Well, wife of friend of mine is studying with JWs but isn?t attending meetings regularly. She got pregnant and when the time to deliver the baby came doctors discovered she had some serious condition that may require blood transfusion, and needed to rest for the reminder of pregnancy. Being a almost a JW she wanted to abide by regulation. The funny thing was elders demanded her to come to the meeting to sign those blood papers. Of course husband didn?t let her go ?cause she could start bleeding any moment. And those bastards refused to come to her, in fact no one even checked on her for about 2 weeks after baby was delivered.
Afterward, some of them made comments that it was her husband who was endangering her life by not letting her go to the meeting. He took them by the shoulders and kicked then out of the house.
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The Most Unkind Cut From An Elder/ MS..
by Englishman in.
this was mine:.
"you're a brand rescued from the burning..in israel you would have been stoned to death..get down on your hands and knees, get your head hard down on the carpet and beg jehovah for forgiveness".. they don't tell you about that sort of thing when you first have a bible study.. englishman.. .
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Xtra-terrestrials...what are your thoughts?
by Bas in.
well i don't believe in ufo's and abductions and that sort of thing but i do believe more that there must be extraterrestrial intelligence than i believe in the existance of a god.. i used to visit this site to read about the thoughts of serious scientists on the subject, it's the us-government sponsored project of seti:.
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Science: Bible's Red Sea Miracle Is Real?
by aniron in.
science: bible's red sea miracle is real?
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Just because we are unhappy with WT doesn?t mean whole bible is a myth, WT is just one of the sects, and bible on the other hand is an ancient book that has a lot to tell regardless of ones beliefs.
And for those of you interested there is an Egyptian document that does mention exactly the sorts of plagues that bible describes in Exodus. It was featured on Discovery channel not long ago. For uninformed Discovery channel would never air anything religious. Though they tried to explain it in scientific terms the point is they also did admit that something happened.
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What is the WORST TEACHING of Jehovah's Witness religion?
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i have my ideas, but i am very interested to know yours.
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An Elder Told Me.... Many To Be Disfellowshipped Soon...
by Doubtfully Yours inan elder told me the book is jehovah's latest provision to cleanse his organization.. he said soon all people that have drifted, inactives, and others baptized and not complying with the biblical mandates for a jw, will be visited and given an option to shape up or ship out.. he said that if the person refuses the help offered by the congregation they'll be notified of the date of disfellowshipping and given time to appeal the decision.. he was so happy stating that this way jehovah's organization was preparing for the final clean-up before armageddon.
he sounded so convincing that it almost made perfect sense what he was saying.
i got goose bumps listening to his reasoning.. dy
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OK I went to a friend of mine still attending meetings and got a copy. Someone enlighten me, where was it that ones not attending meetings are going to be booted???
I?m reading the section on DF rules but I don?t see it. Please help me out here. :-)
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Modalism vs. Trinitarianism (which one stands better against JW doctrine?)
by Ianone inmodalistic monarchianism, also known as modalism, is the view that god variously manifested himself as the father (primarily in the old testament), other times as the son (primarily from jesus?
conception to his ascension), and other times as the holy spirit (primarily after jesus?
ascension into heaven).
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I think this is the issue of misunderstood semantic which is often out of realm of knowledge for most people not familiar with either Greek or Hebrew. Unfortunately, these are precisely the ones having heated debate about trinity, no offence intended. However, your best clue is in the book of Genesis 1:26 where God is quoted as saying
?Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness?
Got it yet?
If the man was created in God?s image then it would imply that man also has a form of trinity within himself, or replica thereof if you wish, which is a powerful statement against any Trinitarian nature of god. Who among you has two, three or more personalities i.e. two, three or more living and distinct consciousnesses or beings as part of your makeup???
In fact, today we consider it as disease if someone claims to have multiple personalities within himself and we call it MULTIPLE PERSONALITY DISORDER
IF IN DOUBT CHECK THIS OUT
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UN/Watchtower/Who/
by Voyager inaccording to my little cousin who was (never) one of jehovah's witnesses, i have been doing my (research) wrong.
he told me that if i wanted to find out information about the watchtower and the united nations, then i would need to start typing in (numbers) instead of letters and words into my search engines.
here is what he told me!-----see below:.
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Ok, I?ll probably make many enemies by saying this, so please take this as my professional deformation.
I like to see irrefutable and concrete evidence about subject at hand and one thing that I do hate is shadowy research. WT org has been guilty of such a poor scholarship in many instances, but right now I see some of you making the same judgment mistake. Just because they?ve used UN plane doesn?t mean a thing, so what if they used a plane??? So did many other organizations but that didn?t make them a part of UN. In such situation UN is know to assist any orgs whose cause is humanitarian aid.
You?ve gotta be careful with your research. By all means share information but I?d advise be careful how you interpret what you see. Any shadowy research presented here may also be used by other side as evidence that we don?t know what we are talking about when we are talking about other things such as WT and NGO membership or alike.
Peace, bros
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An Elder Told Me.... Many To Be Disfellowshipped Soon...
by Doubtfully Yours inan elder told me the book is jehovah's latest provision to cleanse his organization.. he said soon all people that have drifted, inactives, and others baptized and not complying with the biblical mandates for a jw, will be visited and given an option to shape up or ship out.. he said that if the person refuses the help offered by the congregation they'll be notified of the date of disfellowshipping and given time to appeal the decision.. he was so happy stating that this way jehovah's organization was preparing for the final clean-up before armageddon.
he sounded so convincing that it almost made perfect sense what he was saying.
i got goose bumps listening to his reasoning.. dy
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Hell that means I?ll soon become fully-fledged member of this forum, lol
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Will married partners reunite at resurrection? And what does that imply.
by cyborgVision inhi everybody, since this is my first post i hope everyone is going to be kind to me :) .
one thing that kind of bothers me, and i?ve seen it bothering many honest jws (yes there are such ones) is whether they should remarry after their mate dies.
it is the issue that, in my experience, many do not even dare to confront, at least from older generation.
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Thanx Golf, Hope I'll be a Jedi Master one of these days too ;)
I love these cute labels this forum assignsWhich is also a good point for discussion one of these days i.e. if Star Wars makes greater positive impact on individuals than WT org.
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Will married partners reunite at resurrection? And what does that imply.
by cyborgVision inhi everybody, since this is my first post i hope everyone is going to be kind to me :)
one thing that kind of bothers me, and i?ve seen it bothering many honest jws (yes there are such ones) is whether they should remarry after their mate dies.
it is the issue that, in my experience, many do not even dare to confront, at least from older generation.
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Thank you for your thoughts and kind words purplesofa I posted this question twice by mistake (being a newbie) the thread that had most responses on this topic is its clone and you can find it at Second Thread
I'm sorry for the confusion, my mistake entirely.