Luna2 I also have a Problem with David being used an an example, I am so tired of having to refer to the Psalms that, that idiot supposedly wrote, he was a killer, had a mans wife brought to him sudueced her, had a child with with her, had her husband killed and the penalty for this do without a litte food while the child is dying, then eat up. JUst how was he disciplined, he family was screwed up not him, other people were killed over his census not him, other people died because of him, but God didnt do shit to him. I spit on david or would if it was possible, he is so not an example for others to emulate.
buffalosrfree
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Esther was not exemplary
by rebel8 ini watched a documentary on the discovery channel about esther's life.
i was reminded that--despite how many times i was told as a jw girl that esther was a role model--here are the things she did:had sex with the king before she was even engaged to marry him.
(according to the documentary--i don't remember that part)spent much of her time doing beauty regimens.married an unbeliever.participated in politics.concealed her ethnic background and religious beliefs.purposely got her husband and his friends drunk.only stood up for her fellow believers after being begged to by her dad and even then did so by a serious of manipulations.. if there were chat rooms back then, esther probably would have visited them too.
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MICHAEL, Jesus or someone else?
by cyberguy inwhat is your view?
is the michael in the bible jesus or someone else?
i've heard and read much debate on this important question, but i would appreciate your views!
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buffalosrfree
I find it hard to believe that anyone would believe that Jesus is also Michael the arkangel or arcangel I mean get real. Haven''t you ever watch old western movies, Does the leadr of the calvary also become the bugler blower because he attacks at the sound or with the sound of the bugle?// I mean come on lets use some common sense here.
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I may have sealed my fate.....
by atypical inwell, i have been trying to fade peacefully for months, for the sake of my wife and family.
to do this, i have had to hold my tongue about most of what i know, and i have done a good job of it until now.
the other day, i was hanging out with my buddy who misses most meetings, but still believes it's the truth.
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i remember being asked about whether or not I believe that God is using the faithful and discreet slave class today, and that the fds is the governing body of the society or something like that. So,,,, I told them I have been researching it, and have found no proof from anyone about it other than their sayso so if they have more proof I would sure like to have it so that it could solidify my belief structure and ensure more belief in the society. They as usual were a little bit set back from this, and quickly changed tactics, w/o answering my question. So I went rigfht back to it, other than the society's say so, what proof exists that they are that Faithful and discreet Slave they talk so much about being? Again, there was no real respone, other than to say that the society knows they are, and their growth shows that, So I told them that Scientology started in the late 50's early 60's and now has 10,000,000 members. How can we say that growth is an indicator of Jehovah's blessing when after 131 years or so we only have 6 million plus members, and yet this religion only 40 years or so and they have 10 million members, who is really being blessed by Jehovah here? You could have heard a pin drop in a deep carpet it was so quiet. They again tried to change the subject and I let them. They went to Matt. about teacfhing and baptizing in the name of the father, son, and holy (oops excuse me) gods active force and didnt I believe that this was a commission from God for us to go out in service. I replied no it wasnt, as that commission was only given to the 11 apostles still existing at that time, and that they should read all of that chapter of the bible and not just a verse or two. So i asked them a question, if Jesus said that all nations would see him arriving on the clouds, in Matt and Rev, why do they say that he would had arrived invisibly?? Who is going to have it right Jesus or the Society????? They left shortly there after and of course couldnt satisfactorily answer the question.
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How to destroy the Watchtower Organization
by saved in.
destroyed like bankrupt, unable to function as an organized religion, or whatever that will make all jws really wake up and think that this organization isn't what they think it is.. ideas?
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buffalosrfree
The blood issue is a big one, currently I am having health problems which may or may not take in blood transfusions (that is having to get one or more). My wife mentioned this to her two friends (jdubs) and they just about had a fit, said I couldn't get a transfusion because it would be a sin against Jehovah, one this is almost unforgiveable and that if I did I would be disfellowshipped from the witless org. I told them I was already inactive, and i would do whatever it was that the Medical Personnel Doctors etc. decided i needed to do, and that I wouldn't die for an organization especially a book publishing company. That if they read the Bible with thier non JDUB eyes they would see that the bible was speaking of killing animals and draining that blood out. However, whatever I decide to do won't be based on what the elders, society, or anyone nonmedcial has to say as they the society only have my death in mind not my health, to them it is better to die for a publishing company rule. What a bunch of egg heads, I told them they don't really believe the blood issue, they said of course they did, well several days later I mentioned that the society was maybe going to change the blood policy would they take transfusions then and of course they both agreed that they would, so I asked them are you obeying the bible or the society when you answered me. They looked at me as if I had come from outer space and didn't bother to anwer realizing that they had been caught.
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last days?
by mjs mouse, ben inrecently overheard some jw relatives talking, the term we're in the "last days of the last days" was being used frequently, i didn't want to ask them, it would of turned into an argument.
wtf does this imply?
is anyone else hearing this?
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They are into the end, the end of the b.s. would be nice wouldn't it? I get so tired of hearing that, we stayed at a sister's house the other day and thats all I heard, Jehovah this, Jehovah that, just leave it on Jehovah, etc. etc. We are so far into the end of things etc. etc. etc. i didn't bust her bubble because all she has is her religion, but really you would think just once in awhile one of these people would open their eyes and think about what it is they are saying.
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update on my neutropenia
by buffalosrfree inwent to dr. again, they believe i am either severly malnourished or have cancer.
so there i sit and wanted to laugh because with all the test that they have taken, i am still in the same bag i was several weeks ago.
took more blood for more tests.
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buffalosrfree
Sorry about the delay in replying.
Yes I was aware of the fact about being malnourished, I had gastricbypass op last year, but haven't quit losing weight, had stopped for awhile and then have continued along with being very weak and run down. The Drs. aren't sure what is causing it. The malnutrition, or the possibility of Leukemia, just would like to find out which one, the weight loss has really accelerated in the last month. I am wearing clothes sizes that I hadn't been able to wear since high school, and that was many years ago.
Which ever it is I just wish they could get it diagnosed correctly so we can get on the road to redemption so to speak and get it taken care of or at least try to.
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Would you give blood now? Would you accept it?
by sass_my_frass inhow do you feel about blood now?
the thought of taking a blood transfusion still gives me the creeps... but now i know that i'd take one if my life was on the line.
i'm thinking about giving blood too.
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buffalosrfree
That will be a double yes and yes, aye aye to it.
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Can You See ThatThere's No One Left To Do Anything Around The Kingdom Hall?
by minimus indo you realize that now elders are forced to "set the example" and do menial tasks like mow the lawn, clean the bathrooms and "handle the mikes".
there's no one left!
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buffalosrfree
Before my disappearance, I was asked to keep up the hours as they were considering me for of all things a ministerial servant. Told them no thanks, I have no wish to be one again, and wouldn't accept it if it was offered. I also told them several weeks later if i wanted to run the sound (music supposedly) and hand out the microphones, I again told them no I wont do that, I didnt come here to work, or to be worked and you pay isn't very good, and all I will be told is that I am not doing enough for God. So no. Microphones I told them was a joke, you have 12 year old boys handing them out here, how could that possibly be a privilege?
I told the elder asking (my book study((thats a laugh)) conductor), that when you guys start calling certain things privileges, it means you want someone to do a lot of free work, and I won't work for free for anyone nomore, so NO THANKS, I think he finally got the message.
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USA service report shows a decrease of 1442 publishers
by truthseeker infrom september 2004 to july 2005, there has been no increase in the number of publishers reporting for the 2005 service year, which began last september.
september 2004 - 990,551 .
october 2004 - 993,476 .
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Hurrah for the nonincrease, but with a little judicial annointing of the numbers (an out right lie) they will have zero growth or an increase. I mean 15 minutes who is kidding who here.
Peole lie about their time anyway except for the few diehards.
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All Ex-JW's...what made you get out?
by noelle2375 injust curious about what made you leave the religion?
was it hard?
is it possible to get someone that has jw beliefs to see the other side?
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John 17:3 The taking in of knowledge of the supposed channel used by God today. 2Cor.4:4 not being blinded by the b.s. spouted from their mounths.
Knowledge opened my eyes, especially about 607 BCE.
Never doing enough in the field service.
How could they be the channel used by God today when they can't seem to stick to one story.
revised history accounts
Their supposed love, get hurt and you disappear, and when you happen to show up people look at you with the jaundiced eye.
The meetings were so dull, they made me nap almost continually.