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  Dave Allen has died :(

  by Angharad in

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  so sad, he was one of my all time favourite comedians .

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4340115.stm

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  Whiskeyjack

  Ditto,

  I loved watching his show over here as a kid (sometimes I could even get my dad to watch until Dave stepped over the line!).

  Our Loss.....

  W.
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  Men suck.. (no offense to any guys here)

  by Dirt Rocker in

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  i can't believe how many guys that have told me "oh i really really like you" or "i would never hurt you" <---- (my personal favorite) or just any other bull hooey that they just telll you to try to see how far they can get with you or whatever they want from you.

  i'm not even 18 yet and i'm already sick of it!

  ugh!!!

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  Whiskeyjack

  Hi Dirt Rocker,

  Liberty is right. You have to be willing to do a little more hunting yourself for the right kind of "game". I worked in the financial industry for years surrounded by women of all ages and types so I've had plenty exposure to the female point of view. You are genetically programmed to go after two types of men (not boys). The agressive bad dude with all the necessary genetic codes and the kind, nurturing dope who'll actually help you bring up those offspring.

  I've known legions of "nice guys" who were left in the dust by dumb females going after the former "biker/rebel" type. My old man drilled me and my brothers into gentleman and I still can't lie to get laid (more's the pity!)! Our western societies are not producing "men" like they did a couple of generations ago and we do jave a plethora of twenty and thirty something boys unfortunately but decent guiys are all around you (but ya gotta look and reach out a little)

  Sooooo...I don't feel very much sympathy for you male bashin' ladies out there.
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  JW Lifestyle

  by XBEHERE in

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  jesus says in matthew 11:28-30 "come to me, all you who are toiling and loaded down, and i will refresh you.

  29 take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for i am mild-tempered and lowly in heart, and you will find refreshment for your souls.

  30 for my yoke is kindly and my load is light.?

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  Whiskeyjack

  I agree.

  As kids, you could never really "measure up" to young Jesus' example (and I was a goody two shoes) and you could never just be like all the other kids at school (even double-lifers). The self-esteem issues are horrid especially during adolesence (all teenagers are a little crazy IMO).

  My father was an MS and got constant condescending (?) apoloqies from our cong.'s elders that they "couldn't make him an elder unless he could get more service hours (even though the hours he did put in were of the highest quality I've ever observed, including CO's) . The poor guy had a low paying job (putting Kingdom first) and five kids and was always trying to help other poor relatives and other low status members of our cong. with real help.It was a real slap in the face.

  He wasn't into the elder status/power trip as an emotionally sensitive man (who could not stand bullshit) and he was often a burr under their saddles when they tried to make their own lives easier (you the type of thing -you ignore my kids sins and I'll ignore your kid's). They were a little leary of having him in the club.

  Things eventually came to a head and he had to move away to keep his sanity. An increadibly pious man (even jesus would have thought a bit of a stickler), he and our mom did their training work a little too well (hence we all left).

  I feel maybe 10% of JW's (and I'm being generous) follow the official lifestyle day in day out.

  Comments?
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  What if "the end" happens in 2150?

  by JustTickledPink in

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  just a question.... what if the wts came out with a for sure prediction based on new light that without a doubt armeggedon will be here in 2150?

  well, that means that our generation will all die, but we can hope for a resurrection and we have to continue to preach and our grandchildren or great-grandchildren might actually be the ones to walk through the "end" into their "new system"

  the question is how many jw's would there be?

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  Whiskeyjack

  What would probably happen is the conventionalization (a new word?) of the religion to a more user frindly org. (the only ones that can survive in Western Society at least. The org. was really agressive and confrontational in earlier decades (placards, cars with loudspeakers, etc...) compared with today's kinder, gentler version when dealing with outsiders.

  Voluntary service, more holidays, less career restraints, etc...

  I don't think an apocalyptic religion can survive without its apocalypse! This conventionalisation process will continue unitl JW's are more like your average American bible belt morons.There will always be people who'd rather be told what to do than think for themselves -Hey- that's what religions are for anyway!
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  I promise to stop after this one, one more rant...

  by wanderlustguy in

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  is not talking about the planet or why we are alive, but why are you reading this?

  why have you sought out this place?

  only you know those answers, and i definitely don?t know anything about anyone, but here is the answer for me.

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  Whiskeyjack

  Wander,

  There is definitely a we....

  We are a very, very unique community (even if we rely on electronices and phone lines) just like grizzled old combat veterans who can't talk about their experiences but to a peer. Very few people can comprehend our collective experiences (my own pales in comparison to yours of course).

  Just as Mr. Ellis wrote (from the movie Nostradomus Kid), "I looked out at a world I still couldn't feel a part of" - this was years after he left the Seventh Day Adventists. I still mourn the loss of my life mission to help change the world for God and that lack of a sense of purpose creates a fair amount of depression for me at times (my personality type identifies with causes, fights, etc...).
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  ok, door to door question.......

  by freedom96 in

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  i am always teasing my wife about having a "country club" upbringing as a witness.. in the hall i grew up in, and those i attended for a few years after turning 18, were pretty hard core.

  i tease her about how easy she had it.

  which, in my mind was clearly the case, but that is another story.. this case involves going out in service.. in my halls, you went out almost regardless of weather.

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  My dad was hardcore and felt if you were in service, you were in service. No coffee breaks (only a few in our hall took mid-morning breaks) and a minimum of two solid hours and actually trying to get them to come to their door.

  I lived in a small town (20,000 plus) in Atlantic Canada so we had some rural territories as well (my dad was the MS in charge of territory distrbution so I was able to finnagle a couple of great rural territories for myself when I aux. pioneered in the summer months (we'd drive for hours playing tunes if we had a "cool" group" when I was a student.

  Between the walking and driving, you hardly talked to anybody. Unfortunately, my dad also made us work the "undesireable" urban territories as well so it evened out.

  Has anyone ever "faked" knocking on a door?
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  Has anybody seen the Australian film The Nostradomus Kid?

  by Whiskeyjack in

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  2. beliefs

  i need help from all you aussie's out there.. most people i know have never heard of this movie.

  it was written by john ellis (i believe) and deals with a young adolescent man's loss of faith (seventh day adventists) during the early sixties.

  i never laughed so much.

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  Whiskeyjack

  Darry,

  The movie was probably made in the late eighties. It was shown on canadian television a couple of years back (came across it by accident while cruising channels-showcasee channel). I've never gone to the trouble to see if it can be specialy ordered but I would definitiely pay a hundred bucks plus to get it fot my personal collection.

  You gotta see this movie then (you'll never cring and laugh so much at the same time)! The camping assembly scenes are worth it alone, it's not just some dumb "coming of age" movie as the google description makes out (the author's real life experiences).

  Again, has anybody else seen rhis movie?
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  Has anybody seen the Australian film The Nostradomus Kid?

  by Whiskeyjack in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i need help from all you aussie's out there.. most people i know have never heard of this movie.

  it was written by john ellis (i believe) and deals with a young adolescent man's loss of faith (seventh day adventists) during the early sixties.

  i never laughed so much.

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  Whiskeyjack

  I need help from all you Aussie's out there.

  Most people I know have never heard of this movie. It was written by John Ellis (I believe) and deals with a young adolescent man's loss of faith (Seventh Day Adventists) during the early sixties. I never laughed so much. The man could have been a witness.

  Does anyone else remember it?
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  Can you ever forgive your family for shunning you?

  by jeanniebeanz in

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  Whiskeyjack

  I guess I'm lucky since my parents have bent over backwards to "be cool" with us. As I've mentionned all of my sibs (5 of us) still have a slightly strained relationship with our folks (hard workers who while diligent in their programing obligations would also stand up for us. My 2nd brother was esttranged for several years with no contact and it nearly broke their hearts but he's reconciled with them 3 years back.

  We do our part in being "descreet" in our visits by keeping a low profile around other JW relatives/associates and events to make it less awkward for them. My dad never agreed with sending people to Coventry (shunning) even though he was a "by the book" type of man.

  Point is though, Dozens of relatives partied with my sibs and parents when we visisted them out east this summer. Most are still JW's and it was this thread that just made me realize how unusual their behaviour was. One of them is an elder to boot but has experienced a little reality with his own grown children in recent years.

  I was interested in Taylor J.'s comment of shunning his relatives instead. I've talked to others in the same boat as many of us and agreed that we have an ethical dilema. Do we let them break the rules and maintain contact or shun them instead until they renounce the org.? (it rankles a little to let them have their cake and eat it too don't you think?)

  So, in addition to Jeannie's query, I would ask if anybody broke off contact for reasons similar to the above.
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  A JWD / Knowledge Jones ...

  by Taylor S. in

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  2. bible

  i've been thinking about it in my sleep ... can sleep.

  it's been less than a month since i stumbled onto this site while researching the roots of jwism for a character i'm writing on.

  since then, i haven't written anything, haven't done much recreationally .... i've just been digging deeper through this site and simultaneously .... digging through my memories of growing up dub.

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  I know how you feel Taylor J.

  As a former lifer myself, I'm embarassed by how much internal organizational stuff I never even heard about. My sister passed the board's address two weeks ago and I've been lurking and now posting sever since- so if I'm an addict that makes her the pusher.

  My blood boils when I think of genuine people like my parents investing their lives and taking unquestionning direction from the GB.