i posed this question to my tbjw (true believer jehovah's witness) wife:.
"what if it was proved to you without a doubt (i conceded that this was not possible) that the gb had no special mandate or guidance from hs?
what if they were just like anyone else who reads the bible alot?
Re: "What would happen to a jw, if proved gb was not given special authority?"
This is intriguing.
It reminded me of the first book I studied "Let God Be True" (though every man be found a liar Romans 3:4)
I fear however that the question may rest on the choice of looking to men for hope rather than God. That is the prevalent view in the world today and its persistence will certainly cause many to 'miss out'. But not those who are faithful. That should answer the question.
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if it can be proved the gb of jw's is not a false prophet in 50 words or less i will grovel at their feet and beg them to let me back in.
Re: In 50 words or less prove the GB of JW's is NOT a False Prophet
Just love question begging topic titles and this is splendidly representative example.
Tantamount to "In 50 words or less prove that you mother is not a murderer"
but to address the topic "Wisdom is proved by it's children" said Jesus in response to his critics.
i never got a real answer about this when i was a jw.
the only explanation that i ever got was that jesus said to "do this in remembrance of me" meaning the taking in of the wine and unleavened bread.
he never said "not" to observe his birth or his resurrection.
Re: WHY Doesn't The WTS Observe The Resurrection?
If this is referring to the resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous which lies in the future during the millenium then nobody has 'observed' it yet. As far as I know, only Jehovah's Witnesses believe in it as actual and real but am open to correction (and there will certainly be no lack of that!) There are some church doctrines which present the resurrection as 'elitist' and even as part of a 'kangaroo court' scenario but Acts 24;15 belies those views.
Regarding others' comments on my own postings, I avoid these as this could create an unfriendly atmosphere and wouldn't that be against the 'spirit' of this forum?
isn't that sad that all those people who put their trust in god, and did good deads to help one another will all die because they couldn't figure out the "riddle" of the true religion.. i see my old parents go to church (catholic) every week, and they truly believe that they will be saved.
is there a religion that doesn't think that they won't be saved?.
if the witnesses are right, over 99.99% of beleivers will die at armageddon, and 100% of unbelievers will die at armageddon.
Re: 99.9% of people who believe in God will be destroyed by God
This topic title appears to be a contradiction in terms. Was it meant to read "'99% of those who PROFESS to believe in God............"?
and then the end will come.. something like that!!.
so, for those who believe the bible, who are these people and what scripture would back that?.
holly
Re: In the last days there will be a witness to all the inhabited earth........
Great Topic Title, the Truth will out !
would you have not taken a transfusion?
would you make sure that your child was deprived of one, too?
would you have turned in your own family member to the elders?..........just how far would you have gone in showing allegiance to the cult?
re How Far Would You Have Gone To Prove Your Loyalty To The Organization?
How far would you go to prove your loyalty to Jehovah? Isn't that the point? Really?
But it won't be if the 'organisation' is not the one I have inind.
personally i believe that 607 is not the right date, but here is another point of view.. does 607 or 587 or 609 or 586 or 1914 really matter?
yes but only after you have a pivotal date.
5 starting from the pivotal date.
erRe: 607? 587? What does it matter?
This topic title has to be applauded. I am sure it was not set as bait for the unwary or 'spiritual food' for the gormless.
Validation of the correct date is not inconsequential where there is respect fpr historical accuracy
If researchers avoid getting themselves into a tizzy, they should be able to sort it out
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in your words, what would be the unpardonable sin?
give examples.... .
Re: What Is The Unpardonable Sin?
A 14 year old girl wrote (to a newspaper) a heart-rending account of being taken from her family and put in a foster-home because a conversation with the health nurse led the latter to believe that the girl was being sexually abused at home. She writes: "The 2 and half months I have been away from my family have been awful. I have missed my birthday and Christmas was not the best. I cry myself to sleep every night because of the pain and anger I am going through. I have asked that woman from (the government agency) - if I can go home heaps of times, but she makes up some stupid excuse and they make my family sound like criminals, but they are not. Why will they not listen and take notice of what I want, say and need, and stop doing what they feel is right - but is wrong?"
Keeping to the topic title would it be fair to say it is unpardonable to persist in perpetuating lies? Easy to put ourselves into this category when fostering lies about others in order to pander to our own weaknesses and prejudices. (and in that you may find the answer to your topic question )
Perhaps in this forum there may be found at least one person who puts the Truth first. Not in a declamatory posting but in their own heart.
i've decided to da myself formally by writing a letter to my old cong.
i feel i need to leave my old life behind and forge a new one, which i don't feel i've been able to do since i left 3 years ago.
there has always been a hope in my family and jw's i was friends with that i would go back at some point.
Misquote, should have been "The world is full of beauty when the heart is full of love"
in it's own harsh way, bethel taught me some vital lessons about life.
work hard,.
play hard, drink hard and don't trust the goons in charge.. one of the scenarios that would replay itself over and over again concerned a subclass.
Re: What Bethel Taught Me About SuperRighteous People
One would have been more inclined to read beyond this title if it had read "What I came to Believe about a Righteous God and what I learned about Bethel " but these kinds of expressions don't win 'friends'.