would someone who has the new od book explain any changes in "keeping the congregation clean"?
is it still the same policy or have they actually changed anything?
i'd especially like to know if they are changing their tune on the "inactive".
Ok.......think of this...........With the announcement and pronounced judgement the you are no longer a Jehovahs Witness......A DF person could not say......I am a JW but in a disfellowshipped state. they would be classified as no longer a JW. In all reality anyone could say they are a Jehovahs Witness. Anyone could chose to be a witness for Jehovah.
Oh well, maybe they just don't wnat the congregation to know if a person is out by choice or force.
would someone who has the new od book explain any changes in "keeping the congregation clean"?
is it still the same policy or have they actually changed anything?
i'd especially like to know if they are changing their tune on the "inactive".
Further..all the time i was d/f i never stopped witnessing about j....so how can they announce that they are no longer one of j..w.. the statement is slanderous
good point.........they cannot keep you from witnessing when you are DF. Also, in keeping with what disfellowshipping is about, to help the erring one to turn around. And disfellowshipping is supposed to be a form of discipline and Jehovah disciplines those that he loves. Think of all in the org that are hiding thier sins, at least one that is DF has thier errors in the open.
purps
let's face it, it seems like a simplification of the df process as many of you have already mentioned.. within the 6 million or so jw worldwide, there has to be a good number of ppl that are on the fringes of being dfed.
in the past, it took time to technically df these ppl because of the no-shows at judicial hearings and appeals.
also dfing a person can be delayed when no actual proof can be provided of the sin committed.
The only difference is in the phrasing of the announcement.
Then why was it necessary to change the wording ......thats the real issue! What's the signifigance of that???
let's face it, it seems like a simplification of the df process as many of you have already mentioned.. within the 6 million or so jw worldwide, there has to be a good number of ppl that are on the fringes of being dfed.
in the past, it took time to technically df these ppl because of the no-shows at judicial hearings and appeals.
also dfing a person can be delayed when no actual proof can be provided of the sin committed.
This may sound crazy, but ...........
If they DA or DF inactive ones..........it gives a boost to the ones that are going by the diehard rules. The mentality I am doing all the right things........and they aren't so out they go. It is a reward without giving a reward when there is no longer a reward to get!!!!
It keeps the ones that are going on a shorter leash. The fear is always hanging over ones head.
told you it would sound crazy
purps
i'm heading out in a moment to the meeting.
just wondering if anyone had a chance to actually flip through the pages yet?
funny how the wt study for today is basically a "never question jehovah or his organization" and we get a new organization book.
BAPTISNM QUESTIONS REVISED
I'm curious about this.
purps
during a dinner conversation with a loyal jw, he mentioned that the society seems to be making stronger statements to jw's.
he mentioned the "keep on the watch" brochure, and how it seemed to be for jw's as well as the public.
he acknowledged the "personal questions" the society were asking us, in the brochure - how pointed and direct they are, even asking you to rank your physical and spiritual activities on a scale of 1 to 10. .
Great post.......Very well thought out. Thanks
on sunday they released the new version of the om book.
( i'm not sure if they still call it the om book) but i got myself 3 copies.
i might sell one of them.
Was it the Greatest Man book?
i live in an apartment complex where one can pay extra for a garage, not a car port, but a full blown garage with an automatic garage door opener.
i love having this garage, but sometimes people come along and park their car in front of my garage door and block me from being able to leave or return to my garage.
some asshole in an suv did it again tonight and prevented me from being able to park my car in my garage.
I got a nasty little parking ticket last week. I did not block someones car in, but it was at a hospitol, no parking zone!!!
purps
yesterday i had a bad day.
i know what depression means now.
not so sad, not so mad.
Big Tex
Forgive me for being a stupid head.
with all the powers in me...........You are FORGIVEN! I thought it was funny and from now on I am gonna call depressing days "black ass days" Thanks, it sounds so much more exciting than just having a bad day!
Prophecor
haven't given you the officicial Hello, but I say to you now, Hello and welcome.
Thanks! I enjoy your posts very much.
purps
purps
as you've heard, the new book "organized to do jehovahs will" was released today.
here is an excerpt that i trust you will "appreciate", in regards to getting involved with the "world".. ' ..a christian might renounce his faith by his actions, such as by becoming part of a secular organization that has objectives contrary to the bible, and hence, is under judgement by jehovah god.
(isa, 2:4) if a person chooses to join those who are disapproved by god, a brief announcement is made to the congregation, stating: "[ name of person] is no longer one of jehovahs' witnesses.
lol SNG, Don't borrow trouble!!!!
