Posts by LongHairGal

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How did you learn the truth about the truth?

by Iamallcool in

any takers?.

LongHairGal

LAMALLCOOL:

It was a culmination of many things, but that 1995 changed teaching on Generation made me decide I had to get out of the JW religion.

I planned my ‘Fade’ and occupied myself going online and reading their hidden history. I uncovered a mountain of information that was shocking and validated my experiences. I also read ‘Crisis of Conscience’ which was a real eye opener.

My ‘Fade’ was made easier by the bad attitudes and unfriendliness I got from people in the religion because I had a full time job..But, it was worth it to be shunned by these idiots because I’m Retired now.

It was a breath of fresh air to finally be FREE and to pick up where I left off before I set foot in the hall and fell down a rabbit hole.. Good riddance!

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2021-September-27-Announcement-COVID Vaccinations!

by Atlantis in

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2021-september-27-announcement-covid vaccinations.

https://www.filemail.com/d/nvhztnqzuiyilhb.

https://we.tl/t-jn7l6rjrxa.

LongHairGal

WING COMMANDER:

I totally believe as you do and I made a comment about it on the thread about the GB.

Yes, the Baby Boomers and those still around from the generation before them are in the most vulnerable category targeted by Covid. These are the most loyal of the religion’s supporters and probably contribute the most $. If they all died suddenly in the pandemic there wouldn’t just be no more $ but I believe the religion would actually collapse!

I also believe the other reasons for the push to vaccinate are because they fear loss of control without in-person meetings. .Zoom can’t cut it forever and people can turn off their cameras and do other things or be in their pajamas. It’s also possible there is outside pressure on all organizations to get their people vaccinated..But I think the first reason is the REAL pressing one. Just my guess.

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Is the Bethel Farm in Wallkill Co. still there?

by Etude in

i've been out of this loop (or any other) for a while.

can someone tell me if the bethel farm facilities are still there in wallkill county, ny?

i was there for about a year.

LongHairGal

ETUDE:

In reading your profile and the few posts here, you were in Bethel/farm only a few years. Am I right? If so, consider yourself fortunate (in spite of meeting cruel and unfair people) that you didn’t spend decades of your life there like other bethelites who got kicked out in their fifties because of downsizing..Can you imagine?

The story you relate about how the person above you is always ‘right’ even if they are wrong is something I heard before. Because of this there must be a high degree of inefficiency and mistakes at the bethels because somebody’s ego always needs to be placated and some subordinate person needs to learn their ‘place’..In the outside or Real world, this would be no way to run a business. No way could I have ever made it in that place!

Welcome back to the forum!

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A Site About the Governing Body

by Anna Marina in

this site puts the spotlight on gb's teachings, actions and policies.. the governing body of jehovah's witnesses - putting a spotlight on their teachings, actions, and policies.

the latest article examines the reasons why it is not scriptural to apply the two witness rule to child sexual abuse cases.. the “two witness rule”, is it scriptural to apply it to child sexual abuse cases?

- the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

LongHairGal

A WATCHER:

I thought the same thing.

I believe they might be pushing the vaccine for a few reasons:..their best contributors and loyal supporters are Baby Boomers and a few older ones. These people are in the most vulnerable bracket..If they all died suddenly I believe the religion would be done pretty quickly..They probably know this is an eventuality..but they would rather it not happen all at once.

I also think they feel they are losing control without in-person meetings.. Zoom just isn’t cutting it over a long period of time. Somebody could just switch the camera off, etc. They don’t like that.

There is also the possibility that ‘pressure’ is being put on all organizations to comply with getting vaccinated.

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What Congregation Scandal Still Troubles You?

by Sea Breeze in

i was appointed as a regular pioneer in a certain congregation.

in that congregation, a very obese male pioneer seduced a nice looking married pioneer sister who had two teenage sons.

her husband was a ms. both were df'd.

LongHairGal

SEA BREEZE:

I never heard it quite put that way: “that the Kingdom Hall was too hostile of an environment for you to exist in”.

You are absolutely correct and if many on the forum evaluate their experiences, they would have to admit you are right.👍🏻 It is a fear-based religion with a bullying mentality, filled with gossip and vindictive people. All that togetherness is no good and that boatload of ‘friends’ can turn on a dime and rip somebody’s reputation to shreds and cause distress.

Like you, I also left after the 1995 thing. My personal experience was that I felt I walked a gauntlet of critics. They never liked me since I was an independent single working woman who couldn’t be manipulated.

Getting back to the original thought about scandals: without giving too much information I can say I saw things that didn’t sit well with me even if they were not headline making: favoritism and elders covering up for their kids…They think you are just supposed to shut up and pretend everything is rosy. If you don’t like something then it’s YOUR problem. Such phoniness. I could never be around this anymore. Glad the nightmare is over.

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1995 generation change

by Gorb in

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now, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.

it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.

with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.

LongHairGal

ON THE WAY OUT:

I’m glad you took serious notice about getting a career and a way to retire in “this system of things” when that 1995 teaching on Generation came out! That’s twenty six years ago and that’s a serious amount of time to sock money away or be vested in a company’s retirement plan.

This teaching should have also been a wake-up call for everybody else there as well. Those that were not ‘serious’ about their jobs, their future or old age should have taken this as a warning and done something about it ASAP!..If they didn’t that’s too bad.

I was horrified when I heard this Generation teaching and knew it was all over for me as far as staying in the religion..so I planned my ‘Fade’.. I was already gainfully employed and was GLAD I ignored the critics in the religion and held onto my job until Retirement.. I hope these JWs who were critical and thought they were so ‘spiritual’ can pay their bills because I’m glad I’m not around them to hear sob stories and appeals for money.

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No more Questions from MINIMUS

by was a new boy in

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minimus former jw, prolific poster on jwn died.. minimus.

joined 19 years ago.

started 4,139 topics.

LongHairGal

WAS A NEW BOY:

Thanks for thinking of me! I have been reading here but just haven’t posted.

I really do hope this is incorrect news about Minimus because he will be missed.

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Support widows

by road to nowhere in

this weeks meeting part.

boy did they miss it while a hug is nice a scripture will not mow the yard, fix a flat, or pay the bills.

LongHairGal

TRUTH_B_KNOWN & ROAD TO NOWHERE:

Absolutely.. They are not like the religions of Christendom who have soup kitchens and programs to help the poor and needy. But yet they had the balls to criticize people like me with the label ‘unspiritual’ because I worked at a full time job (which I’m glad I held onto until Retirement).

When I was active as a JW I also noticed that any ‘help’ any member got was from other people there. Somebody went around with an envelope privately asking people for money$ plain and simple.. NOTHING ever came from the religion itself.. I hope everybody knows this.

I am glad I ‘Faded’ years ago because I would not tolerate being targeted as a ‘mark’ to give money to all these ‘needy’ types including those who fell for the BS that they didn’t need a career or to provide for their retirement!

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Were you 100 Percent JW?

by Iamallcool in

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were you 100 percent jw?

what caused you to leave the cult?

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LongHairGal

LAMALCOOL:

I suppose not..I was perceived not to be 100% JW since I refused to quit my full time job in order to be in the ministry. This was an all-or-nothing religion but I didn’t know it at the time!.. I ‘Faded’ after that 1995 Generation teaching.

The JW busybodies took it as a personal insult that I didn’t cave in to their peer pressure….Why else would they shun or make sure I was hardly invited anywhere?

The sobering reality is I would not be Retired today if I had listened back then, so their insults mean nothing.

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Since You Have Left The Religion Are You Happier?

by minimus in

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i realize that some activist exjws really don’t seem to be happy in life.

they finally got away from the organization and yet seem still negatively connected to it.

some exjws are always upset because of what the “truth “ did to their lives, which is understandable.

LongHairGal

MINIMUS:

Yes, absolutely happier. Freedom. Reconnecting with estranged family and relatives before it was too late. Priceless.

However, it still makes me cringe though when I think of what COULD have happened if I were more gullible and fell for pressure to quit my full time job to pursue ‘full time ministry’!.. I wouldn’t be Retired today if I had! ..This is a very sobering thought.

I, thankfully, was not raised in the religion and have no family there so I don’t have to deal with family ‘shunning me’. The stories I have read on the forum by other ex-JWs are heartbreaking.. It’s hard to fathom the tragedy that people are going to their graves after not speaking to their flesh and blood for decades just because somebody left a religion (which was not just a belief but a lifestyle)!