Effervescent

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  How would you describe yourself since leaving the borg?

  by hambeak in

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  for me i found myself more involved politically and in community and business affairs.

  not as cynical as i once was and not as judgemental as when i was a jw.

  also more empathetic about people and finally able to see some beauty in the world.

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  Can I choose "D"- All of the Above?

  I identify with what everyone else has said, and also... an even bigger thing for me... is the absence of FEAR. I used to be so afraid every second of my life because I knew I wasn't measuring up to "Jehovah's" standards. I knew I was going to die soon and it made me horribly sad because I hadn't done anything with my life, it revolved around making other people happy and hiding who I really was. And I didn't even do that very well... making others happy with me, that is.

  Now, I don't obsess about my own death and with measuring up to someone else's unreachable standards. I live a moral life, do my best to help others in need, take care of my family and pay my taxes. It's so nice to walk around without the world sitting on my shoulders.
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  What kind of perfume/cologne do you use?

  by purplesofa in

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  i have lots of perfume.....love to smell good.. estee lauder.......pleasures.

  eternity summer.

  jessica mcclintock.

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  Organza Indecence by Givenchy- bottle looks like a naked woman, love it! It has a heady oriental fragrance, it's my night time "Mama needs some TLC" choice.

  Happy- my everyday scent... citrusy and fun...
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  Oh Brother....

  by mama1119 in

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  2. experiences

  this morning my doorbell rang, and i usually never answer my door unless i know someone is coming, because this is thick jw territory, but i did, and low and behold, its a lone jw.

  he was working on the construction site across the street and was trying to locate the owners of a cat he kept seeing.

  he didn't recognize me at first, he was looking at my halloween decorations, and then back at me like he knew something was off...so finally, he asked my name.

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  Oh gosh... this brought back great memories of my Dad saying to me "You're a smart girl, you' know what's right and will figure it out".

  Yeah... I figured out a lot more than he would have ever dreamed....
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  Which did you fear more as a JW, God or the Elders?

  by JH in

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  i felt that god understood if i missed meetings or didn't go out in the field service very much, but the elders wouldn't.. bottom line, i feared the elders more ...... that's pretty sad.

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  What Restrangled said...

  Mostly I feared my Dad, but then he was an Elder so maybe that counts?

  The only time that it actually entered my mind to fear the Elders was when I had to go to a Judicial Meeting. Then I was shaking in my boots.
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  Girls/ ladies, were the sister`s competetive in your congs?

  by dido in

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  i don`t know about your congs, but the ones i were in became like fashion competitions between some of the sisters.

  i noticed how some of them would look you up and down, very obviously, then the following week wear something identical.

  i hate being the same as other people, so it used to p... me off, but i couldn`t believe how competetive they were.

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  I don't remember the congregation I left from being competitive like that. It was an older majority though, and it seemed like everyone was related somehow. One big happy disfunctional family if you know what I mean.

  I had family that was in a different congregation about 100 miles away that was very much like you describe though. Very much about appearances and who was wearing what. It was all silliness and pettiness. They spent more effort worrying about what everyone else had on than "partaking of the spiritual banquet" that's for sure!
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  Disfellowshipping for Gluttony?

  by Smoky in

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  is that possible?..have there been any cases like this?.

  my family have been on my case about me hanging around with people (non-jw family) that like to drink alot.

  they went as far as to call me "a drunk"...now i do admit that i have been gotten drunk before on occasion, but i am not a drunk or an alcoholic.. so, i told my mother (obese) that if i were "a drunk" for getting drunk from time to time (not every day), then can she be considered "a glutton", for eating to much, obese, having health problems, all because of the way she eats?

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  I think the waistlines of quite a few Elders is a main reason this subject isn't touched.... not to mention Elder's wives.
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  Dirty Little Tricks...

  by Justice-One in

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  dirty little tricks...that i might add help keep me sane.

  one of the things i like to do when my "true-believing" wife leaves her new "study aids" and stuff on the kitchen table, is to take a few of them and burn them in the stove.

  funny, she never seems to miss them.

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  Too funny! Sometimes it's therapy for the soul to have a naughty sense of humor about things.
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  You should not expect justice!!

  by Gill in

  1. watchtower
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  the watchtower org does not believe that 'justice and equality' should be pursued nowadays.

  justice and equality or only to be expected in a never neverland that will never come.. november 1st watchtower on page 14, shows how the borg uses ecclesiastes to teach it's slaves to accept oppression, poverty and injustice.. page 14 it discusses ecclesiastes 1:15 and explains it under:.

  lessons for us:.

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  1:15 It is futile to spend time and energy trying to correct the oppression and injustice that we see today. Only God's Kingdom can do away with wickedness. Daniel 2:44

  This is self-fulfilling. It reminds me of my struggle with my 5 year old to teach her to tie her own shoes. She gets exasperated easy and gives up before she even tries. We have conversations that go like this- "I've shown you over and over how to do it, now at least try, I'll help you if you need it" "But I can't" "You haven't even tried yet!" "But I CANT DO IT!"

  Efforts are only futile if you've convinced yourself its no good to try...

  Cultural activities, such as architecture, gardening, and music, as well as luxurious living are 'striving after wind' because they neither make life truly meaningful nor bring lasting happiness.

  This is absurdity in it's finest.... I can't think of a more spiritual activity than cultivating life and beauty from the soil. What do they think God created flowers for? I can remember a couple sweet widows and retired couples from the congregations I attended that had beautiful gardens so lovingly tended. I would think it would break their hearts to tell them something so dear to their hearts is all for nothing and a waste of time.
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  The Capable Wife....

  by LivingInReality in

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  right before i got disfellowshipped in 2002 i was sitting in the kingdom hall listening to an elder give a public needs talk.....and this one floored me.. so the brother starts talking about what it means to be a capable wife...of course all of the scriptures and regular bullshit we've heard over and over....but then he goes on to say...."so what i'm saying sisters is.... to save money to help with the household you can make a garden and get food from that to make your dinners.... you can learn how to sew so that you can make your own clothes instead of spending money to go and buy them at expensive department stores.... and you could look into your circumstances to see if its feasible for you to quit your jobs to stay home and run the household....blah blah blah.." i can't much remember the rest because my head had blown up to the size of jupiter with the hot steam i was about to let go in the middle of the talk.

  i decided it was better to get up and go... and i did.

  i only mention this now...because (now divorced from my ministerial servant husband of 10 years), i am a single mother that has worked her ass off not only in the secular world, but now as a mother raising two children, getting my college degree and maintaining every avenue of the household responsibilities on my own.

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  Rebel got it right.... this guy's a total dork who has NO IDEA what he's talking about. Nowadays it's not cost effective at all to make your own clothes and can your food. Clearance racks and coupons will take you a whole lot farther! That being said... I love to sew, and make clothes for my girls all the time, but just because its a hobby I love. And gardening is very time consuming... especially if you have to grow enough to feed your family for a year!

  Pretty much all of the rules and regulations surrounding women in the congregation are silly. It's all a bunch of overblown men trying to assert their authority over anyone they can. Especially if a woman is raised a JW, they can become an easy target. (this might not be true for everyone... but I know it took YEARS for me to get the idea out of my head that I had to submit to my husband's and other men's authority)
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  Whats Your Favorite JW Nickname?

  by love2Bworldly in

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  2. friends

  my favorite word i like to use is "bs society" instead of watchtower society.. what's yours?.

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  Effervescent

  I'm a big fan of the term "the borg", and also the reference to "witlesses"