know someone who would might like to post here.. the problem is the login doesn't work.. it would also probably be best for this person to go somewhere, where i haven't spent so much time.. is there another board that a lot of the jwd folks use?

nice folks, lots of people who left for conscience reasons?.

cyp.

Check_Your_Premises

I know someone who would might like to post here.

The problem is the login doesn't work.

It would also probably be best for this person to go somewhere, where I haven't spent so much time.

Is there another board that a lot of the jwd folks use? Nice folks, lots of people who left for conscience reasons?

Thanks,

CYP

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HLC Elder questions....

by besty in

i am about to post some questions to a local hlc elder that i used to be friends with.

now, of course, we are no longer friends.

i want to post him information from the society's own literature and ask him questions as to why he continues in his role etc .

Check_Your_Premises

Here is my "best of" http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/16/149428/1.ashx

I put it together while my wife was in the hospital as an attempt to sway her. It is a direct, frontal assault, and it tries to cut off ALL jw avenues of approach and exit.

The structure is such that it is meant to kick out all 3 legs of the jw stool.

1. Is there a scriptural basis for banning blood as a life-saving medical procedure?

2. Should the JW be trusted to interpret the scripture on this matter based on logic, medical facts, and history.

3. Has God ever given authority to men over other men in such matters?

If you use 'em let me know how it goes. I gave them to the local PO and they never came back.

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Circuit Assembly - schedule/notes

by Check_Your_Premises in

my wife's circuit assembly was cancelled due to a gas leak!.

does anyone have any info on the circuit assemblies?

i am sure the threads were posted long ago.. any threads on the convention as well?.

Check_Your_Premises

Well some things go without saying of course.

However if my beloved wishes to go there isn't alot I can do.

She asked if I could get the schedule, talk list, that kind of stuff, so I figured someone probably talked about it here.

Also, any convention threads? new publication?

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Circuit Assembly - schedule/notes

by Check_Your_Premises in

my wife's circuit assembly was cancelled due to a gas leak!.

does anyone have any info on the circuit assemblies?

i am sure the threads were posted long ago.. any threads on the convention as well?.

Check_Your_Premises

My wife's circuit assembly was cancelled due to a gas leak!

Does anyone have any info on the circuit assemblies? I am sure the threads were posted long ago.

Any threads on the convention as well?

Thanks all

MDP

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Blood question

by civicsi00 in

i just had a thought about something... does anyone remember the text where jesus cured someone on the day of the sabbath and the pharisees got mad at him for doing that, on the day that no one is supposed to do anything?

because, if i remember correctly, jesus then corrected them and stated that it was better to help save a life than to obey every letter of the law.

where i'm going with this is, can't this scripture apply to the watchtower when denying someone a blood transfusion?

Check_Your_Premises

In this thread I address the blood question on 3 points:

1. Is it scriptural.

2. If #1 is questionable, can we rely on the WT to provide the correct interpretation of the verses in question.

3. Even if it is wrong, should we obey the WT anyway since they are God's ORganization?

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/16/149428/1.ashx

I addressed the verse you mentioned in section 1.

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