LongHairGal

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  New Here!

  by puppylove in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, been lurking and decided to join in.. nice to see everyone from other forums, especially you, redhorsewoman!

  love,.

  puppylove.

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  LongHairGal

  SMIDDY3 & SKIN:

  Yes, it would seem the original poster named Puppylove left the building ages ago.

  Their last post was 19 years ago!
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  Jehovah's Witnesses - Where is Your Money Going?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after discouraging and in many instances prohibiting jw's from getting an education, like in computer graphics, film-making and design, the wt is employing these kinds of professionals and throwing vast sums of money at their new film-making adventures doubtless from all the properties they confiscated, sold that the local members paid for.

  kim and mikey talk about this primarily starting at 13:15https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqafxmsjirk&ab_channel=kimmikey .

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  LongHairGal

  GORB:

  A good deed? You mean like food pantries and soup kitchens and other such things to help the needy? I have heard other churches in Christendom have these charitable services.

  But, nobody should hold their breath waiting for the JW religion to have any of these things..I would be shocked if it ever happened. It’s ironic really since many of their followers are needy because they were told by the religion they didn’t need careers or retirement planning because ‘Armageddon’ would be here. They were told it would be better to spend their time in the full time ministry. 🙄
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  Jehovah's Witnesses - Where is Your Money Going?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after discouraging and in many instances prohibiting jw's from getting an education, like in computer graphics, film-making and design, the wt is employing these kinds of professionals and throwing vast sums of money at their new film-making adventures doubtless from all the properties they confiscated, sold that the local members paid for.

  kim and mikey talk about this primarily starting at 13:15https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqafxmsjirk&ab_channel=kimmikey .

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  LongHairGal

  FOOLEDNOMORE:

  I’m glad your grandparents weren’t JWs and encouraged you to get an education. I’m grateful my non-JW family also encouraged college.

  I never got any anti-college/anti-career vibes from anybody in my life until I set foot in the Witness religion. But, thankfully, I never took anything they said seriously and let their foolish talk go in one ear and out the other! I did not follow in the footsteps of other women in the religion and very glad today I did not.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses - Where is Your Money Going?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after discouraging and in many instances prohibiting jw's from getting an education, like in computer graphics, film-making and design, the wt is employing these kinds of professionals and throwing vast sums of money at their new film-making adventures doubtless from all the properties they confiscated, sold that the local members paid for.

  kim and mikey talk about this primarily starting at 13:15https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqafxmsjirk&ab_channel=kimmikey .

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  LongHairGal

  SEA BREEZE:

  I’m glad you got your education though.

  Yes, it certainly appears as you say that JWs ‘seem to glorify ignorance as if it is some sort of goal to attain’.. I think they want people there who are acceptably ignorant who will never complain or speak up about anything.

  As far as multi-generational JWs being intimidated into not getting college for themselves or their children by elders and other busybodies, I might understand this a generation ago before the computer age. But today? When you talk about ‘avoiding conflict’ and ‘keeping the peace’, no offense but this sounds cowardly and makes a man in the religion not the master of his OWN household. It sounds like somebody else is the master in HIS home (and maybe even bedroom). Sounds unmanly and like he has no balls either.

  I understand that to somebody like myself not raised in the JW religion this mentality is outrageous and unacceptable. The rest of the world would feel the same way.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses - Where is Your Money Going?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after discouraging and in many instances prohibiting jw's from getting an education, like in computer graphics, film-making and design, the wt is employing these kinds of professionals and throwing vast sums of money at their new film-making adventures doubtless from all the properties they confiscated, sold that the local members paid for.

  kim and mikey talk about this primarily starting at 13:15https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqafxmsjirk&ab_channel=kimmikey .

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  LongHairGal

  SEA BREEZE:

  It’s hard to believe that even at this LATE date that some JWs are still listening to stupid advice to NOT get college or some higher education.

  I really don’t have any respect or regard for any adult there who denies their intelligent child a college education. Anybody who thinks idiot ‘privileges’ and opinions of elders means anything is a fool with sh#t for brains…I realize some kids are piss-poor students and not college material. But, if the child gets decent grades there is no excuse.
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  “The United Socialist States of America?”

  by Fisherman in

  1. social
  2. current

  when i was growing up, some people were on welfare but the vast majority were working people that paid their own rent, doctor’s bills, medicine, food, etc.

  —and saved money.

  so, a working person did not need financial help from the government if they didn’t have vices.

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  LongHairGal

  Let everyone not forget for one minute that millions of jobs disappeared and the far reaching effects that resulted. This happened since the 1960s - and under both political parties no matter who was in office.

  Many jobs went overseas and this should not have been allowed to happen.

  This is the reason for the economy being the way it is now. A ‘gig’ economy with no benefits? Don’t make me laugh.

  Nobody really began to notice though until recent decades when even call centers went overseas. I’m sorry for younger people starting out in life..This is so unfair.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses and Apostates

  by tfjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jehovah's witnesses basically define the term "apostate" as someone who was once a member of the "organization" (a jehovah's witness) but no longer follows the teachings, rules, regulations and practices.

  the society gives their official definition in the following manner: "apostasy is abandoning or deserting the worship and service of god, actually a rebellion against jehovah god.

  some apostates profess to know and serve god but reject teachings or requirements set out in his word.

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  LongHairGal

  The word ‘apostate’ is a stupid word thrown around that doesn’t mean anything to me.

  I was supposedly an ‘apostate’ when I got involved with the JWs after being raised a Roman Catholic. Well, now I’m Out of the Witnesses.
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  Upbringing

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was brought up as a born-in(tm) here in the uk.

  it wasn't until i was 50 that the scales fell from my eyes, i woke up, got da'd from the cult and my wife was advised to leave me by the elders whom i had served with on the boe.

  one of which i know wanted to schtupf her.

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  LongHairGal

  PUNKOFNICE:

  I think part of the reason for your anger is that people in general are not going to see justice as far as the religion is concerned.. It’s like an amoeba with an ever changing face. Also, nobody can ever give us back wasted time.

  MAGNUM:

  I agree with how you feel about people who still remain in the JW religion. My few friends who remain there are single women who believed the B.S. about not getting decent jobs/careers because of peer pressure/intimidation especially on women and also that ‘Armageddon was near’. Thankfully, I resisted this but boy was I resented!

  They are now over sixty and considered Very low income or poor. One gets by with monetary help from non-Witness family. The others, I suspect, get ‘assistance’ of some sort here and there by the ‘brothers’. I believe these women stayed in the religion too long and it may be too late for them to start over somewhere else. None of us was born-in but it was easier for me to leave..I also suspect there are deeply emotional issues with them and they couldn’t bear being ‘out’ or being disapproved of. 🙄

  All in all, I am convinced some JWs do not have what it takes to leave and stand on their own two feet in the world. I don’t compare myself to anybody else. I am just Glad that I left and that I wisely hung onto that job (that I was hated for) until Retirement.
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  1985 and baptism...I wish I had read this before today

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.

  i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.

  in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.

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  LongHairGal

  TONUS:

  So, it IS said in public right before somebody goes in the water? This is what I’m understanding and I certainly don’t know never having witnessed anybody being baptized.

  Too late for a candidate to back out and publicly disappoint their adoring family and ‘friends’, don’t you think? How sneaky.

  As I said, I was ‘baptized’ before they changed these questions and format. But, it was all a crock of sh#t anyway and redundant since I already WAS baptized Catholic when I was a baby. As far as I’m concerned NOW, that’s the only one that was ever valid or means anything to me.
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  1985 and baptism...I wish I had read this before today

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.

  i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.

  in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.

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  LongHairGal

  I was baptized before they changed these questions.

  If I’m not mistaken, and somebody correct me if I’m wrong, aren’t these questions asked just before the person is dunked in the water?

  If so, it’s a little late don’t you think? A person who even notices this sneaky thing because of being nervous and with all the fanfare would be less likely to say “Hey, what the hell is this? I’m not getting baptized”.