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  A question about Crisis of Conscience

  by seek2find in

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  the first time i read this book was an older copy in the mid 1990s.

  that copy was burnt by a family member and i no longer have it.

  in the newest version which i downloaded in pdf i'm having trouble finding a particular part.

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  Hi, I looked in the index but couldn't find any reference. The old copy that i read had several abedmums or updates (however it's spelled) in the back, and what I read may have been in one of these. But the jest of it was one of these Guys approached a governing body member after his calls to request an appointment had been ignored, and when he stated that he had called several times. The response was Yeah, i heard the tapes, and the visitor said what tapes? The point was made that Bethel had a practice of recording phone calls without the callers knowledge. seek2find
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  A question about Crisis of Conscience

  by seek2find in

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  the first time i read this book was an older copy in the mid 1990s.

  that copy was burnt by a family member and i no longer have it.

  in the newest version which i downloaded in pdf i'm having trouble finding a particular part.

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  Hi Blondie, Thanks for the suggestion. I just hate to bother him with, especially if I'm just overlooking it. I was hoping someone else remembered it and could tell me where to look, if I find it I will post the page reference Thanks again. seek2find
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  A question about Crisis of Conscience

  by seek2find in

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  2. friends

  the first time i read this book was an older copy in the mid 1990s.

  that copy was burnt by a family member and i no longer have it.

  in the newest version which i downloaded in pdf i'm having trouble finding a particular part.

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  The first time I read this book was an older copy in the mid 1990s. That copy was burnt by a family member and I no longer have it. In the newest version which I downloaded in PDF I'm having trouble finding a particular part. It was about 2 men that came over from someowhere in europe after ray was dismissed from bethel and wanted to talk to the governing body about the issue, and were rejected after some phone messages that were not returned one of them found out that their phone calls to Bethel had been recorded. Does anyone know where I can find this account. I must be overlooking it, or it must have been edited out of the newer version. Thanks in advance for your help. seek2find
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  How did you find JWD?

  by sweet pea in

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  prompted by the thread about jwd v wts i wondered how many of you found jwd via the internet or friends/partners?

  what were your first impressions?

  i found this site through besty (husband) once my faith had crumbled after reading www.jwfacts.com.

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  I came here upon the collapse of the old hourglass 2 outpost. That was when this board was new. It took a long while before I started posting. seek2find
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  Names have been changed. Why?

  by easyreader1970 in

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  the only time that the watchtower publication uses the real name of a person mentioned is when it's some biographical experience that is the entire article.

  anytime a witness is quoted in an article or other publication, they always include a footnote.

  "i studied medicine because i wanted to use my life to help people.

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  If memory serves me correctly, they got burned once on a story they did on Mickey Spilane where they used his name and then at a later time he fell away and was disfellowhipped and went on to write some material they weren't proud of. Latter he was re-instated and still professed to be a witness just not as strong as before. So after that for a long time they Just labeled personal experience articles as contributed, and then eventually they went back to using names sometimes and other times as you mentioned they used made up names. Another saga in the ever shifting world of JWs. seek2find
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  Hi everyone I am a newbie and I need help

  by philosopher in

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  i have been coming here for some months y i must admit that i am still in.

  but i have serious doubts, i mean, i am 99.9% convinced, the jws are not the true religion, but i still live with my family, and they are jws, and i love them.

  my parents have a long time been jws, and it is very hard for me to tell them the truth.

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  Hi and welcome, the bottom line answer to your question is, you cant do it. Real change has to come from the inside out. The emotions they feel for the organization are to strong. I speak from personal experience. Sorry. seek2find
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  Please Share your Experiences of Abusive Judicial Committee Meetings

  by flipper in

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  i had noticed on the board recently of several posters mentioning what they , or someone they know has gone through being brought before a jehovah's witness judicial committee - so i thought it would be good to share experiences so we all can get an idea of what has worked for some of you in dealing with it , and also methods to use when dealing with the elders , and it might open some lurkers eyes to the injustices suffered by many - which by the way usually isn't discussed in the rank and file witnesses .

  many of you know my experience - so i will be brief.

  long story short i was inactive for 3 and a half years , scripturally free to remarry , had not attended meetings for that long.

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  Welcome Candlelight, you have a PM. seek2find
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  My intruction on JWD. Hi!

  by easyreader1970 in

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  i posted this in my profile but since i've never formally introduced myself, i thought i would print it here as well as my official "hello" message.

  i am currently an active jw.

  i don't want to be but the situation i am in doesn't allow me to do anything differently.

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  Hi and Welcome! Well, here's another person that has been there. I was recently disfellowshipped after a 13 year struggle trying to decide what to do. What eventually got me was my refusal to acknowledge complete loyalty to the organization. So at 50 years old, and having spent all that time in the organization, I find myself on the outside. The family situation is rough and probably will be for some time. I'm trusting in God to help me readjust. I feel he's there for me and will see me through. Don't loose heart, others have been where you are. Don't give in. Stand for what you believe. I think you will be respected for it in the end. Read Crisis of Conscience, if you haven't done so already. Rays insight will help you see where the real problem lies. seek2find
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  Meeting schedule rearranged...WHY?

  by sir82 in

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  official speculation thread.... even if a reason is given for the meeting rearrangement when it is announced on 4/27, we all know how the society spins things (e.g., awake magazine being reduced to one issue per month to "put more emphasis on the bible" real reason.. .

  so why is the society doing this?

  on the surface, it seems to be a loosening of control.

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  Maybe with all the judicial problems and committee meetings, they are having trouble finding the time to handle the load of cases. Another free night would ease the problem some. There has been several disfellowshippings here recently. Your's truly (Me) being one. How many times in the past have we heard of how important the Book Study arrangement was? Now it's not? Why? If the lights getting brighter. Why is the bookstudy being eliminated, when it was held up so long as being a good arrangement? It will be interesting to see the response. I'm glad they threw me out, even tho I miss some of my old friends. seek2find
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  If only the PO can read the letter the Society doesn't trust the elders

  by truthseeker in

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  from all the reports here, it seems that only the presiding overseer can read the letter re: book study change - the elders aren't even allowed to know about it until at the earliest, a few minutes before the sunday meeting.. doesn't this demonstrate lack of trust in the boe by the faithful and discreet slave?.

  they must know about renegade elders posting here.. the presiding overseer is really just another elder who represents the boe..

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  Didn't I hear somewhere that the position of PO was soon going to be eliminated and then all elders were to be on an equal plane? Is that still in the works? maybe someone can post a link to the thread where it was discussed, if there is any interest. seek2find