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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-19-2012 WT Review (SERVICE)

  by blondie in

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  gods servants = only jws.

  with the people of god rather.

  dedicated servants of jehovah only jws.

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  bennyk

  The end of the present system of things is imminent.

  Don't buy green bananas!!!!!!!!

  (Thanks, Blondie.)
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  Crisis of Conscience, Apostacy and the Antichrist

  by konceptual99 in

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  2. beliefs

  i've just finished reading coc and it's truely a thought provoking book that's given me much to think about.. one thing that has struck me is the way rf was disfellowshipped and how he tried to reason with the elders on the jc.

  a key point of reasoning was that how the elders could define the disassocated one he ate with as "the antichrist" or one practicing the things described in 1 cor 9. apparently the elders either remain silent on the matter or said it was not for them to judge.. i thought the reasoning was really sound but i have been doing some checking on the definition of apostacy and the antichrist according to the society and it seems pretty clear to me that anyone guilt of apostacy becomes part of the antichrist.

  characteristics of apostacy as defined in the it-1 book are described as follows:.

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  bennyk

  Yet, when the shoe is on the other foot...

  The Watch Tower Society also other things to say about "antichrists". When defending the Organisation against the accusations of the Greek Orthodox Church the Watchtower stated: "What does the Bible say of 'antichrist'? At 1 John 2:22 it states: 'Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one that denies the Father and the Son.' Thus, the plain fact of God's inspired Word is that an antichrist does not accept Jesus. But Jehovah's Witnesses do! ... So anyone who says that Jehovah's Witnesses are 'antichrist' either is badly misinformed, is blinded by prejudice, or has evil motive." (Watchtower, 01. December 1986, pp.5-6)

  Clearly, the Watch Tower Society likes having it both ways...
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  Candace Conti v. Watchtower Society - Closing Argument by WTBTS Attorney

  by jwleaks in

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  2. child-abuse

  jane doe v. watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc.. .

  jury trial - june 14, 2012 - day 10. .

  mr. schnack: ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the judge has instructed you that it is your choice to award or not to award punitive damages.

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  bennyk

  The Jehovah's Witnesses Church is not the Catholic Church, that it has had verdict after verdict after verdict over the years. It's been in the press. We are all aware of it.

  Yes, you were very aware of it. You admit it. And your knowledge of it makes you more culpable, not less. You knew full well the implications of doing nothing whatsoever to protect the children from these predators. But you chose to do nothing.

  You disgust me.
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  Was There Ever A Poster Here That Realy Was a Watchtower Spy?

  by minimus in

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  since some believe that watctower regularly observes this site,did you ever know of a watchtower double agent here?.

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  bennyk

  Caspian.
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  Response to the notion that 'apostates like to pick at JHVH's organization'

  by sd-7 in

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  i was just thinking of something i read recently, a thread about the district convention talk, that mentioned how 'apostates' are always picking at 'the organization'.

  i just had a thought about that.. pick up any copy of the watchtower or awake!

  or any other publication the watchtower society publishes, and more than likely, in every single one of them, there will be several statements made against all other christian religions, all religions in general, or the scientific community so far as it conflicts with jehovah's witnesses' doctrines.

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  " The CatholicChurchoccupiesaverysignificantpositionintheworldandclaimstobethewayofsalvationforhundredsofmillionsofpeople.Anyorganizationthatassumesthatpositionshouldbewillingtosubmittoscrutinyandcriticism. " (Awake! 1984 8/22 p.28)

  "Any organization that assumes that position should be willing to submit to scrutiny and criticism."

  Except the Watch Tower Society, of course.

  Even when they invite you to do so:

  "Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a “prophet” of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record. What does it show?" ( w72 4/1 p. 197)
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  What do apostates really want?

  by Mr Facts in

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  2. experiences

  i'm just wondering what the whole apostate propaganda is all about?.

  do you think you can do some sort of justice to the wt for the pains they have caused you?, what actualy are your motives?.

  i dont get it.

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  bennyk

  so how do you think internet peddlers could affect any change in any manner?.

  By attrition. "Apostate" propaganda will prevent the Watch Tower Organisation from increasing in numbers and influence. (It is a great deal easier to keep people from becoming Witnesses than it is to help those already Witnesses to discover the truth about the Watch Tower Society.) Eventually, the Organisation will fade from the scene as their indoctrinated victims die without replacements.
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  "Blunders that led to World War"

  by Jeffro in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  on the watchtower.org site at the moment, they are featuring a link to an article that first appeared in the august 2009 awake!

  that purportedly talks about how world war i began.. in jw make-believe land, world war i began suddenly, and was essentially a big surprise.

  so it's interesting to note that the one of the most significant things that led to world war ithe first and second balkan warsare completely omitted from the article.

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  bennyk

  The Watch Tower Society is not known for its accuracy. Here is their claim:

  5 From Bible chronology, Jehovah’s witnesses as far back as 1877 pointed to the year 1914 as one of great significance. The Watchtower as of March 1880 said: “‘The Times of the Gentiles’ extend to 1914, and the heavenly kingdom [of God] will not have full sway till then.” While they were not yet clear on just what the details would be, in the nearly four decades preceding 1914 they sounded the warning that the future for this present system would not be one of peace, security and prosperity for mankind, but that in 1914 the world would come to the greatest time of trouble ever. In 1897 the book The Battle of Armageddon, (at first entitled “The Day of Vengeance”) published by Jehovah’s witnesses, said that this trouble would be “more general and widespread, and more destructive, as the machinery of modern warfare signally suggests. Instead of being confined to one nation or province, its sweep will be over the whole world, especially the civilized world, Christendom.”

  6 The momentous year of 1914 came, and with it World War I, the most widespread upheaval in history up to that time. It brought unprecedented slaughter, famine, pestilence and overthrow of governments. The world did not expect such horrible events as took place. But Jehovah’s witnesses did expect such things, and others acknowledged that they did. On August 30, 1914, the New York World said: “The terrific war outbreak in Europe has fulfilled an extraordinary prophecy. For a quarter of a century past, through preachers and through press, the ‘International Bible Students’ . . . have been proclaiming to the world that the Day of Wrath prophesied in the Bible would dawn in 1914.‘Look out for 1914!’ has been the cry of the . . . evangelists.”

  7 How could Jehovah’s witnesses have known so far in advance what world leaders themselves did not know? Only by God’s holy spirit making such prophetic truths known to them. True, some today claim that those events were not that hard to predict, since mankind has long known various troubles. But if those events were not hard to predict, then why were not all the politicians, religious leaders and economic experts doing so? Why were they telling the people the opposite? And why did they persecute Jehovah’s witnesses for telling things that were later seen to be the truth? ( The Watchtower 01. August1971 p.468 )

  Here is what the Society actually printed regarding 1914 in their publication The Time is at Hand (1889):

  How refreshing the prospect brought to view at the close of these seven times! Neither Israel nor the world of mankind represented by that people will longer be trodden down, oppressed and misruled by beastly Gentile powers. The Kingdom of God and his Christ will then be established in the earth, and Israel and all the world will be blessed under his rightful and righteous authority. […] True, it is expecting great things to claim, as we do, that within the coming twenty-six years all present governments will be overthrown and dissolved; but we are living in a special and peculiar time, the "Day of Jehovah," in which matters culminate quickly; and it is written, "A short work will the Lord make upon the earth." (See Vol. I, chap. xv.) In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished near the end of A.D. 1914. (p. 98f)

  The final extinction of this counterfeit hierarchy, near the close of the "Day of wrath" and judgment already begun--which will close, as shown by the "Times of the Gentiles,"with the year A.D. 1914. (p.356)
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  A JW in an email said I'm a Jezebel and much more. Well, this busy Jezebel needs your input. Thanks.

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  new message from website reader: silvio.

  their email address is: and their message is:.

  hello mrs anderson.

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  bennyk

  im saying that you had not been able to stay humbly in your place while Jehovah would fix the matter at the proper time .

  It is my honest belief that one of the most humbling events in the life of a former Witness is the discovery of what the Watch Tower Society really is.

  You and your husband should just be ashemed .

  And you undoubtably are ashamed -- for having ever been affiliated with the Watch Tower Society.
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  An email sent to me- we are reallly close to the end

  by Sour Grapes in

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  2. beliefs

  subject: short illustration regarding the "cowbird"hello, we recently dedicated our remodeled kingdom hall here in los angeles , and our guest speaker was bro.

  javier hernandez from brooklyn bethel.

  bro.

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  bennyk

  "The time is so short! It is not so much the years now, but we count the time by weeks and days... (Watch Tower, 15. Jan. 1912 [WT Reprints p. 4960])
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  Is the WTS and the JW's going to collapse in 2014?

  by braincleaned in

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  two years to go, and an embarrassing whole century will have gone by after 1914 -- the date of armageddon.

  in no world is that a "short period of time".... .

  let's put things in perspective, since the wts claims to be the channel god has choosen.

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  "Collapse"? No.

  "Not with a bang, but a whimper."

  And not in 2014. Very few would jettison everything so quickly. However, I would expect the rate of decline in numbers of affiliates in the West to accelerate, perhaps beginning 2016/2017.