Posts by LongHairGal

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TO SELECTED BODIES OF ELDERS ASSIGNED TO THE COVID-19

by pixel in

december 25, 2020. to selected bodies of elders assigned to the covid-19.

re: adjustments to arrangements for meeting family food needs during the covid-19 pandemic.

dear brothers:.

LongHairGal

FEDUPJW:

I am sorry that your parents were ignored and ridiculed!! What you say is probably true:..those who worked hard or had savings or set aside provisions, etc. would be guilted into giving to those as you say who were ‘too lazy or stupid’ to do so.

What I’m getting the sense of is they are trying to get people to be co-dependent.

I hate being right, but I predicted things would be bad in congregations because of decades of being told they shouldn’t have careers or plan for Retirement. This is against all common sense!! The JWs in congregations who never planned were in trouble long before Covid!..Adding to that the bethelites who got kicked out in recent years plus troubled types recruited to fill empty seats in halls - not a good scenario.

Naturally, anybody there NOW who even has a job, looks halfway decent, seems to have their act together or isn’t downright nuts - is going to be targeted like they were an ATM machine! ..I’m so glad I got out years ago because this is what I would be faced with. Yes..the retired me who was criticized and shunned way back when for having a full time job!

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Who was it who ''rescued'', or ''saved'' you?

by Beth Sarim in

from the borg?.

i point to none other than cal lehman and the towerwatch ministries.

towewatch.com.. the years following the collapse of the ussr and the 1995 generation left a bad taste in my mouth for a long time.

LongHairGal

BETH SARIM:

There was no particular person who ‘saved’ me from the religion. But, you mentioned the 1995 Generation thing.

This was IT for me when this article on Generation came out..No getting away from this fact..I felt sucker punched and knew it was over - in a way that nothing else made me feel up to that point. I knew I could no longer continue in the JW religion and so I planned my ‘Fade’ and walked away a few years later.

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Meeting Workbook - I am your inheritance - April 5-11

by JWTom in

similar to the bethelites being dismissed topic for march/april 2020 is the article for april 5-11 related to the idea "if you just do what jw.org says....then someone is going to slide cash under your door and it will all be good related to your future finances" (link below).. i know current jws that believe this and have pimi family that believe this.

they believe these even though they have endlessly challenging finances even struggling to pay bills.

the reality is that anyone struggling financially as a jw is going to be in a state of poverty just trying to survive.

LongHairGal

JWTOM & FUNKY:

Back when I was active as a Witness, I saw this attitude you mention that some felt if somebody was active in the ministry..‘somebody was going to slide cash under their door if they were needy, etc.’

I’m sorry but I never agreed with this mentality from Day One... I got the sense that some JWs saw themselves as a wannabe clergy class within the religion. After the terrible attitude displayed towards me because I had a full time job, I had No intention of giving anything to anybody there who didn’t really want to be in the workforce - and who had the audacity to condemn me for being there.

If I had a friend who was a Responsible person who lost their job and needed groceries or something, that’s different. But, as for anybody in the religion who felt they were a special class who wouldn’t be caught dead in a Real job..well let them go ask their so-called spiritual friends for money and stay the hell away from me.

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Are there more Bethel layoffs in the immediate future?

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

i just saw a post on reddit: ‘wt are prepping the r&f for changes in the march/april meeting workbook’.. in the post the person noted what they read (for march 8) and it mentioned bethel adjustments and reference was made to 2015 when bethelites were let go.. if this happens (yet again) another bunch of people are being sent home to fend for themselves in the big bad world at an advanced age with little to no preparation.

even though this doesn’t surprise me, it could not come at a worse time with a global pandemic and massive job loss everywhere..congregations are already in turmoil because of so many who reached retirement age totally unprepared because they were told armageddon would be here before they reached that age.

this is in addition to all the other ‘needy’ and troubled types in the congregations looking for as$istance.. i hope any bethelites there have a plan and some people they can contact.

LongHairGal

ISSJR:

When you say you did everything ‘right’ you are referring to what you were told to do by the JW religion, am I right?

The problem is that for people such as myself who were not raised in the religion - what the religion did was certainly not ‘right’ according to what intelligent people in real life would do. I am referring to them not believing in saving for the future, knocking college, retirement planning, etc. No backup plan for them! I always thought this was weird and I am so glad I never paid attention to foolish talk and kept my business to myself.

In fact, doesn’t the Bible refer to the lowly ant in Proverbs 30:25 which stores up for itself?.. So, not only are they not sensible, they aren’t even following the Bible they brag about so much!

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My new definition of cult.

by Yomama in

jw
friends

forcing someone to believe something that is untrure and shunning them if they do not believe it.

LongHairGal

DREARYWEATHER:

Technically I joined the JW religion as well. I was a young working adult. A Big however though:.. I joined based on what they SAID they were! So, I understand where MAGNUM is coming from.

I was told everybody was ‘equal’ (that’s a laugh) and was told they had ‘no clergy class’ (they have what amounts to a plain clothes clergy who claim ecclesiastical privilege in courts of law)..In fact, I didn’t think the JWs were a religion per se... I was raised Catholic and it sounded nice that it was supposedly classless and clergyless. But, I was young and ignorant about the bible. I was led to believe the JWs cracked some code in the bible. Since I was interested in end-time prophecy I was impressed by all this.

Of course, in time it was all revealed that what I was led to believe wasn’t true. Luckily for me, I never caved in to all the pressure to quit my decent full-time job to do housecleaning and pioneer! ..Years later this proved to be wise as I am now Retired.

I generally was viewed as ‘not-spiritual’ (they do love their labels)..because I wouldn’t let these people control my life and stick their noses where it didn’t belong..I had few friends and stayed on the fringes of the congregation until the 1995 teaching on Generation sucker-punched me. I began my ‘Fade’ sometime after that..My only regret was that I didn’t get Out sooner.

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Are there more Bethel layoffs in the immediate future?

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

i just saw a post on reddit: ‘wt are prepping the r&f for changes in the march/april meeting workbook’.. in the post the person noted what they read (for march 8) and it mentioned bethel adjustments and reference was made to 2015 when bethelites were let go.. if this happens (yet again) another bunch of people are being sent home to fend for themselves in the big bad world at an advanced age with little to no preparation.

even though this doesn’t surprise me, it could not come at a worse time with a global pandemic and massive job loss everywhere..congregations are already in turmoil because of so many who reached retirement age totally unprepared because they were told armageddon would be here before they reached that age.

this is in addition to all the other ‘needy’ and troubled types in the congregations looking for as$istance.. i hope any bethelites there have a plan and some people they can contact.

LongHairGal

PISTOLPETE:

No, it’s not your imagination but a deliberate pattern, in my opinion. The problem was especially worse if a single woman had no family there. You were fair game. They imagined single women were going to do favors for all the Users.

But, they got nowhere with me after how I was viewed for having a full time job. It was also my opinion back then that I wasn’t giving any handouts to pioneers living on the edge. I saw people who had No business being on the pioneer list. What about the scripture of ‘counting the cost’?

I think some of these younger pioneers may have wised up at some point years ago and may have gotten jobs in an office because they needed medical coverage. Good for them if they did and hopefully prepared for Retirement because it’s not easy - as these laid off bethelites are going to find out!

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Are there more Bethel layoffs in the immediate future?

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

i just saw a post on reddit: ‘wt are prepping the r&f for changes in the march/april meeting workbook’.. in the post the person noted what they read (for march 8) and it mentioned bethel adjustments and reference was made to 2015 when bethelites were let go.. if this happens (yet again) another bunch of people are being sent home to fend for themselves in the big bad world at an advanced age with little to no preparation.

even though this doesn’t surprise me, it could not come at a worse time with a global pandemic and massive job loss everywhere..congregations are already in turmoil because of so many who reached retirement age totally unprepared because they were told armageddon would be here before they reached that age.

this is in addition to all the other ‘needy’ and troubled types in the congregations looking for as$istance.. i hope any bethelites there have a plan and some people they can contact.

LongHairGal

PISTOLPETE:

But, was it the God of the universe who said these things..OR was it a bunch of men? This is the problem. So when this lady said: ‘those who disobeyed, He (God) blessed’, this is just HER opinion.

So, when I held onto my full time job and ignored the foolish talk and the older hypocritical people in the religion with cushy lives (because they were ALREADY in the workforce when they joined the JW religion) I was being ‘disobedient’?? 🙄 I don’t believe this.

This is how sick things are in the religion. I saw affluent people in the congregation in the lap of luxury. But, as a single woman looking out for myself making a living - I was scrutinized and criticized.

When all is said and done all these years later I’m glad I followed my instincts and looked out for myself.

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Are there more Bethel layoffs in the immediate future?

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

i just saw a post on reddit: ‘wt are prepping the r&f for changes in the march/april meeting workbook’.. in the post the person noted what they read (for march 8) and it mentioned bethel adjustments and reference was made to 2015 when bethelites were let go.. if this happens (yet again) another bunch of people are being sent home to fend for themselves in the big bad world at an advanced age with little to no preparation.

even though this doesn’t surprise me, it could not come at a worse time with a global pandemic and massive job loss everywhere..congregations are already in turmoil because of so many who reached retirement age totally unprepared because they were told armageddon would be here before they reached that age.

this is in addition to all the other ‘needy’ and troubled types in the congregations looking for as$istance.. i hope any bethelites there have a plan and some people they can contact.

LongHairGal

PISTOLPETE:

You are not kidding!

I positively cringe when I think of what could have happened if I were gullible enough to have fallen for that. And because I refused, they made sure I wasn’t invited anywhere. Well, that means nothing now. The sickest irony is that if I were still in the JW religion, I would probably be the last person to be helped by the hateful, judgmental people.👎🏻

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Are there more Bethel layoffs in the immediate future?

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

i just saw a post on reddit: ‘wt are prepping the r&f for changes in the march/april meeting workbook’.. in the post the person noted what they read (for march 8) and it mentioned bethel adjustments and reference was made to 2015 when bethelites were let go.. if this happens (yet again) another bunch of people are being sent home to fend for themselves in the big bad world at an advanced age with little to no preparation.

even though this doesn’t surprise me, it could not come at a worse time with a global pandemic and massive job loss everywhere..congregations are already in turmoil because of so many who reached retirement age totally unprepared because they were told armageddon would be here before they reached that age.

this is in addition to all the other ‘needy’ and troubled types in the congregations looking for as$istance.. i hope any bethelites there have a plan and some people they can contact.

LongHairGal

I just saw a post on Reddit: ‘WT are prepping the R&F for changes in the March/April meeting workbook’.

In the post the person noted what they read (for March 8) and it mentioned Bethel adjustments and reference was made to 2015 when bethelites were let go.

If this happens (yet again) another bunch of people are being sent home to fend for themselves in the big bad world at an advanced age with little to no preparation.

Even though this doesn’t surprise me, it could not come at a worse time with a global pandemic and massive job loss everywhere..Congregations are already in turmoil because of so many who reached Retirement age totally unprepared because they were told Armageddon would be here before they reached that age. This is in addition to all the other ‘needy’ and troubled types in the congregations looking for as$istance.

I hope any bethelites there have a plan and some people they can contact. With what has already happened in the past they have to know this was always a possibility!

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We Knew Many JWs That Weren’t Right....what about xjws??

by minimus in

jw
friends

do you think that when people leave the religion that they are basically now, “normal”?

or do you think it’s more a work in progress?.

LongHairGal

MINIMUS:

It really depends...maybe responsible somewhat older people who weren’t raised in the religion and know how the world works..and carefully planned their Exit..could be considered pretty much normal...They may have an unpleasant memory from time to time but that’s no worse than somebody never a JW who has bad memories from unpleasant experiences in life.

I was not raised a JW and I held onto the job I was criticized for - so I had an easier transition Out... I may have felt ‘strange’ for several months - but the joy of being Free again and reconnecting with estranged relatives before it was too late (priceless) canceled out these feelings.