i think the hardest thing i ever went through was my divorce.
it was something i knew i needed to go through, and get over, but it was the hardest thing of my life.
i wanted the divorce, but it was so very painful.... what's the hardest thing you've ever gone through?
The hardest thing I have ever done started just over a year ago and continues - and that is to pretend.
To pretend to my wife that I was not still in the middle of a breakdown when she was diagnosed with cancer. She couldn't cope with both. And for us both to pretend to our close-knit families that all is well, not even allowing our parents, siblings or children to know all is not well.
It is the pretence that is hardest, not the illness. it helps to tell someone.
support the protest rally at :
parliment hill
ottawa, ontario, canada
All the very best with the rally, it will make a difference, even if that's not apparent at the time!
If there are ever any rallies in the UK I'm up for it...
i say it was j.r. rutherford and i sum up my reason in one word as follows;
greed
greed for power and money.
Orangefatcat
idolatory isn't allowed.Except that the idol is no longer one man - but THE FDS!
They know I can expose their disinformation and false doctrines, so they refuse to study/discuss with me any more.
When I caught the local PO off guard when he visited me at home, and using only the Watchtower, he had to admit they got no information from God. I thought this was a very promising breakthrough, but instead it just meant he would discontinue my Bible study.
I still like this guy a lot. After several weeks, he dropped some books off today that he promised me a couple of months ago.
the other night i watched as my wife did her usual pre-study for the study.
i became increasingly puzzled as a flurry of activity ensued.
the revelation book was hauled out along with the insight books and a few wt volumes.
How do JWs answer when folks point out Scriptures such as Jesus words in Luke 21:8 when Jesus spoke of men who would come saying:
“the time is very near now”
and he counselled “never follow men like that”
Is this one of the many Scriptures that are invisible to JWs and other Millennialists?
the other night i watched as my wife did her usual pre-study for the study.
i became increasingly puzzled as a flurry of activity ensued.
the revelation book was hauled out along with the insight books and a few wt volumes.
This reminds me of I book I bought but haven't read yet "Purpose Driven Life". It mentions how 40 (especially 40 days) is an important feature in the Bible. So it breaks the book into forty short chapters - so we read it in 40 days.
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if you do pray, will you use the name that's above all other names....says the watchtower.. if not, what name do you use?.
All these other manuscripts from the 1300's agree from the New World Translation: J1-14,16-18,20,22-24
Then why does the Kingdom Interlinear Translation not agree?
The Proclaimers book page 610 says "This is no ordinary interlinear: the integrity of the text is preserved....Thus the interlinear feature of this book is no translation at all."
The oldest NWT J-reference is J2 dated 1385, bot most are very much more modern.
The most common reference is J7 a Hebrew version published by Elias Hutter in 1599. The NWT footnote reference tells us that the basis for inserting Jehovah in a particular verse was based on this 1599 Hebrew translation of a Greek Manuscript. The Greek it was translated it from is dated between 301 and 400 CE and reads Kyrios (Lord). Therefore the Greek interlinear correctly uses the word Lord. The Kindom interlinear provides evidence of Kyerios being used in every ancient Greek manuscript, some from as early as 200CE.
All Scripture is inspired of God and is beneficial quotes Frederick Kenyon on page 319 "the interval between the dates of composition and the earliest extant evidence becomes so small as to be in fact negligible, and the last foundation for doubt that the scriptures have come down to us substantially as they were written has now been removed."
Yet supposition, Hebrew and Trinitarian versions are the sole support for making alterations and undermining the reliability of EVERY ancient Greek manuscript. Yet the NWT elevates these modern vesions, at least in these 237 instances, to the level of inspired scripture.
Rather than reading books on this, let is both check the references ourselves. The local PO dropped off the 2 documents I need today, Kingdom Interlinear and NWT Reference Edition. Here is a taster of what you can discover:
J18 Title Page reads as follows:
THE NEW TESTAMENT OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST
TRANSLATED OUT OF THE ORIGINAL GREEK: AND WITH THE FORMER TRANSLATIONS DILIGENTLY COMPARED AND REVISED, BY HIS MAJESTY'S SPECIAL COMMAND.
The Trinitarian Bible Society - 7 Bury Place, London, W.C.1
Do you really seek truth, or something to support the beliefs you already have?
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if you do pray, will you use the name that's above all other names....says the watchtower.. if not, what name do you use?.
Inquirer
Because it was removed.
If that is true, then we do not possess any inspired Christian Greek scripture. My source of inspired NT scripture is the 5,000 ancient Greek manuscripts, what are your sources? Are do you mean that the inspired scriptures were not preserved at all.
The only sources of Christian Greek scriptures that exist today, that include the Divine Name, are modern (14th to 20th century versions) Have you studied these versions? I think you would be shocked at what they contain. If, like me you are NOT a trinitarian, why would you rely on modern trinitarian sources as the canon, yet ignore manuscripts some dating back to within a few decades of the deaths of some of the authors?
I have taken delivery of the Kindom Greel Interlinear NT today and a 1984 reference NWT. I intend to research the sources of each and every one of the 237 J references in the NWT.
Tell me why does it say "Jah" at revelation 4 times! Why do we give him praise if he is not important still?
I believe it is important still. But not as important as the Name mentioned 1,000 times in the NT. Even the NWT contains the name of Jesus Christ about 1,000 times compared with 237 references to Jehovah.
Where does it say in the Bible "Oh don't use God's name in the NT?" ...I mean how is it unscriptural to use YHWH? It was written 1000's of times! You've got to be kidding!
No it doesn't, of course. My point is that it is unscriptural to accept ancient sources as inspired canon, except for 237 instances of one word. Then the inspired sources jump a thousand years or more to modern (inc trinitarian sources) for inspiration, but only for that one word. These sources are otherwise rejected as Satanic!? All I ask is consistency and integrity.
Now, I'll ask you this question. Have you read the book "The name of God Yehowah" by Gerard Gertoux? He talks about all these issues in this book!
No I haven't but I will try to get it and read it. In return, would you read "The Tetragrammaton and the Christian Greek Scriptures" by Lynn Lundquist (not the booklets on the website). It is available on Commentary Press. Where can I get the book you mentioned?
I think your reasoning is unscriptural. Call him "Jehovah" until 1 AD. ...Hmmm better call him Jesus now, sorry about that! Sounds obsurd to me!
Perhaps are basic starting points are quite far apart. You seem to want a continuous flow of doctrine from old to new testament. What about the revolution that was Christ and Christianity? Why did Christ never use the name Jehovah? Even in the NWT, why are there at least SEVEN whole books of the NT that NEVER even mention the Divine Name, not once, including one of Paul's very important letters?
The bit about better call him Jesus now...I agree would be absurd. Did you think I implied that? I do not believe in the trinity! I do not believe Jesus is the same person as Jahweh or Jehovah. My point was that Jesus, for some reason called him Father or God, and all other NT authors referred to the Jahweh as Lord or God. Just because it was wrong to remove the Divine Name from the OT, does not mean it is right to insert it into the NT without clear evidence that it was ever there. Two wrongs don't make a right.
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a few weeks ago someone posted a watchtower or awake!
article about some people who where shunned by their church after they started studying with jws.. does anyone know the link to that post?.
Matthew 7:3-5
“Why do you observe the splinter in your brother’s eye and never notice the plank in your own? How dare you say to your brother, let me take the splinter out of your eye, when all the time there is a plank in your own? Hypocrite! Take the plank out of your own eye first, and then you will see clearly enough to take the splinter out of your brother’s eye.”
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if you are celebrating christmas do not x christ out of it.. if you are celebrating christmas do you know why???.
hibiscusfire
I read all your posts and I did respond to you.
Hib, With respect, you have not responded to my comments, all I can find is this:
When you calm down, I would welcome feedback on my recent post please - you are very good at responding to as many posts as you can. ok I'll calm down because I'll be back for you!!!!
a promise of a resonse, is not a response.
I'm still waiting, but don't worry, I'm used to no response to my points - I talk to JWs now and then - when they are wrong, which is mostly, they dont respond. Sometimes they are right about a point, and they come back and answer me, and I have to change my opinion.
