Posts by LongHairGal

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Hi im df Nick in Arizona

by Nick-Arizona in

i'm from california.

i'm in arizona.

i was df twice.

LongHairGal

Hi NICK in ARIZONA:

Welcome to the forum!

I am a twenty-one year ‘Fader’ from the Witness religion. I was raised Catholic with a decent childhood who didn’t miss out on things a JW would…So, I probably had an easier transition back into the Real world after getting myself out of this rabbit hole/trap I mistakenly stepped into!

MARBLES:

That is a good assessment of the whole thing. Count yourself lucky you never got involved with the JWs as you were spared very much mental anguish among other things! 👍🏻

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The only man in the room - Kennedy 1962

by slimboyfat in

in the current situation, it’s worth listening to this podcast about nuclear near misses.

the cuban missile crisis was only one example, but is worth considering.

in 1962 the united states and russia went eyeball to eyeball over russia’s military base in cuba.

LongHairGal

SLIMBOYFAT:

Yes, I remember that scary time period of the Cuban Missile Crisis!!

I was a little kid in grade school and we had duck-and-cover drills, either under our desks or going in the hallway with our coats over our heads as we leaned against the wall…I was very intuitive and felt the danger and concern in the air. I remember the murmuring of adults I overheard at church, etc..

I’m sure some other people on the forum remember it was about this time that everybody started to see those bright yellow and black “Fallout Shelter” signs that were posted on certain buildings..my school being one of them!

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Pat Robertson makes one last ''doomsday prediction''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

pat roberston,92, comes out of his million dollar mansion ( which his loyal followers paid for ) to continue his doomsday prediction.

pat needs to make one last appearance to show his followers he was right all along.

after all his failed predictions on his ''700 club,'' pat needs to show his followers that this ''doomsday prediction'' is a bible prophecy.

LongHairGal

JHINE:

The USA is supposedly the land of religious freedom (last time I checked). Many have fled here from Europe and elsewhere over the last century or so up until now either because they could not practice their religion or were in fear for their lives because of it.

The downside to this is that there is a proliferation of every type of religion, sect, cult, movement, group or whatever you want to call it. Whether anybody likes this or not or rolls their eyes this is the way it is (until it isn’t). Freedom is good but unfortunately can be taken advantage of.

I don’t consider myself at this point to be a religious person. I feel that religions should have a material and tangible benefit to the public if they don’t pay taxes! (And so-called free bible studies doesn’t cut it, in my opinion.) They better have material and not ‘spiritual’ 🙄 programs to help the needy and the youth in the community like some churches in Christendom do.

Otherwise they should not be allowed to exist.

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Fearmongering news on JW.ORG : Russia Invades Ukraine

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

russia invades ukraine.

in the early morning hours of february 24, 2022, russia began a military invasion of ukraine, despite the efforts of world leaders to avoid war.

how might this military conflict affect the world?

LongHairGal

RULES & REGULATIONS:

I was not yet in the JW religion in 1975. I was blissfully unaware of this fiasco and living my life in the Catholic religion and working and enjoying life like a normal young adult.

I was enticed in several years later. The rest is history. I’m Glad I’m out now. It’s sad to read about what went on pre-1975 in the religion and how JWs sold businesses, homes, etc…only to find out it was all for nothing. I’m glad a huge chunk of people never came back to the religion. (The old adage of fool me once..). The religion’s cleverly worded response you quoted is, of course, denial on their part. Just where did the rank & file get the idea from??

But, getting back to the latest world event in the Ukraine:..Witnesses and any of these other religions should be careful what they wish for.. They have no idea what they will suffer. I have No wish to live through an end of the world scenario and I’m sure most sane, sensible people would not want to either!

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Fearmongering news on JW.ORG : Russia Invades Ukraine

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

russia invades ukraine.

in the early morning hours of february 24, 2022, russia began a military invasion of ukraine, despite the efforts of world leaders to avoid war.

how might this military conflict affect the world?

LongHairGal

ROAD TO NOWHERE:

Yes. When I began my ‘Fade’ from the JW religion twenty-one years ago I made peace with the idea that people get old and die.

I did NOT believe the religion’s fantasy and felt it was an unhealthy trick to play on my mind. Yes, in my opinion the Witnesses are angry and dismayed they have reached old age and they are not in their promised ‘paradise’!..To boot, those of them who never got decent jobs/careers and preferred to be in the ministry are now freaking out because they are utterly unprepared for retirement!

I sincerely hope for everybody’s sake this Ukrainian conflict does not become the worldwide disaster certain people are selfishly hoping for because of their own misery!!

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Fearmongering news on JW.ORG : Russia Invades Ukraine

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

russia invades ukraine.

in the early morning hours of february 24, 2022, russia began a military invasion of ukraine, despite the efforts of world leaders to avoid war.

how might this military conflict affect the world?

LongHairGal

RULES & REGULATIONS:

It’s too bad if anybody (in ANY fundamentalist religion/radical Christianity) is wishing and hoping that this conflict in Ukraine be the ‘End’ of the world!

Of course, the JWs have always been wishing for the end to come.

However, for the last few years I detected an amped-up wishing for the End by JWs who didn’t prepare or save for retirement (because of faulty advice)..and don’t want to deal with the consequences!! This anger and desperation, I believe, is really at the heart of why so many JWs want the End to come - and to hell with everybody else!

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Are Jehovahs Witnesses a cult?

by GoverningBody in

this question has been presented many times throughout the years.

somewhat recently, there has been much talk surrounding the "bite method" :.

"bite” stands for behavior, information, thought, and emotional control.. some examples were thrown at me, such as the decisions of who we associate with, discouraging any worldy media, encouraging our brothers and sisters to report any of our misbehaviours to the elders, our rejection of criticism on the truth, shunning etc.. what do we think about this?.

LongHairGal

CARLA:

I imagine it must’ve been hard to see the man you married change so drastically after he joined the Witness religion!

I also believe the religion fits the definition of a cult. What makes them so dangerous is how seemingly harmless they appear to be on the outside..They just don’t seem anything like those other famous cults like Jonestown or Waco. The problem with the JWs comes later with the lifestyle when you’re in the thick of it.

Also, the problem with the JWs is that not everybody is equally damaged by it, in my observation..It’s hit and miss and depends on who you are!..Some people have a fairly happy life there; others might be devastated. For example: it’s harder on women.. IF a woman does not get married OR get a career - she ends up poor if she follows the nonsense about ‘pioneering’..While this can also happen to a man, unfortunately, we live in a man’s world and a woman will end up worse off.

I also agree that not every religion is a cult by today’s definition. I was raised Roman Catholic and could see the contrast. As you said, in most churches you can disagree about certain things and not be viewed as ‘evil’ 🙄 like in the JWs.

Yes, it’s funny you said JWs are like ‘body snatchers’. But, thankfully, in my case, I got MY body the hell out of there 👍🏻.

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An upcoming Watchtower article saying if people Pioneer Jehovah will provide!

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

i saw the post on reddit and the thread got many responses..can anybody believe the religion is still saying this??

it has to be as plain as day that so many jws are poor and struggling today because they never got a career or decent job years ago.. sadly, there are still witnesses who believe money will fall from heaven if they are in the full-time ministry.

they expect some miracle to occur..but, we all know the truth: people in the congregation will be hit up for yet more money for another bunch of irresponsible people pursuing poverty.

LongHairGal

DAVROS:

What you brought out is precisely why I am GLAD I am no longer in the JW religion. I have No intention of being a sitting duck targeted to give money to irresponsible people who never worked.

I would not do this even if I HADN’T been shunned for having a full-time job!

It is sad though about all the many Witnesses over the years who fell for this great big Con that they didn’t have to work hard, plan and save for retirement like normal people do. If I had also fallen for this, what predicament would I be in today??

They were led to believe they were somehow going to escape this responsibility (like they were going to ‘escape’ death and waltz into the ‘New System’)..I’m sorry, but I’d run from them. In fact, I would never go anywhere I was walking a gauntlet of panhandlers and needy with their hands out.

Brothers with businesses (and the religion they slaved for) are going to have to help them somehow!..Good luck!

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An upcoming Watchtower article saying if people Pioneer Jehovah will provide!

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

i saw the post on reddit and the thread got many responses..can anybody believe the religion is still saying this??

it has to be as plain as day that so many jws are poor and struggling today because they never got a career or decent job years ago.. sadly, there are still witnesses who believe money will fall from heaven if they are in the full-time ministry.

they expect some miracle to occur..but, we all know the truth: people in the congregation will be hit up for yet more money for another bunch of irresponsible people pursuing poverty.

LongHairGal

FFGHOST:

That is such a sad story you tell about this older couple.

The point being:..it’s not that we don’t all eventually get sick and die. It’s that Witnesses who take the foolish gamble they did have put themselves through UNNECESSARY hardship and struggle IN THEIR OLD AGE. Their bodies are weaker with diminished stamina and they find themselves in many cases having to do manual labor (which is probably all they are qualified to do and maybe the only work available)..They are forced to function as though they were still 45 years old !!!

This is not the only story I have heard of about JWs selling homes and living off the proceeds to pioneer…This all sounds like a repeat of what Witnesses did before 1975. Maybe if the religion didn’t try to hide this embarrassing fiasco there would be fewer people repeating the same foolish mistakes today. In a similar vein, I have also heard of JWs who dropped out of the workforce before their actual retirement age to go live in exotic locales. I think they imagined the money they saved would last until ‘Armageddon’. But, rumor has it they were asking the ‘friends’ to send them money! This is an awful predicament, in my opinion, for people over 60 years of age to find themselves in. 👎

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An upcoming Watchtower article saying if people Pioneer Jehovah will provide!

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

i saw the post on reddit and the thread got many responses..can anybody believe the religion is still saying this??

it has to be as plain as day that so many jws are poor and struggling today because they never got a career or decent job years ago.. sadly, there are still witnesses who believe money will fall from heaven if they are in the full-time ministry.

they expect some miracle to occur..but, we all know the truth: people in the congregation will be hit up for yet more money for another bunch of irresponsible people pursuing poverty.

LongHairGal

DREARYWEATHER:

Much of what you say could probably be true in a few instances.

Some JWs MIGHT be poor even if they were in another religion..It is also true that hard work, financial sense and planning are not the ‘forte’ of everybody..However, you are ignoring the fact that the Witness religion encourages this ignorance to a large degree! Also, by social isolation the JWs don’t get to pick up on certain practical knowledge that other people acquire at early ages.

I was not raised a JW and had to learn financial sense and planning. It certainly was not my natural ‘forte’.🙄

The Witnesses demonize college and careers. You are also ignoring that they engender hateful attitudes in the congregation and cause people to be shunned or not invited. This is not benign or harmless..I was Catholic and didn’t experience this..Sorry to tell you but the JWs look far worse than the other religions of Christendom.

And, lastly, the part about OTHER people in congregations being hit up for money for people who don’t want to work is exactly what’s happening in the JWs..I don’t believe this would be viewed favorably in other religions! This is being needy because of laziness or stupidity - not because of hardship or tragedy!

In fact, the priest would give a sermon from the pulpit telling people they should look for work. Even Jesus’s followers had occupations and supported themselves!