one thing that orangefatcat loves is to party, the last apostofest i went to in toronto was in may of 2002. i can't be wrong there must be someone who could host an apostofest.
truly i would have one in my home, however i live in a postage stamp apartment.
however in the next several months we should be hearing about our move to a larger apartment , but at this point i am not holding my breathe.
Yeah....
Why should they have all the fun? (I'd like to be able to hit Las Vegas this fall, but not "doable" for me this year so something local would be great!)
I have the same space problems you do but there's gotta be a decent pub/restaurant we could find to serve as a site. I'd prefer a downtown site myself (someplace like the Crocodile Rock in the financial district, etc...). As long as they have air conditioning!
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its the last episode of this series on saturday.
i think the new version is great.
shame christopher ecclestone is quitting- he's a great actor.
Dang. I haven't seen any of the new series but I loved the old shows I caught on PBS years ago.
Exterminate! Exterminate!
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the whitewashed history of the watchtower society in nazi germany.. the man who became leader of the german branch of the watchtower society after the war is without exception portrayed as a beacon of virtue and faith, standing fearless against the nazis:.
*** w89 5/1 12 jehovah has sustained me as a friend ***.
many of the loyal ones, among them erich frost and konrad franke, who suffered much for the lords sake and later became branch overseers in germany, returned alive from the fiery furnace of persecution.. .
Obliged Norm!
I wonder how much of this was "common" knowledge in Germany?
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http://www.dailystar.com/dailystar/metro/80177.php
notice what it says about most members being under the age of 25. also, it refers the conventions as being family events.
Thanks for the link Netty.
I guess Stephanie gets all the "fluffy" assignments?
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when i was growing up in dubland, i always felt like i never "fit" in with the other kids in the cong or their families.
i always knew deep down that i didn't like being a jw and their had to be more to life than meetings and field service.
i just wanted to be normal, like the other kids and have sleepovers, birthday parties, after school activities and christmas etc..... my folks were and still are devout dubs and my dad in particular is the nicest man you will ever meet, he would give you the shirt off his back if you needed it, no questions asked.
Not really.
My parents were adamant about us (me and my sibs) "toeing the line" with no exceptions. As most of you can appreciate, that meant none of the other kids in the hall were acceptable once we hit adolescence (with most kids trying out the normal, stupid things kids do at this stage). They investigated every incident when other JW parents were content with the "don't ask...don't tell" policy so none of us had any friends in the org. while growing up. Everytime I went out with the PO's son (who wasn't that bad a kid), I got into "trouble".
High School was worse even though I was on relatively good terms with the jocks, the nerds and the druggies, I wasn't part of anything trying to toe that line, floating along being as invisible as I could be. This isolation lasted until I got my first real job iin banking (after leaving home) which opened my eyes to how "abnormal" my upbringing and my socialization was.
Today, I still have to work at being a "friend" and feeling a part of my community (voting, giving to charity, interacting with my neighbors, being a "real" friend, etc...). But, better late than never!
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now that i'm totally free of the wt & it's indoctrination, standing alone not sure of my purpose in life, not sure where to turn to.
i still believe in god but find myself on the verge/or perhaps already questioning him.
this is quite a sensitve topic & not sure it suitable, but i just need it out there.
LouBelle,
The only Gods are us (and the only Devils too!). Human civilization is our greatest "group" accomplishment but we've got a long way to go. I was surprised when I watched a documentary on the conduct of Belgian colonialists in the Congo and the millions of deaths and human misery they caused in their "milking" of the rubber industry cash cow.
I strive for balance when pondering the horrible acts committed by humans with some of the progres we've made. It is no longer acceptable to "own" another human being in officially sanctioned slavery (took us a few thousand years!). We do have an international standards of human rights (even if not enforced everywhere yet).
While we still resort to war in many dubious circumstances it's no longer seen as a perfectly desirable, normal way of dealing with our neighbors if they annoy us or are just too successful for our own comfort. I hope that one day in the future we'll develope an economic system that recognizes the value of every human as an integral part of the human collective global society. But this is probably a couple of centuries away (if we make it that long).
As a hopeful agnostic with a Humanist outlook (though I have more violent leanings than typically associated with this movement) I think there is hope for the human race to "make it" on our own.
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i had to come home early from work today because a 17 year old girl came over to me and was all upset she asked if she could come up and visit with my wife and i. she said the brothers are always picking on her and she can not do anything right.
i asked,what have you done she said nothing every time it is some one making things up and she is tired of even trying any longer.
teenagers come from over all the area they they know they can come and talk to us and we will not judge them.
Avi,
You're right on the money. Anytime an Elder's kid was brought before a JC, it was a different set of standards and rules for them (their buddies on the committee knew they might be in the "hot seat" one day so one back scratched the other). It was a beef among parental publisher friends of my parents though they were very careful about "griping".
Somebody always had to "go down" but it rarely one of their kids. I've posted elsewhere about how my old man was so fed up about this sort of thing that he kicked up a royal stink all the way to the DO level when the local PO tried to sweep some dirty laundry under the carpet!
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i had to come home early from work today because a 17 year old girl came over to me and was all upset she asked if she could come up and visit with my wife and i. she said the brothers are always picking on her and she can not do anything right.
i asked,what have you done she said nothing every time it is some one making things up and she is tired of even trying any longer.
teenagers come from over all the area they they know they can come and talk to us and we will not judge them.
Skyman,
Kudos to you and your wife. It seems to me that anybody who really tried to be of constructive help to these kids only got grief for it as I remember.
It's not hard for JW teens, it's impossible. (One of the things that made me leave)
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to all my friends or anyone who would like to support me, god knows i can use as many as possible, my dads criminal gardiner trial begins june 27 and 28 in orangeville ontario at the court house.. send lots of good energy my way............this will be the end of a very long journey.. vic
Best wishes!
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do you ever find that you think you've gotten accustomed to the shunning, and then some small, stupid thing comes along to reopen the wound?
that's how i feel right now.
it's been a while since i've really thought about it; the limited contact has simply become routine to me.
Sorry to hear that Euph.
I've dodged this sort of experience so far though that may change in the near future. My folks have been warned that what they do to one of us (my sibs), they'll have to do to all of us.
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