Posts by seek2find

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JESUS!

by Chalam in

in my relationships and dealing with jehovah's witnesses over the past few years i have come to learn one thing, the belief of who jesus is is the centre of the problem.

i was led to these verses after a couple of aging witnesses left my house after much debate, which once again proved fruitless :(.

1 peter 2 (new international version) .

I've been thinking about this very thing after reading the Watchtower study lesson for this last week from the December study edition article on Integrity. The article seemed to be focusing on what individuals can do to better their position with God. However puting ones faith in Christ was not mentioned. To me puting faith in Christ is the only thing that can put one right with God. I like the following pasage from Isa. 53:6 from the NIV Speaking propheticaly of Christ it says:

"We all, like sheep have gone astray, each one of us has returned to his own way, and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all."

Seek2find

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Here's a request for all the great PDF people here

by seek2find in

jw
friends

hi, there have been a lot of great pdf files posted on this board that i much apreaciate.

here is a request for another couple.

if they've been posted before please point me in the right direction.

seek2find

Black Sheep, The declaration seems to be continuing on past page 140 which is where the file ends. On page 138 it is continuing with the topic league of nations. If Ive missed something can you please point me to the last sentence? I'm confused. seek2find

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Here's a request for all the great PDF people here

by seek2find in

jw
friends

hi, there have been a lot of great pdf files posted on this board that i much apreaciate.

here is a request for another couple.

if they've been posted before please point me in the right direction.

seek2find

Atlantis, Thanks. I downloaded the Declaration, but it doesn't seem to be complete. It ends mid sentence under the subheading "Great truths" on page 140. Is there a complete one? Thanks, seek2find

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Here's a request for all the great PDF people here

by seek2find in

jw
friends

hi, there have been a lot of great pdf files posted on this board that i much apreaciate.

here is a request for another couple.

if they've been posted before please point me in the right direction.

seek2find

Hi, There have been a lot of great PDF files posted on this board that I much apreaciate. Here is a request for another couple. If they've been posted before please point me in the right direction. First is for the complete scan of the 1934 yearbook that contains the "Declaration of the facts" preferbly with no underlining or marking. I need the complete thing not just a partial like so many of the ones floating around the net. The second request is for scans of the original publications that are quoted out of context in the brochure "Should you beleive the trinity" (just the part that's misquoted) I know I'm asking for a lot. But I think a lot of people other than me would benefit also. Thanks in advance, seek2find

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Recent article on shunning?

by Shepherd Book in

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friends

in the past two months:.

-my father (a ministerial servant who continued to associate with me) called to see if i was df'd or da'd.

i told him i didn't "want to do the religion" two years ago, but suddenly he was concerned about my exact standing.

seek2find

steve2 Ray Franz talked about that article in one of his books and indicated that he wrote it. Later after he left Bethel and was disfellowshipped a series of more strongly worded articles was run in the Watchtower re-inforcing the hard rigid stand that was in place before. It's went downhill ever since. sad. seek2find

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How do you fight a monster?

by easyreader1970 in

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friends

the wbts frightens me.

it is as though they have no weaknesses.

one might say that this is assurance that it is the true organization of god.

seek2find

I personaly think God himself is the one that can and will bring it down. It's like the mighty Hindenburg that looks big and impressive. But also looked impressive as it went up in flames, although in a different way. It's coming, and something much bigger than Jonestown may be the results. Let us help all that we can before that day comes. seek2find

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Calling Christians who don't

by wobble in

this may be a non-starter as a thread,because of the way i feel.. if you are still a believer in jesus,you may have joined another religion or group,i do not feel inclined so to do,i feel that all organized religion has error in it,and is made by men for men.

also as i am trying to "fade" there are dangers,if i was seen attending.. however,i do feel the need for spiritual association,and especially i feel the desire to share in the lords supper and drink the wine and eat the bread.. any ideas on how to do that without going to a church etc ?.

crazy i know,but that is where i'm at ,right now.

seek2find

Hi, I don't know if it would apeal to you or not, but you might want check out "Christianity without the Religion" at www.ptm.org Greg Albregt the pastor, comes from a Legalistic Religion and preaches a lot on the subject. He has comminioun services ocasionaly. Just a sugestion, please disregard if you are not interested in his style. seek2find

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Recent article on shunning?

by Shepherd Book in

jw
friends

in the past two months:.

-my father (a ministerial servant who continued to associate with me) called to see if i was df'd or da'd.

i told him i didn't "want to do the religion" two years ago, but suddenly he was concerned about my exact standing.

seek2find

I was told once while I was still in that at one of the latest elder and servants schools that it was stated that a person could loose their position (elder or MS) simply by being in a social gathering along with a disfellowshipped or D-A'd person. It sounds like this may be the reason for the inquiry. Maybe someone has brought it to his attention. seek2find

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WT 15th April apostates / new light on miscarriages

by dozy in

study articles have strong counsel against apostates - modern day apostates display characteristics similar to those of the devil.

their mind may be poisoned by a critical attitude towards individuals in the congregations , christian elders or the governing body.

some apostates oppose the use of the divine name , jehovah.

seek2find

Could someone post a scan of this article. Please. Thanks, seek2find

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WT 15th April apostates / new light on miscarriages

by dozy in

study articles have strong counsel against apostates - modern day apostates display characteristics similar to those of the devil.

their mind may be poisoned by a critical attitude towards individuals in the congregations , christian elders or the governing body.

some apostates oppose the use of the divine name , jehovah.

seek2find

With regard to what the article says about the name Jehovah, I think Ray Franz made a good and valid point in his book In search of Christian Freedom when he said that in the organization today, it would be unheard of for an elder or other mature Witness to write a letter to a friend and not mention the name Jehovah mutiple times. But in the Greek Scriptures in the New World Translation there are seven apostalic letters that do not contain the divine name. (that's not to mention that the divine name doesn't even apear in the most reliable manuscripts for the entire new testament). So I guess if use of the name Jehovah is the sign that your not an apostate, then the Apostle Paul would have to classified as an apostate by the organization for his failure to use it in some of his letters such as the letter to the Phillipians. This is one of the best points I personaly got out of what I read in Rays second work. The lack of use of the divine name in the new testament, even in the New World Translation, is strong evidence to me that the Christian congregation was to put emphasis on the name of Jesus. Paul was NOT an apostate, and neither are those today who chose not to use the name Jehovah. seek2find