i think it’s time for business to reopen and let’s get the economy going again!
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what say you??
THOMAS COVENANT:
It’s not practical or possible for everybody to stay home for extended periods of time. I don’t know if it would have mattered. The poster, Zing, who recently passed away from covid, took every precaution and did more than I do. (A poster named ZILGEE posted a link with a post by Zing in the SNARE&RACKET thread).
I’m not saying people shouldn’t be careful but I long suspected the virus is more contagious than they say and may be in the environment.
hey all,.
i'm day six of isolation, confirmed to have coronavirus.
i have been seeing very sick cv positive patients over the last month in my a&e role (emergency physician) it was inevitable i would contract it.. just wanted to give some symptom and treatment advice, it's anecdotal but may help.. started as sore throat and headache, then croaky voice, then dry cough, then episodic transient fevers, all this over the first few days.
ZILGEE:
Not to hijack the thread:
I read that link about Zing and he took more precautions than I do!!! ..So, just what is the public supposed to believe about how the virus is transmitted?? I just wear a mask, no gloves, I confess that I do not use hand sanitizer..I just wash hands dozens of times, do an alcohol wipedown of every surface plus keys, etc.
Getting back to the OP: I hope that SNARE&RACKET is doing well.
how many of you remember these?
(since these are old i don't think the tower will get a hernia.).
a stroll down memory lane!https://docdro.id/ylyfur6peace among men of good will.
ATLANTIS:
(Petra)
They were doing written reviews when I came into the JW religion in the late 1970s.
Being raised Catholic I thought it was a little strange but it appeared to be harmless from what I could see. Then at some point they stopped doing that. BTW, when I came in there was a brief intermission between the two Thursday night meetings. They did away with that also.
As far as being in the Theocratic Ministry School: I had to be pushed to join..In the second congregation I was associated with, I ended up taking myself off the school because it was a burden to get together with other sisters (who I didn’t care for) to do these ‘skits’..I hated it.
The whole Witness religion was such a burden for many reasons and I’m glad I left.
relationship issues: boundaries, freedom of choice and codependency .
i just read a very interesting thought in the book, "boundaries" by cloud & townsend.
the basic problem in human relationship is that of freedom.
I am very glad to see this thread about Boundaries resurrected and to read my posts from eight years ago... I’m further along in my ‘Fade’ so unpleasant experiences in the Witness religion (as a single woman fending off Users) are fading from memory..which is as it should be.
But I have to say that the issue of No Boundaries in the Witness religion is very real and NOW more important than ever. From what I have learned on this forum and others, they have gone overboard in overstepping boundaries. With Zoom meetings people are expected to dress up in their own living room to be seen on live video. In effect, their homes are extensions of the kingdom hall. Also, in recent years they have asked intrusive questions of people with regard to income to determine how much $ they should contribute to the religion, etc.. I would never tolerate this since I was criticized for having a full-time job! Good thing I never listened or I wouldn’t be Retired now.
A lot has happened in the almost twenty years I walked away from the religion. I thought it was bad then. It is worse now.
i’ve been thinking about it for a few weeks and i’m sort of surprised that no one else has introduced this topic!.
what better time than now for a fader to fade?
no meetings, no field service, no elder visits, no assemblies, no convention, and no other bullshit busy work going on.
ROAD TO NOWHERE:
With this Zoom tyranny, I think people are going get fed up. Dressing up to be in your own home as if it were an extension of the kingdom hall?..and them thinking that because you ‘are home’ you shouldn’t have a problem with them constantly checking up on you?
This is a worse invasion of privacy, in my opinion, than before.
I think what’s going to happen is one day some JWs are going to wake up and say no more - and Zoom is not going to be switched on!
As far as would-be ‘faders’, now is a great time to take advantage of this situation.
i've been reading that in asian countries if you go outside without a mask on, your looked at oddly and with disapproval.
it seems they have been wearing masks for years.
yet uk/us/canada/ and other countries do not.
CAVES:
Years back I would see Asians (who I thought were tourists) with masks on in the city. I also saw them walk with umbrellas on sunny days because they didn’t want the sun on them.
I just assumed the masks were because they considered it a normal thing to do back in their populated city, too many germs, etc.
Even though I don’t want masks to be normal in the US, they might be under some circumstances..I wouldn’t blame people in the subway for wearing them.
there was a letter read sunday at our meeting that mentioned some parts of us are starting to open back up.
however, regardless of things opening up that no kingdom halls should be used for any meetings of any kind.
also, no door-to-door ministry or any form of in-person ministry is allowed.
VIDIOT:
If there is an inkling of truth to this news, then the JW religion will go mostly online. You are right that this crisis has been tailor made for them to accomplish selling off most of the kingdom halls.
But, I still think the religion is on its way to dwindling down to a very small sect.
As for those who think Zoom meetings are going to save them, I’m not so sure. I still believe fence-sitters and would-be faders are as good as out. As for the remainder of the JWs: the faithful elderly are passing away. It remains to be seen whether the Witnesses who are left will still remain interested in the religion. Whether they contribute $ is another thing!. If people have have lost jobs in this crisis, No way!
I could be wrong but time will tell.
very sad news .i am zing's partner.
first time on any kind of blog so please forgive any mistakes.
we have lost zing to the coronavirus this saturday gone, in the early hours.
So sorry to hear this terrible news and I give my sincerest Condolences to the family and friends of Zing!
i think it’s time for business to reopen and let’s get the economy going again!
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what say you??
DESIROUS OF CHANGE:
I agree with you about ‘keeping your eye simple’ and how it kept costs down! So, if we took anything valuable from our JW experience that should be it.
As for the attitude that some have about the govt. bailing them out:..the JWs have the same attitude who think other Witnesses who saved or were criticized for working are going to give to those who didn’t want to...Not gonna happen.
MEAN MR MUSTARD:
I am referring to expensive things like rent, car insurance and medical insurance. Why these things are expensive? That’s a topic for another thread.
I agree with you and DOC that many people live beyond their means which has to do with their values. But, that’s also another topic for another thread.
are they revered like the pope is to catholics??
back in the 1960s , fred franz and n.h knorr were the only men that counted.
after franz died, the governing body became more of an idolized entity.
DESIROUS OF CHANGE:
Yes, the GB no longer have the holy mystique they had when they were more anonymous.
But, even when I was an active JW I never really swallowed any nonsense about them having any ‘special communication with God’ or whatever weasel words used.. When you really think about it somebody having communication with God would really be SOME event wouldn’t it?..If anybody really communicated with the Creator, I want to shake that person’s hand!
