How about the brochure on how to dress when visiting headquarters so we don't have to try to figure it out on our own?
Cate
in words it is one thing.
in practice it is quite different.. so in what ways has the wts made the load "lighter"?.
well the new book study arrangement is the newest one but there have been so many more.
How about the brochure on how to dress when visiting headquarters so we don't have to try to figure it out on our own?
Cate
so tonight the congregation discussed the front page of the october km -the new meeting schedule.
straight away it was emphasized it was not because of high gas prices that the meetings were being reduced.
it was pointed out that in parts of the world the brothers do not have cars so it was not high gas prices.
so...does anyone say, "If it's not the real reason...why did they say it?"
Cate
there were some witnesses that loved taking notes for every meeting.
whatever you would say, the note takers were busy as a bee writing down every word.
especially if you went out of town to give a talk, certain ones (only sisters) would take their note taking very very seriously.. another thing that used to get to me was when you'd see the same people every assembly on the platform giving a talk or being in a part.
The opening talk at the convention that told us what we were GOING to hear. The final talk that told us what we HAD heard. And the concluding prayer that summed it all up again in case God hadn't been paying attention.
Cate
comments you will not hear at the 10-12-08 wt study - august 15, 2008, pages 7-11 (maintain loyalty).
review comments will be in red.
wt material from today's wt will be in black.
Billy that was excellent. I love a well-written rant! And the aluminum foil hat made me laugh out loud.
This article is very like the drama at the last district assembly I attended. It ended and my husband and I looked at each other and said, "What?" Our reaction was the same as yours: Perhaps the message is "never trust an old prophet!" Ha!
Cate
for me, i had doubts from the beginning.
however, my 1st major doubt came as i had it confirmed that other people felt like i did about certain big issues within the org.
there were many, i realised, that just knew things were not right.
In and Out, Back and Forth....first baptized at age 9 in 1956. Was the "perfect" example other parents wanted their children to be. Played piano at KH (before recorded music) at age 10 -- all meetings, funerals and weddings. "Great Legacy" started by Grandmother who was present at Cedar Point, swept by the tide, friends, activities, Mother was Book Study Conductor in our home (yes!!! hard to believe - not enough brothers) wore a hat in our living room while she conducted the BS. Dad never in truth. Years of being active and inactive as adult. Disfellowshipped, then reinstated. Doubts started a few years back. Can't talk to anyone else about these doubts. This is a great forum for serious and meaningful discussion. Life changing experiences have brought me to this point. Grandson's "story" published in Awake! magazine. Wow, can't believe I am posting this.
Gram: I'll bet your story is fascinating. Can you post it?
Respectfully, Cate
for me it was that god is killing billions of people just to prove a point.
what about you?
Another less emotional one is: Accepting blood fractions but not contributing to the blood supply.
And...Wouldn't accepting blood fractions be encouraging someone else to break God's law (in order to supply the blood that will be divided)?
Cate
for me it was that god is killing billions of people just to prove a point.
what about you?
Birthdays: Especially after the Awake article on allowing Pinatas at parties.
Blood: Once they started allowing all the fractions.
Cross vs Stake: Once I realized it may well have been a cross.
This Generation: I had explained for 30 years that this generation who would not pass away meant those born in 1914 (after being changed from those old enough to understand). We could absolutely prove it! Then in 1995, I had to absolutely prove something completely different. Which I couldn't
Cate
the truth that leads to eternal life says on page 13:.
we need to examine, not only what we personally believe, but also what is taught by any religious organization with whichwe may be associated.
are its teachings in full harmony with god's word, or are they based on the traditions of men?
In the Witness world we are taught that any legitimate concerns we have will be dealt with in God's due time. As for all the other concerns, we are taught that, if we doubt, we must be spiritually weak. The answer is: more meetings, more field service, more personal study (but only of the organization's publications). And because we are also taught that to critisize the organization or it's teachings is apostacy, we keep quiet about our doubts. We file them away in our minds, in a locked drawer (perhaps behind a door marked "Beware of the Leopard.")
And so we feel very isolated. Very alone with this sick feeling in our stomachs that all is not well.
For myself, I finally clicked on a link to this website and discovered that I wasn't alone. It made me feel better and worse at the same time. Better, because my doubts (which I had revealed to my family) had been explained away as being the result of my being depressed (read "crazy"), and now I could see that a lot of other people felt the same way. And worse, because my worst fears were realized.
Cate
william shakespeare ( baptised 26 april 1564 23 april 1616 ) was an english poet and playwright , widely regarded as the greatest writer in the english language and the world's pre-eminent dramatist.
he is often called england's national poet and the " bard of avon " (or simply "the bard").. what is your favorite work and quotations therefrom...?.
cc.
Coco:
Have you ever seen Ian McKellen's "Acting Shakespeare?" I recommend it.
Cate
i remember studying this article in the year 2000, and i think that this was the 1st time that i found something hard to swallow in the wts teachings... it just seemed like circular reasoning to me.
did anyone have the same feeling when they studied this article?
let's see if we can debunk these myths.... .
Lance: Would you please give more details regarding #1? I've never seen anything in print from the organization that indicates anything other than that this scripture applies in our day. What did they say at Gilead?
Thanks, Cate