my teenage cousin got dfd about a month ago.
it's tearing her mother apart.
i guess right after the announcement was read, one of the "friends" told her "it's kind of like a death in the family, isn't it.
I remember my boyfriend telling me (before I started studying) that his JW parents would rather him literally die than not be a Jehovah's Witness because then at least he would have the hope of being resurrected.
I thought that was so deluded. And yet I still studied Go figure.
its time to leave.
i have had all the answers i need to make a firm decision.
thank you so much everyone for your replies, for talking to me over the last few weeks and for some of the humour.. i believe the jws are right and that they have the truth.
AFIN
lisaBobeesa ... are you saying Christ Jesus is a "doormat and a Victim"?
ROFLMAO!!! I don't believe Jesus' name was mentioned in lisaBobeesa's post. Maybe I missed it. Anywho...
Jesus never agreed with those who tormented and killed him. He never gave into their way of thinking. It was certainly not God's organization unjustly punishing Jesus. It was not God's organization telling Jesus he needed to die. BIG DIFFERENCE.
Jesus sacrificed his life for us. He remained true to God and humbled himself to God. He never served nor submitted to any manmade organization.
Gotta love the way you twist words around though. That was truly creative AFIN.
There's no comparison.
its time to leave.
i have had all the answers i need to make a firm decision.
thank you so much everyone for your replies, for talking to me over the last few weeks and for some of the humour.. i believe the jws are right and that they have the truth.
Holly:
I wish you the best. I know that God will bless your efforts in trying to worship him in the best way you can. Don't ever stop searching for truth...
and then the end will come.. something like that!!.
so, for those who believe the bible, who are these people and what scripture would back that?.
holly
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in your words, what would be the unpardonable sin?
give examples.... .
Keeping to the topic title
What might I ask about your posting kept to the topic title?
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in your words, what would be the unpardonable sin?
give examples.... .
To me sinning against the "Holy Spirit" would be the same as rejecting God's existence and influence in your life. So long as you refuse to acknowledge his existence and you refuse to allow his influence in your life then you will not be allowed entrance into his heavenly kingdom. If you eventually do choose to believe in God and accept his influence in your life then you are no longer committing the unpardonable sin in a sense that you will be allowed to enter into his heavenly kingdom.
it is funny how some things stick in your mind .
this little point about a man supposedly swallowed by a whale, then rescued, stayed with me and i certainly used it in the "field ministry" in order to support the jonah account.
*** g70 5/22 p. 11 the great sea monsters ***.
I personally do believe in miracles and in what the Bible said about Jonah. But...
I don't know why the WTBTS thinks they need to prove biblical points by drumming up falsities, modifying scripture and taking things out of context. It's ridiculous how far they will go to prove a point instead of just letting the Bible speak for itself and simply allowing people to decide for themselves whether they believe it on it's own merit.
I mean if God created the heavens, the earth and all of mankind, etc. he could certainly have kept a guy alive in the belly of a whale. C'mon now. Why does the Society feel they need to come up with a real world experience to help the Bible out rather than just believing in what it says?
today i decided that people on this forum need some bragging rights.
(of course this is just a veiled disguise for me to claim some of my own bragging rights.
good things happen all the time to my friends on this site and we never hear about them.
dealing with an unexpected pregnancy alone, leaving my husband, supporting myself with no help from my husband before and after Devin was born
devinsmom: your success/survival sounds a lot like mine!
I too dealt with an unexpected pregnancy alone (husband left when I was 7 months pregnant) and I already had a 3 year old daughter at the time, I stayed on my own and supported myself without help from my son's dad (whew! $1000.00 a month in childcare, $800.00 a month in rent, $300.00 car payment and that was already more than the check I took home each month). I learned the art of creative financing and somehow made it through living on cheerios, pbjs, bean burritos and top ramen. I was disfellowshipped at the time and had pretty much no support group established so I decided to go to a therapist, get a new career and just be by myself. It was the best thing I ever did!
I am now happily married to a wonderful man who treats my 2 children like gold, I have a job that I enjoy, we are expecting a daughter in July and she is healthy and I just feel like I've come a long way.
My biggest accomplishments: Being a single mom, surviving natural childbirth (no drugs no nothing) and breastfeeding my children.
my husband and i started adoption proceedings over a year ago so he could adopt my 2 sons from my first marriage.
well today we finally had the court hearing and guess what.................the adoption went through!
my hubby is now the boy's father!
That's wonderful. It must have been a hard road. I am glad your son now has a father who will be involved in his life in more ways than just a check in the mail.
and then the end will come.. something like that!!.
so, for those who believe the bible, who are these people and what scripture would back that?.
holly
Since leaving the Watchtower organization, I have had many try and 'witness' to me in their own ways, and highlight the value of Jesus Christ - I think that constitutes preaching the real 'good news'.
Great minds think alike You basically in a nutshell said what I was trying to say earlier. Just couldn't seem to spit it out in one sentence.
