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  Crisis of Conscience - The Movie

  by cedars in

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  2. beliefs

  i know... how cool would that be??!.

  having just commented on the post by trailerfitter about the situation with his wife, and how i have personally found the book crisis of conscience by ray franz to be the perfect antidote to the society's perception of itself as being god's earthly organisation, the thought occurred to me: what if there was a movie about ray franz and his life?

  obviously the society would be in uproar, and letters would be read out to all congregations all over the world not to go and see it, but just imagine!

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  jaffacake

  I,ve been away from JW discussion for some time. When did Ray Franz die? Sad news for me to hear
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  Does anyone remember Jaffacake (me) ?

  by jaffacake in

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  gosh!

  this site looks different, but still full of great posts from great people.

  i joined 6 years ago & met fantastic people when i was trying to learn about jws to stop my best friend being drawn into the watchtower thing.

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  jaffacake

  Gosh! This site looks different, but still full of great posts from great people.

  I joined 6 years ago & met fantastic people when I was trying to learn about JWs to stop my best friend being drawn into the Watchtower thing. I learned so much from you guys - thanks. I had to leave the site after a couple of years without making any progress with my friend. I had to stop my research and gave up trying to contact him. I needed to clear my head completely of everything, as it was just too painful and became an obsession, messing up my head and affecting my wife & kids.

  I've re-found this site tonight, and want to tell any old friends that there is a glimmer of hope after all these years. I want to tell those who knew me and my quest that I've suddenly had a couple of texts & emails from my JW friend and we're meeting up tomorrow. Very interesting. I though he considered me too dangerous...

  By the way, I look young on that photo, which must be 10 years old, I'll have to update it.
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  I caught a 'good standing' JW with another woman

  by jaffacake in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi old friends, .

  the reason i joined this group was to stop my lifelong friend getting baptised a jw.

  well, i failed when he was baptised 2 years ago.

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  jaffacake

  Hey Barry

  Great to hear from you too. Are you still an active SDA? Ah... fond memories from my youth!

  I remember being at the World Youth Conference (or something like that) in Edinburgh in the mid-seventies. Whatever happened to the Last Generation Choir? Do you know any of the folks from my past? My first pastor was Derek Marley...perhaps he was posted abroad?
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  I caught a 'good standing' JW with another woman

  by jaffacake in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi old friends, .

  the reason i joined this group was to stop my lifelong friend getting baptised a jw.

  well, i failed when he was baptised 2 years ago.

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  jaffacake

  Carla

  I meant to tell you that several months before his baptism (2 or 3 years ago) he admitted to his wife he wanted to leave her for another woman, someone abroad he had never met, except on the internet. His wife called the elders who read him the riot act. After a row, he did as he was told and allowed his mobile phone and PC to be confiscated, and six months later was baptised a JW.

  Hope you and yours are well!
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  I caught a 'good standing' JW with another woman

  by jaffacake in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi old friends, .

  the reason i joined this group was to stop my lifelong friend getting baptised a jw.

  well, i failed when he was baptised 2 years ago.

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  jaffacake

  Many thanks to my old friends (Carla, Greendawn, Dansk) and new ones for offering your thoughts.

  Don't get me wrong, if I'm judging him in this matter - he had affairs in the past and although I told him what I thought it never destroyed our friendship. Deep down I suspected his JW lifestyle was largely an act, and this may confirm it. He has had problems with work and financially all his life but the JWs finally gave him something to feel superior about, I think that was the main attraction.

  I won't tell my wife because she is (was) very close to his wife and kids and she would be upset for them. I'm glad I ran into these two work colleagues because next time I call by his home to say hello, I think he will find it much harder to talk down to me about how my Christian beliefs are so inferior to the ones he gets from his worldly organisation.

  I have missed you all. Its almost a year to the day since I last posted regularly but I intend to pop in from time to time to say hi.

  Love from the jaffacake.
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  Non-JW seeking help

  by mamaof3 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've got a jw meeting with me every week.

  she's been coming for 4 months.

  i don't want to give up on her.

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  jaffacake

  Hi

  I found some great literature to help me raise good points.

  http://www.freeminds.org/sales/menuframesjwc.htm

  Best wishes
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  Blazing car hits airport terminal as Gordon Browns New World Order begins

  by needproof in

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  2. friends

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6257194.stm .

  reports that a car has been driven into an airport terminal 'at speed'.

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  jaffacake

  Slim,

  Yeah, I'm glad you're okay. I was in Glasgow just yesterday and back there on Monday, I'll be on a train though so not at the airport.

  I'm off to watch the news!
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  I caught a 'good standing' JW with another woman

  by jaffacake in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi old friends, .

  the reason i joined this group was to stop my lifelong friend getting baptised a jw.

  well, i failed when he was baptised 2 years ago.

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  jaffacake

  Hi old friends,
  The reason I joined this group was to stop my lifelong friend getting baptised a JW. Well, I failed when he was baptised 2 years ago.
  He never returns my calls and we never see each other unless I call by his house to say an occasional 'hello'.
  Anyway I called into a pub on Thursday and there he was having lunch with a woman, not his wife. He promptly left her table and sat with me chatting. He came out with the cliches 'its not how it looks' and 'we're just good friends' and who am I to argue, except for his obvious embarassment. When he didn't go back to her table after 5 minutes she left saying she was going back to work. They are work colleagues.
  To me, it looked like he was back to his old ways, as he was never one to miss a chance of a sneaky date before he became a JW in recent years. I actually believe him when he says they're just good friends, in that I don't believe they've had sex, but the friendship did not look platonic to me.
  What would his elders make of his behaviour? Any thoughts?
  By the way he was on the booze whereas I was on orange juice as it was lunchtime and we were both going back to work.
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  Call the WT 718 560 5000

  by Vernon Williams in

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  2. friends

  hey guys,.

  call the watch tower and tell them you want to talk to someone about this or that and, then,.

  vent.

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  jaffacake

  Pleased to meet you Vernon. I've been away for many months. What was that about a Watchtower settlement & the legal dept??
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  Ray Franz is going back to meetings? WTF!!!

  by Crumpet in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay i am getting messages from gay exjw site message board that ray franz is back at meetings.

  i cannot imagine this has a fragment of truth... has anyone heard about this?

  can verify or otherwise?

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  jaffacake

  I'm sorry to hear that Ray had a stroke.

  btw...hi to all my old friends...I'm rarely on this board these days...trying to put the pain behind me and the board draws me back into anger and sadness...but I sure miss you all. Remember I was never a JW but they got my best friend and still have him. He's so miserable, I can see right through his act. Its the kids I feel for most, Take care all.