Scully,
Good point about how in ancient Israel a person who exposed wrongdoing was a prophet. But they have done a 360 degree turnaround and now say that such a person is "bringing reproach on Jehovah". That phrase used to always get me because I could see that it could never have been meant to be used as they use it.
They use this phrase as a device to "guilt" people into shutting their mouths about keeping quiet about something bad. The statement usually goes hand in hand with another of their favorities: "wait on Jehovah".
When translated into English what they both mean is:
"wait on Jehovah" = do nothing
"don't bring reproach on Jehovah" = say nothing
LongHairGal
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I Have Brought Reproach Upon Jehovah
by Honesty inbecause i have told many people about the watchtower bible and tract society's affiliation with the united nations i have reproached the name of jehovah according to my ex-wife.
when i mentioned to her that it was the watchtower bible and tract society who had done the dirty deed with the un and that i was just the messenger she blew up and told me that it was all my fault that jehovah's good name had been reproached.
if it wasn't so pathetic that the dubs really believe the wtbts can do no wrong and anyone who exposes their hypocrisy and dirty deeds is bringing reproach on jehovah it would almost be funny enough to put them on late-night tv.
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LongHairGal
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Demographics within WTS
by Dune ini asked an elder when i was younger if the society had a census on who was in the organization.
things such as race, gender, age and wealth (kind of hard to find for the last) he told me no.
he said that the only thing that the only thing that was reported to brooklyn was who was baptized and if someone was disfellowshipped.. do you think theres a reason they dont tell us the women to men ratio or am i just looking to deep into this?
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FinallyFree:
I was a woman like your ex so I didn't really fit in there. I too spoke my mind when something was screwed up - and I didn't care who I said it to. That didn't make me very popular. Initially, I never did this because I wanted to hurt anybody's feelings, I just felt things were unjust or just plain wrong. I never felt I was doing anything unscriptural, I was just calling a spade a spade. As with you, some men liked me and some didn't (same with the women there).
Funny, even with all this abuse that is not the thing that made me want to call it quits there. -
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Have You Seen My Mother.... The word is out!
by Bryan inmore news tomorrow!
bryan
have you seen my mother
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Bryan,
Your story is so sad it brought tears to my eyes. Thanks for having the courage to speak out.
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Demographics within WTS
by Dune ini asked an elder when i was younger if the society had a census on who was in the organization.
things such as race, gender, age and wealth (kind of hard to find for the last) he told me no.
he said that the only thing that the only thing that was reported to brooklyn was who was baptized and if someone was disfellowshipped.. do you think theres a reason they dont tell us the women to men ratio or am i just looking to deep into this?
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LongHairGal
Dune,
I agree with you about a woman there having to be more attractive than spiritiual. Yes, I did hear of a very overweight sister who was a pioneer who did everything but couldn't meet anybody.
A woman there definitely has to be pretty (and preferably young). Although, if she were a divorcee or widow with MONEY you can betcha the brothers would definitely go after her. Some of them are such opportunists. -
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Demographics within WTS
by Dune ini asked an elder when i was younger if the society had a census on who was in the organization.
things such as race, gender, age and wealth (kind of hard to find for the last) he told me no.
he said that the only thing that the only thing that was reported to brooklyn was who was baptized and if someone was disfellowshipped.. do you think theres a reason they dont tell us the women to men ratio or am i just looking to deep into this?
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LongHairGal
Honesty,
Even though you make less money than you did when you worked for the defense industy you don't have to feel as though your life is over and that you can't be with somebody. In this day and age of unemployment and downsizing. Some people with six figure incomes can be out of work in an instant. Because you have more going for you mentally than most dubs you shouldn't compare yourself to them. As far as baggage is concerned, yes it is true ex-dubs have much. But try looking at so-called worldly people. They have loads of baggage too. No one is exempt.
FinallyFree,
Yes, I saw what you saw and it made me angry. Although, I never had a great "career", I certainly would not have left it if I did - all so that some idiot could feel better about himself at my expense!? I always felt they were threatened by women who were intelligent. You have heard of female circumcision practiced by muslims? Well I compare that to what dubs try to do to a woman's brain! They try to destroy her or symbolically castrate her - because they are sick and inadequate!
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JW's and education
by sinis ingod!!!!
it just frys me that they brainwash these fools and they believe.
i'm out but my wife still straggles behind.
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FinallyFree:
Hooray for you in throwing the book study out of your house. You are totally right to feel that they should NOT benefit in any way from YOUR material gain since they have such contempt for it (or so they say)!
That is one of the first lessons I learned about them years ago. They don't believe in education or work (as evidenced by the fact that they tell you to spend as little time as possible on a secular job), but yet they have the audacity to think they are going to benefit from the fact that you have a job.
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Demographics within WTS
by Dune ini asked an elder when i was younger if the society had a census on who was in the organization.
things such as race, gender, age and wealth (kind of hard to find for the last) he told me no.
he said that the only thing that the only thing that was reported to brooklyn was who was baptized and if someone was disfellowshipped.. do you think theres a reason they dont tell us the women to men ratio or am i just looking to deep into this?
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LongHairGal
Inquiryman:
Those statistics about the female to male ratio are sobering.
It is practically a necessity for a woman to look outside the congregation to find a man. What is not mentioned (and makes the picture MUCH worse) is the fact that some men in the congregation are not "right" and are unmarriageable for various reasons which I won't go into. I don't mean to sound cruel but it is true. To add further insult to injury, it is highly unlikely they are even educated so what kind of earning potential do they even have?
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They wonder why they are losing people???
by LongHairGal ini have to laugh at how hard they try to bring people in by knocking on doors and rv's - but once the people are in they are pushing them out the back door with both hands!
we all remember how hard it was to stay there (even if you believed it all) - let alone the head-trips they put you through!!
listen to this.
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LongHairGal
Oh, did I mention that this young man is one who dropped out of college (against everyone's advice) to pursue theocratic things? He keeps saying that this system couldn't go on much longer.
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JW's and education
by sinis ingod!!!!
it just frys me that they brainwash these fools and they believe.
i'm out but my wife still straggles behind.
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Stormfront:
If I were you I would never let my dub wife have any control of the purse strings. Forget about having her invest anything! She probably doesn't know the first thing about it. Besides, you never know, she might be contributing to the congregation without you knowing it. I am sure you wouldn't want that! -
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My Mom Requests They Don't Announce Her Name If She Is Sick--- On Platform
by minimus inmy mother's so disillusioned by the elders, circuit overseer and society for removing her as a pioneer for going to my daughter's wedding in which she married an "unbeliever", that she has told the elders not to even announce her name if they find out she's been sick or could use some welcomed calls.
nope!
she just wants them to stay away from her as long as is possible.
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LongHairGal
With regard to them alienating the faithful: they should never forget that these elderly ones are probably the only ones really contributing any money.
What happens when these ones are gone - or if they leave? I don't know if anybody realizes it but the elderly are the only ones (if any) who have disposable income to part with. Do they think that the struggling younger dubs raising families (especially the ones who didn't go to college and who earn low wages) are going to be putting money in the contribution box?
I don't think so.