Brevity is indeed the soul of wit!
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Whiskeyjack
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MAKING "THE GOOD" THE ENEMY OF THE PERFECT
by Terry inone clue to thinking rationally is knowing the difference between what is essential and what isn't.. .
imagine you wake up and your house is ablaze.
jehovah's witnesses trade the life they have for one they'll never have.
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Robertson is Unchristian but is he Unpatriotic?
by Oroborus21 inrobertson's call for assassination of the venezuelan president shows once again how corrupt christendom's leaders are.. but what is really interesting is the double standard in place.
if the latest "abu wasabi" were to say on a videotape that george bush should be assassinated, you can bet the secret service would go after the person.
in the right situation there could even be more severe consequences like soldiers sent to capture the person or even a cruise missile or precision bomb dropped on the location.. so why doesn' t the venezuelan government feel justified in doing any of those actions?.
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How true Eduardo. "Standards of conduct" are certainly changing in the area of organised violence.
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Films/movies that resonate with Apostates
by Black Man inthere are a few films that i really connect with that sum up my j-dub experiences........ .
shawshank redemption: if you've ever "served time" at bethel, you can't help but connect with this film.
institutionalization, mental persecution and "andy dufrene crossing through 500 yards of shit, came out clean on the other side.
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The film that most moved me and resonated with my own life experience was the Australian film The Nostradomus Kid . It's about the experience of a young man growing up as a Seventh-Day Adventist and his subsequent rejection of his religious programming.
It's hard to find but definitely worth seeing. The "convention" scenes are worth it alone!
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WHAT AMAZING NEWS I JUST RECIEVED.
by orangefatcat inwho ever said god doesn't hear prayers.
tonight i just found out via es on jwd that she knows my nephew in australia and here is the amazing kicker, my nephew is d/f, i couldn't believe what i was reading.
i am so happy and excited i am ready to bust.
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Great news Ter!
Also, thanks for not posting any late party pics!
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Told my nonJW brother-in-law I'm done with the JW thing
by ithinkisee ini am slowly ramping up the wheels of apostacy and have begun telling a few people to help brace the fallout of me telling my wife.
i have many relatives that aren't jws - both on my side and on my wife's side.
i've already told my dad (who was never a jw - to which i am eternally grateful), and some nonjw business people that i am also friends with.. my wife's brother was never a jw.
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Good luck man! It's great that you've got some family support for you and your kids.
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**MUST READ** AlanF's email to Knocking.org
by sf inthis is a must-read that, hopefully, will stay an "active topic" for all seekers and lurkers, by bumping it to the top as often as possible.
alan wrote it in randys {dogpatch} thread regarding knocking.org documentary and in reply to the email mr. engardio sent to barbara anderson.
however, it is so vital a read that it indeed needs its own thread:.
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An excellent succint summary Alan. Thanks.
I think I'll have to print this one for my old man!
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Social Skills..... or lack thereof
by damselfly ini have come to the realization that i have very poor to non-existent social skills.
i have become so scared of rejection ( i wonder why?
) that i only let people get so close and only reveal select personal information after literally years of knowing someone.sometimes when i'm out in public and see someone i know, if they haven't seen me yet i will try and avoid them.
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Damsel,
I was one of those socially inept former lifers too but working with a large number of young "worldy" students at my old bank helped me to start making casual friends. Even after all these years, I still tend to let people slip out of my life but I've retained a couple of true "worldy friends I've made in recent years and work hard not to let this habit continue.
Self interest classes are a great way to meet folks and I made some great friends in cooking classes (unfortunately all guys!) that I kept in touch with for years. Friendship does mean being willing to "take one on the chin" from people until they prove themselves and we were programmed that everybody else in the world are shit---not true as you probably now know.
So dance away and try some other ones too--and keep us "posted"
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first timer
by DramaQueen inthis is my first time on this web site.
i learned about it from my mom who also posts here.
i used to be a jw but was (thankfully) never baptized, and because of that (the fact that i am no longer a jw) it has kept me from talking to my grandmothers, some of my uncles, and my aunts and also some of my cousins.
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Welcome to the forum DQ!
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Longtime JWs: Can you recall the path of JW doubts throughout your life?
by ithinkisee inhave any of you who were ever "raised in the truth" really traced your doubts back to as early as you remember?
i would be interested in hearing what they were.. i started tracing my path of doubts.
doubts as a child:.
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Well ...
I started having serious doubts about age 20/21 years. I was trying to think of what to do with my life since floatng through high school with no direction (why bother, I would never graduate before this "old system" was no more!). I observed that if the GB tolerated cigeratte smoking for years, what else was God holding back? Just how old was the generation of 1914 going to get? This terminated my sense of GB infallibility in so far as their knowing with God thought.
The proverbial camel back braking straw though was the behaviour of most of all the young people around me (moved among several congs. in my region). Teenagers and young adults in the various social cliques would turn on each other like wolves when one of them got "caught" doing something, pressuring others to "keep their mouths shut" or else experience social death. Since it was often over the usual petty stuff, I couldn't give my alliegance to an organization that couldn't realistically accomodate regular young people. A "Nazereen" lifestyle isn't for everyone but why were we made to feel so worthless and guilty?
Durng this period occurred I had my first real job in a bank which propelled me to go back to University (the local elders were a little worried but I was well liked since I had never been "in trouble--had a very lonely,boring teenage life to pay for this goodwill though!). That job was my first immersion among "worldly" people and opened my eyes to what a strange little group of people I was isolated within.
So I just faded away and never looked back (until I popped on this site)
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CO says not to read anything on here. So here I am. Hello
by ocsrf inmy history,.
47 years doing the jw thing from the age of 3.. many good times and many times i thought i was worthless especially as a teenager.
couldn't be good enough to please some elders.
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Welcome to the form ACSIF (did I get that right?).
I remember that worthless feeling as a teenager. You could never be "perfect" enough, you could'nt do too well at school or follow your talents (I wanted to be a soldier-that wouldn't have gone over too well!) or make real friends there as well (and more often than not, not inside the cong. either if you followed the rules). It was the org.'s inabilty to deal with normal adolescence behaviour that finished it for me in my early twenties.
When somebody tells you what not to read, start asking questions about their motivations!
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