I think there was something written in the Divine Purpose book that implies/encourages this belief.
Moanzy
i was wondering if this was being taught in the congregations.
my sister who is still a jw told me this the other day when i said that the wtbts has only been around for a short time, relatively speaking.. my mother, who hasn't been to a meeting in years, agrees with her.
what is being taught now with regards to this, does anyone know?
I think there was something written in the Divine Purpose book that implies/encourages this belief.
Moanzy
i've read alot of stories on the sextuplets, and it's great to have the media reporting 'bad' light on the no-blood policy & jws in general.
but, we need to ramp it up.
the media is missing the big story - the fraction lie.
I know of 2 people in my old cong. that decided on the Rhogam shot. (my aunt and elders wife) It is considered a concience matter, but it was a subject of gossip within our cong.
When I started having children I was told I was RH negative. I decided to have the shot, but I was grilled by my mom and sister over the fact that I was taking blood
and that their concience would never allow them to do this. It was either the shot or a blood transfusion for my little baby perhaps even before she was born. At the time
it was the lesser of the 2 evils. What I understand is that taking in fractions are a concience matter as long as you don't tell anyone about it. As soon as other JW's know
you are going to hear how "their" concience is stronger and would never bla bla bla!!!
Moanzy
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do you ever recall when a magazine, book, pamphlet or tract made you start to question .
or doubt the written material?
I can't remember too many things that made sense to me while I was a witness. One thing in particular that made me do a double take was a watchtower where they said that those that quit reading the watchtower and went back to reading just the bible soon returned to pagan practices(something like that, can't remember the exact words).
I remember thinking that what they said did not help their case as far as saying they had the truth.
Moanzy
i was wondering what an elder or ms might say to a wife who has an unbelieving mate?.
especially if her mate is in direct opposition of the truth.
i dont necessarily mean that her life in any physical danger.
My unbelieving husband wasn't opposed to anything but the preaching work. I tried to explain how he felt about service and that I just didn't know what to do. I was told
that he would either finally give in or he would leave. It was said in a very OH WELL tone like my marriage being broken was no great loss.
Moanzy
prior to you leaving the org did you come to the conclusion that if you didnt actually take the step and leave, that you would run into serious mental difficulty.. i really feel that for 5 years proir to my finally leaving i was quite impaired mentally by the teachings and practices of the org.
it was coming to a head though when i finally announced that i was leaving.
i really felt that i was under intense mental pressure and that if i didnt get out then i may end up doing something serious.
My babies were so small when I quit. I just couldn't handle trying to get to endless meetings, finding excuses for not doing service(husband opposed). Trying to keep him happy, the kids looked after, the elders happy(I was subject to them not my husband, I was told) and then going through post-partum. Then add in my INSANE JW family. It was impossible, literally!!!!!
Moanzy
how did you view your unbelieving parent?
how did you view the contrasting interests of your unbelieving parent?
did your jw parent have the greater influence on you?
My dad was only a part of my life up until I was about 4. I never hated my dad, but my very last memory of him was when he brought us home from christmas.
He argued that he wanted us living a normal childhood, involved in all holidays at school etc. My mom of course is bawling and my new step-dad takes after my
dad. I thought my dad was done for sure. This was scary and mom didn't really tell us too much about him growing up. He was disfellowshipped for apostacy because he questioned
many of the bizarre teachings of the witnesses and could no longer live it.
I met my dad again when I was 19 and I feel sick that I lost out on a perfectly good father because of this cult. My mom is a die-hard and would rather make us live through abuse
than to live with a man who isn't a JW. Her words to my father-- "I'm imbarrassed to walk down the street with you".
Moanzy
for some reason, which i really don't understand, some call me dork..... .
oh, and how do you like my colored background.
i geuss no one knows how i did this..... .
Growing up I was called "missy". My husband calls me babe-a-licious, boomboom, and his personal favorite Mortisha. I call him Bubbles!
Moanzy
i have a 3 year old girl, and she is wild... she has recently started completley disobeying, talking back, slamming doors, spitting at me etc.
it is getting miserable to go anywhere because she throws fits, runs around resturants screaming.
at dance class, her teacher had to send her off the floor because she was the only kid running around and woud not listen.
When my daughter was 3 she was HELL!!! She would scream the "f" word all the way home if I didn't give her something from the store, she would throw her boots as far as she could from the cart and scream so loud I thought her head would burst.
She broke my nose because of her temper and she would throw her bookcases in her room, kick the walls and door. I had help with her, being that I had a new baby and I was crying all the time. I learned first and foremost is use distraction. If you can head off a tantrum before it begins, do it!! When it's inevitable I would put her in her room and make her stay in it until she was done. I had to make sure it was safe since she was destructive. Sometimes I would make a timeout for myself and lock myself and the baby in my room and tell her mommy needs a time out and I will come out when she is going to be nice. ----she still through a fit, kicking the door and screaming. Eventually she would quit, at times lasting for 20min or so.
I had my mother-in-law come running over from down the street wondering what I was doing to this kid. Some kids are just over the top nightmares even though some of it is normal.
Don't feel bad about your parenting, if you feel guilty they will be able to tell. Remember you are preparing for "attitude" as they grow older.
Moanzy
ok, well, mom called.. she left a message.
my cphone got saturated with chocolate milk and the screen is no longer working, and the battery is not charging right.
(blame it on the kids) so i didn't know she had called.
My mother-in-law just filed for her CPP for retirement and she required all her children's SIN # so that she could collect extra money. This had to do with staying at home to raise her
children during certain years.
Moanzy
what is your story?.
should you have gone to a psychiatrist for helo?.
perhaps you regret not getting a college ed or pursuing a career?.
YES YES YES!!!! For starters my parents would never have divorced if my dad was not disfellowshipped for apostacy. Mom remarried to a very volitile man which made our upbringing a living HELL. I had so little self-esteem to the point I became a self-harmer and was hospitalized for an eating disorder. I never went to college which I really wish I could have. My oldest sister is missing because of this pathetic religion and what it has contributed in creating what my parents and siblings are as people. Every single person in our family is a mess. I have no family!!!!
The positive: I have a wonderful non-JW husband who stuck through it all for 15yrs, 3 beautiful little girls, I've had extensive councelling, I will be going to college next fall and materially I've been blessed. I probably would have had non of this if I wouldn't have lived through my witness childhood. Pehaps I would have been better adjusted as an individual, but I've made better choices in life because of living through those experiences.
Moanzy