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  Why Not Celebrate Christmas?

  by Mum in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, jw's don't celebrate christmas or other holidays.

  as bill cetnar once said, there are two reasons for everything: the reason they tell you, and the real reason.

  they will tell you it's because christmas is "pagan" and can lead to all sorts of licentious conduct (like drinking too much macallan scotch?)..

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  FISHERMAN:

  I agreed with your explanation up until you said: “the FDS having God given authority over the JW..” But, I’m not getting into it.

  But thanks for seeing that they have more than one reason why they don’t want JWs to celebrate holidays.. Of course, they won’t say this second reason out loud!

  Not to derail the thread: but it’s kind of similar to their discouraging followers from going to college. Their real reason is that they dislike educated people because they are ‘harder to counsel’. I had an elder admit this.

  But, getting back to the holidays, there’s the reason they state publicly - and then there’s the REAL reason that is less agreeable to hear.
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  The real story on why The Watchtower society lost a Kingdom hall in Bonham ,Texas.!

  by koolaid-man in

  1. jw
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  what happened in bonham, texas?

  : the body of elders and the majority of the congregation decided to leave the watch tower organization.

  and with that, they took the kingdom hall.

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  THOMAS MORE:

  I also do not believe their numbers are 8.5 million publishers. If anything, maybe it’s half that - more or less.

  And, that’s not taking into account the unknown number of how many JWs there are ‘faking it’ so they can associate with their families there.
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  Why Not Celebrate Christmas?

  by Mum in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, jw's don't celebrate christmas or other holidays.

  as bill cetnar once said, there are two reasons for everything: the reason they tell you, and the real reason.

  they will tell you it's because christmas is "pagan" and can lead to all sorts of licentious conduct (like drinking too much macallan scotch?)..

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  LongHairGal

  MUM:

  I’ve said this elsewhere. My opinion of JWs not approving of the holidays is not ‘just’ because they say the holidays are ‘pagan’.. I think that’s a convenient surface excuse.

  Everything has pagan origins including the calendar among other things. My experience in the JW religion led me to believe they don’t want you celebrating the holidays because they do not want you associating with your non-Witness relatives and friends. I believe they are afraid of you experiencing unconditional love and friendship from people who are not judging you.. So, I believe this is about isolating and separating the JW. This is likely the REAL reason.. I especially believe this to be true in my case back when I was in.

  They are afraid you might not want to remain in the JW religion once you catch on!
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  Best Xmas Songs

  by peacefulpete in

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  my favorites.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsdg9qtjzzi.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uudu66e_vw.

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  LongHairGal

  I like the old fashioned Christmas songs I heard when I was a child the most: Home for the Holidays, It’s the Most Wonderful Time of the Year, Jingle Bell Rock, etc. I also like a few more modern ones.

  Being as I was raised Catholic I remember the religious songs: Hark the Herald Angels Sing. I guess even The Little Drummer Boy is religious. I love them all even the somewhat ‘less traditional’ ones like Santa Baby. 😊
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  Broadcast November

  by Hellothere in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what was your opinion about november broadcast with tony morris( maeby it's december)?

  saw small parts of it.

  i thought it was extrem desperation.

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  LongHairGal

  MUM:

  Yeah, like not going to the meetings..🤣
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  Watchtower Study : Jehovah Is Helping You To Succeed

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | january 2023. study article 3. jehovah is helping you to succeed.

  how jehovah makes you successful.

  13. does jehovah intervene in every situation we face?

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  FEDUP:

  Again, sorry about your parents and how they were cast aside and ignored in their old age - after you once said ALL they did for the religion.

  In my case, I’d never expect anything from the congregation because they never got so much as the right time from me.🤣 But, that’s what happens when you shun people because of their jobs.

  In the OP, who knows if this is a real person. While I don’t doubt that sometimes the ‘Friends’ could be kind bringing over soup, etc., in my opinion the article might give a wrong impression to people in the hall who have unrealistic expectations about other JWs. For instance: they might imagine somebody there is going to pay their bills.

  I knew I was on my own and had to look after myself.
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  1969 Awake on Education - A Sore Spot for Me

  by NotBlind in

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  my father would have started college 49 years ago this week.

  about three months earlier, the week he graduated high school, the awake!

  magazine came out with some very clear direction to teenagers.

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  LongHairGal

  I decided to bump this four year old thread to the top. The OP made an excellent post. It’s one of the best I’ve read on this subject. There are so many new posters on the forum in the last few years.

  This topic about JWs who never got a career or a good job decades ago and are suffering this very day has been mentioned lately. There are TOO many needy people scraping by in the religion. Sadly, this 1969 Awake article might have been the reason why in some cases.
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  Keep telling yourself that!

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the latest copy of the elders textbook someone kindly made available to us on this website, i see that "independently organized meetings for spiritual feeding" are still not allowed.

  no wonder because independent research would let the scales fall from the eyes.. the gb still insisting that they are guided by the (always lower case) holy spirit and the bible!!

  not that the rank and file members need the bible or holy spirit themselves because they are fed through meetings, conventions, assemblies, jw broadcasting and the publications.

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  LOST IN THE FOG:

  After what happened in the early 1980s with some JWs who talked or studied privately, and ended up leaving the religion - there was a crackdown on independent groups.
  

  It didn’t matter how well-intentioned anything appeared. If it wasn’t under the supervision of the control freaks in the hall they wanted it stopped. They are THAT afraid of anybody questioning or thinking on their own.
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  Awesome YouTube Video About The Dangers Of Watchtower & Jehovah’s Witnesses w/ 5 Million Views

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this youtube video about the dangers of the watchtower and jehovah’s witnesses is less than a year old and already approaching 5 million views...approximately 21 thousand visits a day!.

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gdwhdj7plwo.

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  FISHERMAN:

  The people I was referring were victims in some fashion - not anybody who committed ‘immorality’, like the bunch of people you are referring to who want to do ‘whatever the heck they want’.. You take care as well.
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  Awesome YouTube Video About The Dangers Of Watchtower & Jehovah’s Witnesses w/ 5 Million Views

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this youtube video about the dangers of the watchtower and jehovah’s witnesses is less than a year old and already approaching 5 million views...approximately 21 thousand visits a day!.

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gdwhdj7plwo.

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  LongHairGal

  FISHERMAN:

  We aren’t talking about the 40k and more people that you claim are ‘kicked out’ for ‘adultery, sex related sins, drug use, etc.’. I’m also aware of people who left through the back door. I assume this means Fading. I did this. I wasn’t guilty of ANY of the above ‘sins’. I left because of the 1995 Generation teaching. I was done with it. Period.

  I see you take offense about the term ‘in danger and trapped’. This term may not apply to adults who voluntarily walk out but it certainly WOULD apply to a minor trapped in a bad situation. Also, since the JW religion isolates people, they perceive they have nowhere to go. If they are also victims of shunning the mental anguish is double. I get the sense you don’t see anything wrong with shunning.

  When you talk about the message and ‘God punishes’ - are you talking about the future or now? If you are talking about now, how dare anybody there be presumptuous enough to imagine they have the right.

  As far as ‘getting even’: I am sure many people feel this way because of how they were treated. Thankfully, I wasn’t raised a JW and never allowed them to dictate to me about my job. Others, unfortunately, listened to their detriment and are suffering today. I can only imagine how they must feel.