To Ithinkisee: I have long pondered over similar questions about why they do what they have done with their teachings. I think initially they "did the wrong thing for the right reason". The "right reason" in their minds being keeping the flock together. Never mind if the teaching is false or not - unity and obedience is more important to them. They don't want any lowly man at the bottom telling them something is wrong. Then as time goes on add all the egos and they start acting god-like and you have what you have now. LHG
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Talked to a friend of mine...
by ithinkisee inover the last week i have been telling a longtime friend of mine from my hometown about what i found.
we were best friends all growing up and he had some real bad physical abuse probs in his house and so when he graduated he left the truth and has just recently started coming back.
he?s been studying off and on.
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Cruel Joke by Circuit Overseer
by diamondblue1974 ini was reading the thread about the prospect of the wts releasing some new light shite about a prophecy to fulfil the fact that they are not growing and it brought back a really horrid memory, unintentional i know but horrid nonetheless.. the co visited the congregation were i was from and after the obligatory song and prayer, it was announced that the co needed to speak to us urgently on a local needs issue.
he came onto the platform his look was sombre and melancholy (nothing new there then).
he said he had an announcement from the governing body and that their had been a law passed that day which banned jw's in the uk that the usa and other world governments had notified the wts that they were to follow suit shortly.
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Yes, this sort of fake anecdotal story used to make me angry also. Trying to drum up emotion over something that didn't really happen really gets me. On a somewhat related note: I used to get really pissed off at the book studies when they would point to a picture in the book and comment on it as if it were an actual photograph taken by an eyewitness in the first century! As though they had camcorders back then! LHG
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Losing faith in the organization
by parakete ini have been a jw for more than 20 years, but during these past few years i have come to realize that some of the elders and regular publishers are very hypocritical and insensitive.
they have done things that really disgust me.
tare so arrogant that they cannot take any criticism form you.
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Parakete: I understand exactly how you feel. The reason they behave this way is because they already feel "saved" because they are knocking on doors. I guess they feel this covers a multitude of sins. Now, they will never actually say this to you but I do believe they feel this way in their hearts. I also am sick of the attitude that you cannot criticize the elders. I have noticed over time that they are gradually "elevating" themselves higher and higher. LHG
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Did you feel guilty when you did your first post on the forum???
by Es inhello all, hope everyone is well,.
as i read many posts there seems to be many that "closet" read and it isnt till many months or even years that they actually post something.
was just wondering how long it took other people to post and did they feel guilty?.
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Yes, I did feel very guilty. In fact, my heart was fluttering. In a way I feel sad because the "Truth" meant so much to me at one time. I would never have seen myself doing this! But when I found out about their history I feel I was deceived coupled with what I personally experienced I felt I could no longer feel the same about them. In fact, most of what I found out about them I already knew or suspected. LHG
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Hi everybody I'm new
by LongHairGal ini am a long time lurker who has come out of the closet.
i have read many fine posts here and feel for all of you who have been hurt by the witnesses.
they are a lying, unaccountable organization - with an emphasis on the word unaccountable!
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Thank you for all your comments and for letting me vent as I have had all this pent up. After all, as a JW you can't go around telling people how you really feel as what you say can and will be used against you. Let me state, first of all, that if I knew the real history of Jehovah's Witnesses I would never have become one. This was hidden from me as it was from everyone else. I was shocked to learn their long list of failed prophecies and discarded beliefs. This really bothered me because many good people sacrificed too much. They cannot get back the precious years wasted. I also cannot reconcile this matter with a just god. How could he let this happen? Are we so worthless to him that he doesn't care if our lives are wasted down a wrong road? Even though it wasn't all bad (I did get rid of some bad habits) and I learned self-discipline - does that justify the bad? Someone told me I should look at it as though I were in a bad marriage and just move on. I am trying to do that. As I mentioned earlier, I am not out and I do keep my feelings to myself and I do not hate the Witnesses as I am still friends with some of them. LHG
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Hi everybody I'm new
by LongHairGal ini am a long time lurker who has come out of the closet.
i have read many fine posts here and feel for all of you who have been hurt by the witnesses.
they are a lying, unaccountable organization - with an emphasis on the word unaccountable!
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Hi Jack, I don't mean to sound angry but I did feel lied to when they changed the 1914 generation thing in 1995. When I came in they taught that vehemently! They pounded it into our heads. I felt like I got punched in the stomach and had the rug pulled out from under me. And I don't recall ever reading an apology about it. LHG
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Hi everybody I'm new
by LongHairGal ini am a long time lurker who has come out of the closet.
i have read many fine posts here and feel for all of you who have been hurt by the witnesses.
they are a lying, unaccountable organization - with an emphasis on the word unaccountable!
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LongHairGal
Hi Happy Dad, As an ex-elder I am sure you have seen much. What especially bothers me is that there are no programs to help the poor. You may not realize it but the plight of certain single sisters who are middle aged or older is rather bad. Especially the ones who never got an education or a "real job". What really got me is that there is an erroneous belief (which refuses to die) that single women (or men) have no problems. The problem with this fallacy is that if you are single you would be the last one to get help!! After all, people aren't going to help someone they are jealous of and who they think has no problems, are they? LHG
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Hi everybody I'm new
by LongHairGal ini am a long time lurker who has come out of the closet.
i have read many fine posts here and feel for all of you who have been hurt by the witnesses.
they are a lying, unaccountable organization - with an emphasis on the word unaccountable!
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LongHairGal
Hello mtbatoon: I confess I don't know what a loudhailer is (I'm from the tri-state New York area). LHG
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Hi everybody I'm new
by LongHairGal ini am a long time lurker who has come out of the closet.
i have read many fine posts here and feel for all of you who have been hurt by the witnesses.
they are a lying, unaccountable organization - with an emphasis on the word unaccountable!
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LongHairGal
Hi again,
Thank you all again for your warm welcome. In answer to the question if I read a certain person's posts - maybe I did. I don't always get the chance to come here.
I also want to say that I am really horrified at the amount of pain many of you have suffered at the hands of people in the congregation and how there was no real justice (you were expected to absorb the problem - whatever it was). I am sure all of you were far better Christians than I was!! I was always criticized because I didn't "widen out" but I am glad I didn't. You never knew what you were widening out to and I always felt I had to hold them at bay. You realize it is worse for a single woman because she has no man to "protect her". I realized instinctively that they do not respect boundaries. I got criticism because some people said I was "hard to get close to". That isn't entirely true. It is just that I saw from a distance how some others were treated when they did let people into their lives. Now, I realize that some people there are perfectly happy and I have seen many friendships so I cannot say my experience applies to everybody else. My friends there were few and far between and can be counted on one hand.
LHG
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Hi everybody I'm new
by LongHairGal ini am a long time lurker who has come out of the closet.
i have read many fine posts here and feel for all of you who have been hurt by the witnesses.
they are a lying, unaccountable organization - with an emphasis on the word unaccountable!
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LongHairGal
Greetings,
I am a long time lurker who has come out of the closet. I have read many fine posts here and feel for all of you who have been hurt by the Witnesses. They are a lying, unaccountable organization - with an emphasis on the word unaccountable! I am a single woman who works full time and I am currently inactive as a JW. I am doing a slow fade because of my situation. I was never a good witness and was always on the fringes because I work full time and because of being outspoken. I also did not study and read regularly because I didn't see the point why we had to drill all this nonsense into our heads constantly. Perhaps if I did I would have been out sooner! Everybody has their "thing" about the JWs that they hate. My "things" are the fact that they don't really believe in education or work (as evidenced by the fact that they tell you to spend as little time as possible on a secular job). But yet they expect to benefit from the fact that you have a job! Also, that they purport to be a brotherhood - if you consider a panel of backstabbing, judgmental idiots to be your brothers. Their treatment of single women is appalling. They deserve real punishment for this and many other things. While I consider myself to be "out" mentally and have gotten on with my life, I feel anger for being deceived and also because of the airs they put on. They expect people to accept claims that cannot be substantiated (annointed, etc.) There is so much more to say.
LHG