Posts by BugParadise

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Application of "Two Witnesses" Principle

by RR in

transcript of video news release .

philip brumley, general counsel for jehovah's witnesses .

mr. brumley: while the assertion has been made that jehovah's witnesses take no action when an allegation of child abuse comes to the attention of the elders unless the accusation is verified by two separate witnesses, and that's just simply not true.

BugParadise

Hey RR144

Now what was it that guy on the phone with Bill Bowen said????

The expected! If he denies it .. let it go!

~Bugs

(the secret's in the Sauce-ee)

"Errors have been made ~ Others will be blamed."

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Dateline Comments by JW's

by Jang in

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for those who may feel discourage by comments by jws about the program ... don't despair ..... think back!.

how did you respond publicly when you saw negative information when you were in the borg?

how did you respond privately to yourself when you saw it .

BugParadise

DantheMan:

Yes, we were all under the spell of the WT propaganda machine at one time. Dubs are brainwashed to believe that only persons with bad motives criticize the org.

Take a look at number 15 and you will be even happier you are not of that mindset anymore.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=29032&site=3

~Bugs

"Errors have been made ~ Others will be blamed."

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Interesting JustJW Post

by Francois in

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the following is a post dealing with dateline and pedophilia in the borg.

i predict that the guy who wrote this post may show up here one day before too long.

get a load of this:.

BugParadise

Well the feedback from the AOL JW board isn't so bright.

BabieRain (an AOL JW)

The machinations of the Devil, how much better than to target the elders, they can effect a lot more of the congregations than I can. Not that some elders have not abused their positions and hurt people, but to look on the elder body as a whole for this vile epidemic is not fair. That is like when an African-American does something to you and the entire race is condemned for that one man. There are earnest brothers that do their best to see things
are done correctly and will be pleasing to Jehovah. I know my husband would die before he allowed a child to be hurt and then NOT LET IT BE TOLD!
The growth of Jehovah's Witnesses has been so rapid in the last few years that those coming in have not had time to strip off the old personality completely.
I'm hoping there will be none stumbled by all of this, but sadly I think some will leave. Just as they left Jesus and his teachings, John 6:52-66... "
(edited out the verses)
If they would stop and reason on things and take it to Jehovah in prayer they might see it more clearly. Man's actions do not negate the truths of the Bible.
Persecution has to have some reason...political or otherwise. So there is no reason to be shocked, we have been talking about these times forever, we are going to have to take our stand on Jehovah's side. What do we think that means? Jehovah says the sky is blue and the world says its red. It's not going to be that simple of a stand. Things are going to get worse.
Our brothers had a very hard time several years ago with political cards. They only cost 25 cents, however, they were issued by the government. Without one you could not buy food, so many, many of our brothers had to flee the country to be able to live with Christian neutrality. We will see very hard times before this is over.
We are going to appear to be in a helpless condition when gog attacks, that doesn't mean that people are going to just not like us, it means real persecution.
It will appear that Jehovah has forgotten us for the time, but then it will be like his eyeball being touched when he takes action for his people.
Jehovah left Jesus for that instant to let him prove his faithfulness as he took the sins of the world upon himself. That is why Christ cried out, My God, My God, why have you forsaken me...Matthew 27:46.
This is little compared to what is to come. I don't mean that the issue of child molestation is little...that is HUGE, I just mean that the first public thing against us in this way.
So, brothers and sisters, we need to be ready to make a defense to those who ask us about this and always remember to have compassion and empathy towards those that have had this horrible, evil crime committed against them.
We must make our choice now to walk away or stand firm and watch the salvation of Jehovah.
And for those that have suffered at the hands of evil men, I know in my heart Jehovah will heal them and take care of matters for them.
If this post offends anyone, that was not my intent. It was to be upbuilding and encouraging. We must endure to the end.
BabieRain

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Now ONELADYBAND an AOL JW and Moron responds

By all means, compassion.
Until after Armageddon, and mankind reaches further towards the perfection that will be, we are going to have problems, like this, and others.
Satan is having his heyday right now, too, and happy to have the opportunity to smear Jehovah's people in any way he can.
As with the Jewish system of things, before it's all over, Jehovah will clean out his house FIRST.
If there are really child molestors among Jehovah's people, they will not stay there, but will be brought out in the open and disfellowshipped.
But...that still does not mean that apostate-JW's involved in charges like this are not lying.
Mary

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And Another from ShebaRoyal an AOL JW Looney Toon

Subject: The Responsibility of Discipleship
Date: 5/30/02 4:04 AM Central Daylight Time
From: Shebaroyal
Message-id: < [email protected]>

I HAVE BEEN NEGLECTING MY POSTING FOR QUITE SOME TIME. NOW I MUST RETURN TO ENCOURAGE MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS THROUGH A TIME OF TRIAL AND BITTER PERSECUTION; BY THOSE UNWORTHY TO SPEAK THE NAME OF THE ONE TRUE GOD JEHOVAH. ADVERSITY IS NOTHING NEW TO OUR FLOCK, IT COMES WITH THE TERRITORY (NO PUN INTENDED LOL). STILL, THERE ARE THOSE WHO MIGHT SUCCUMB TO THE WEIGHT WORLDLY ONES TRY TO PLACE
UPON OUR SHOULDERS. I WOULD ASK ANYONE WHO MIGHT DECIDE TO LEAVE THE FELLOWSHIP OF HIS FELLOW SLAVES: WHERE ELSE WOULD YOU GO? WOULD YOU BACKSLIDE INTO THE DARKNESS THAT IS OUTSIDE? WHERE ELSE WOULD YOU GO THAT YOU MAY OPENLY SPEAK THE NAME OF THE ONE TRUE GOD AND NOT BE RIDICULED INTO SILENCE?

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and the final kicker ..

SirrusSky an AOL JW with no brain says this when asked why the Tower never spoke on Camera:

Sirus~>There's nothing for them to defend, The Organization hasn't done any wrong.

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TOTALLY NAUSEATING DENIAL! [>:(][>:(][>:(]

~~Bugs

"Errors have been made. Others will be blamed."

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Why Are People Here So Disrespectful At Times?

by Eutapro in

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friends

eu has noticed that a number of persons making up this forum are guilty of showing disrespect to jehovah's witnesses.

some refer to jws as 'hovahs and others talk about kingdumb hells, all the time professing to follow christ.. some may justify their rude behavior by saying that jws themselves can be rude.

even if the charge is true, and eu is not really convinced that it is, why cannot ex-jws rise above the fray?

BugParadise

Ajax:

Is Eu the same as non_trias_theos?
Of course Eu is non_trias_theos.

That is my first guess. He makes his rounds on several boards with the same hogwash and 3rd personality disorder.

~Bugs

"Errors have been made~Others will be blamed."

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KM Scan - Internet Use

by VioletAnai in

ok...like i said it's in the may 2002 km outline for may 20:.

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/21283b65/bc/share/km1.jpg?bcqskg9ak9nt6cke.

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/21283b65/bc/share/km2.jpg?bcqskg9ajchvrrkc.

BugParadise

Hi Graceabounds

I started reading thru the jw.match site ....lol
It was too funny.
I wondered if I wrote to the "Ask Esther" part of the site,
and asked Esther what my "wifely duties" would be....in detail,
ofcourse, if I was to find a "brother" that I was interested in
....if I could ever get back in that site.hehehehe!!!

LOL!! Been there, done that .. she couldn't find it in her Reasoning Book so she gave me a lousy T-shirt instead

~Bugs

To inquire about New Light Press 1

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KM Scan - Internet Use

by VioletAnai in

ok...like i said it's in the may 2002 km outline for may 20:.

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/21283b65/bc/share/km1.jpg?bcqskg9ak9nt6cke.

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/21283b65/bc/share/km2.jpg?bcqskg9ajchvrrkc.

BugParadise

Sam:

Nevertheless, I don’t think that sites like the one you pointed out are the ones that most concern the WT.

I agree .. I imagine they don't like Paltalk very much either

The complaint I figure they could have with this one is the money being spent should be in their pockets or perhaps they are thinking "Why didn't we think to start a dating service" ..lol

~Bugs

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KM Scan - Internet Use

by VioletAnai in

ok...like i said it's in the may 2002 km outline for may 20:.

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/21283b65/bc/share/km1.jpg?bcqskg9ak9nt6cke.

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/21283b65/bc/share/km2.jpg?bcqskg9ajchvrrkc.

BugParadise

Sam:

How many JW sites have you seen that offer to find you a spouse?

This one is a riot to browse through.

http://www.jwmatch.com

~Bugs

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They Persecuted Me

by non_trias_theos in

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jesus christ said these telling words.

and he supplemented them by also saying that his followers would be persecuted as he was persecuted.

jesus's disciples were persecuted in the first century by a bitter wave of roman persecution.

BugParadise

Non_Trias says:

People are lying about jws and exaggerating their flaws. And there are people in this place who show hatred of God by their actions. They blaspheme God's name and act immorally. But the persecution I is talking about relates to exaggerating flaws and lying about God's people.

"The more toxic the belief system becomes, the stronger the "us versus them" mentality of the organization becomes. The larger the system becomes, the more the addicts will have to protect. As the ministry grows, it will be subject to closer scrutiny, and some of it's toxic beliefs will be revealed as such by those who suspect the motives of the leader, the addicts who follow, and the entire organization. When these investigations into the ministry begin, religious addicts are manipulated into believing that they are being attacked by the enemy. The prudent course would be to admit the mission has gotten off track a bit, and confess the wrongs and bring it in line with biblical teachings. But religious addicts would never do that until every other option had been taken away by those who are perceived to be the enemy."

Toxic Faith--Overcoming and Understanding Religious Addiction, by Steve Arterburn and Jack Felton., p. 175.

~Bugs

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Is Blood Thicker Dan Water

by non_trias_theos in

some people in this place think that jws break up families.

they say that since jws df unrepentant baptized members and insist on jw family members restricting association with df members that jws try to break up families.

what do you think about this charge?.

BugParadise

StinkyPantz says:

I recall a post earlier where "Non" was correcting someone's use of the English language. Will someone please explain to me why he refers to himself by name instead of "I", and why his writing is like that of a 9 year old.

He posted in the third person all the time over on AOL (different name) and also used the same recycled garbage. We were pretty happy to see him pack up his toys and go home. By that time he had most everyone filtered that disagreed with him.

~Bugs

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Is Blood Thicker Dan Water

by non_trias_theos in

some people in this place think that jws break up families.

they say that since jws df unrepentant baptized members and insist on jw family members restricting association with df members that jws try to break up families.

what do you think about this charge?.

BugParadise

Non_trias says in third person:

Non got a thing for him alright. But non be too polite to talk such stuff in public.

<rolling eyes> same feces different board

~Bugs

"Have you blamed Christendom Today?"