tonight i heard one of the most cruel and twisted comments i've ever heard at the platform.
the topic was the apocalypse and whether or not children will be slaughtered.
through one side of his mouth, the po stated that the bible is not clear on the matter, while out the other side he pointed to all those old testament accounts where children were killed.
And our Almighty Schizm reveals.... watch out everyone that top secret war strategie is going to get you!!!! I'm so scared cause I just don't know what is going to happen. I can just imagine its going to ROCK this forum cause Schizm is has a righteous agenda to show all these bad apostates that they are mistaken.
Moanzy
i presume the jws believe that the 'times of trouble' will be 7 years or something like that - during that time what provisions have the jw organisation made to stay up and running?
seems to me that if communications fail the local congs will be pretty much stiffed without their weekly magazine study.
does the jw org teach any form of physical preparedness or is it every publisher for themselves?.
I was told by an elders wife that this is one of the reasons why regular meeting attendance was so important, so that if any kind of disaster or trouble the elders would be able to give us our instruction (eg. where the next meeting would be )
Moanzy
tonight i heard one of the most cruel and twisted comments i've ever heard at the platform.
the topic was the apocalypse and whether or not children will be slaughtered.
through one side of his mouth, the po stated that the bible is not clear on the matter, while out the other side he pointed to all those old testament accounts where children were killed.
Isn't that interesting!!!! Who exactly would you be talking about? I know Jesus never instructed his followers to do this. Jesus who was sent for all mankind not only to die for us, but show us how to act as christians and somehow the scriptures on his dishonesty allude me. Perhaps Jesus wasn't following instructions properly.
Also, I have seen the dishonesty and lieing of all sorts that go on in the congregations. I was taught as a child to lie to the elders about the physical abuse I suffered under my "elder" fathers hand as well as his son. My sister wasn't allowed to tell the elders about her sexual abuse by her witness uncle because apparently it would defame Jehovah's name. We as children were treated as pathetic and told we needed to be kinder to our wonderful parents who did nothing to make sure we were treated kindly or make sure we were safe. Jehovah's name will never be defamed. It is a manmade organization that should fear. The world in general know the crimes people do in the name of God. God knows that religion including JW are using his name to back up every wrong they do.
I'm sorry,but my God does not work with any organization that is dishonest and is the example of dishonesty(spiritual warfare) to all its members. My God does not welcome organizations that makes families disown their children because these children refused to live with abuse anymore. Obviously you have not had to live with being beaten every day of your life!!!! Obviously you have never had a knife pulled on you by a family member that is baptised and was male so you had to respect him. Obviously you have never been told you were a liar when you tried to get spiritual help from the supposedly sheppards that are suppose to protect you.
I am an honest person and I still read the bible and pray. I know that I don't have all the answers and I know that NO one else does either. I refuse to argue about doctrinal points when God is going to judge me on what kind of person I am while living on earth. Not whether I excepted the doctrine of "spiritual warfare". I care about other peoples welfare and living life the best I can. I spend my days trying to be the best mom I can, teaching them their opinion is worth just as much as yours or mine and I don't beat them. I hope to show them how to except different opinions without being opinionated. I also will teach them about CULTS and what indoctrination does to people. I will teach them that cults will instruct you that you should be willing to give up family for whatever that cult deems necessary. I will tell them that grama and papa couldn't love them because their cult teaches that mommy is bad and will be killed in armageddon and so will they. That they believe they are righteous and we aren't worth anything. That it is OK for their cult to lie and be intellectually dishonest with their people and it is OK as long as no one says anything about it.
Moanzy
i know it's not the lightest of topics but the current news coverage of the pope's final hours made me wonder if i'd face things as calmly as he is reported to be doing.
i don't have his faith, or any faith anymore, but i can see how for a true believer that would be a source of strength.. the thing is, a lot of us thought we'd never die.
do you really comprehend what a truly massive mind-fuck that is?
That is precisely why I think the "soul sleep" or being remembered in God's memory is wrong. I don't know what the answer is or what the Truth of death is really is. What I lean towards is the Near-death experiences and that perhaps we do go to heaven right away. Maybe God does allow us to see our families or sort of "check in " on them. I don't think that after we die and years down the road when our children are all grown up and we've missed out on their growing up period, then God resurrects us is at all fair.
Anyway that is just my view and how I reason with this subject. I hope you find something that makes sense to you.
Moanzy
1. how do you pronounce jaracz?.
2. where can i get a copy of the latest wt cdrom without going to a kh?.
3. in 20 words or less, what are masons?
Hi Pennycandy,
I can answer the Mason question for you. Mason or Freemasonry is an organization based on rituals that they claim they can trace back to the time of King Solomon. At that time when the temple was being built there were many Stone Masons (professional stone cutters) employed. Many of the secret rituals today are suppose to have been from that time period and meant certain things that today no one knows the meaning of. King Solomon was suppose to have been an initiate of this secret and participate in it. The top guy in this whole thing was Hiram Abif who was killed for not divulging the meaning of these secret rituals. The meanings died with him. I read in the "Hiram Key" that it is possible that the ones who killed him might have been from the tribes of Israel that fell from God's Grace. (Gen49:6). However this is just speculation and not necessarily true.
Hope that helps you
Moanzy
tonight i heard one of the most cruel and twisted comments i've ever heard at the platform.
the topic was the apocalypse and whether or not children will be slaughtered.
through one side of his mouth, the po stated that the bible is not clear on the matter, while out the other side he pointed to all those old testament accounts where children were killed.
So Schism care to tell us your "expertise " on what God does or doesn't approve of? I assume your name is Jesus Christ. Humility is a hard thing for many people. The sooner you are able to analize your ability to show this fine christian quality the sooner you may be able to show everyone here that you should be listened to.
When you are finally able to open your mind to see the true tragedies that this organization has done to families and many lives we will all be here for you. You sound like so many of the pathetic elders (including my father) that can't see their own faults.
I also never claimed to be an expert, but I did grow up as a JW my whole life and have my whole life to judge what this organization does as well as teach. I have been taught according to JW doctrine what Jehovah approves and doesn't approve. According to the FDS literature in their "expert opinion" God does not approve of any sort of dishonesty. I'm sorry if I was taught the wrong thing. Perhaps you can let the FDS know that the JWs have been taught the wrong thing for so long and that it's time to clean house and get rid of all those people that believe such an erroneous thing as this.
I hope you learn the truth one day and wish you luck on trying to continually defend lies. And by the way, I sincerely hope that you or your family are never treated abusively or wrongly by this organization and have to live through what most of us have no choice.
Moanzy
it's refreshing to know that we can say negative things about what we know is wrong about the society, governing body, local elders, the "brotherhood", in general------and not get censured or punished for it......i'll start.------- the organization is run more like the scribes and pharisees than jesus and his disciples.
christ reached out to everyone.
the scribes and pharisees treated everyone else like they were inferior, "worldly", not good enough.
The terrible guilt they instill in every person there if they don't abide by or change their attitude. Also the ability of many who don't agree with, but are somehow able to tell themselves that it is their own sinful tendancy for not embracing certain rules and then they just ignore their thoughts and act as if the FDS is right.
Moanzy
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april fool
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Your SICK Vit!!!
Moanzy
Are you breathing a sigh of relief yet? I hope you are.
Moanzy
tonight i heard one of the most cruel and twisted comments i've ever heard at the platform.
the topic was the apocalypse and whether or not children will be slaughtered.
through one side of his mouth, the po stated that the bible is not clear on the matter, while out the other side he pointed to all those old testament accounts where children were killed.
I find it so sad SCIZM that you continue to exept sin from your leaders as if God approves. What is good for the goose is good for the gander and the Society doesn't believe in this rule. They are making excuses for their behavior by saying it is "spiritual warfare". THIS IS NOT THEIR WAR!!!!! God does not approve of lieing or decieving from anyone and that include THEM.
They are human beings that BELIEVE God is using them and so they think that they have the RIGHT to do wrong. God does not work that way and Jesus NEVER instructed anyone to wage any type of Spiritual Warfare. It may be hard to get it through your thick head, but they are doing wong and it is people like you that they are duping.
It seems so unbelievable that this is happening, but they do not have YOURS or any other witnesses best interest in mind. They are selfish and they are liars and in the end they really don't care if you or your family is crushed by their agenda. You and all the other JW's are just a means to the end.(money). If something bad happens they will just turn around and justify it all with a scripture.
Moanzy
