now they suddenly examine the context of these scriptures and have come to the conclusion that it only applies to apostates and those who continue in serious sin???????.
there are families torn apart by their shunning policies and some have said the gb are wrong and these scriptures only apply to those carrying on in serious sin?
but no for the last several decades families have been ripped apart for lifelong shunning just because some don’t want to be jws anymore.. the lawsuits that are to come will not make up for life long relationships being ruined.
JEHOVAXX:
Typo above:..It should not read ‘count’ but should read ‘could there be justice?’ I might also add would there ever be justice? This remains to be seen.
Also, with regard to what is said about serious sin: the JW religion probably also defines serious sin as somebody who doesn’t believe in them. By that standard anybody living can fall into this category.
now they suddenly examine the context of these scriptures and have come to the conclusion that it only applies to apostates and those who continue in serious sin???????.
there are families torn apart by their shunning policies and some have said the gb are wrong and these scriptures only apply to those carrying on in serious sin?
but no for the last several decades families have been ripped apart for lifelong shunning just because some don’t want to be jws anymore.. the lawsuits that are to come will not make up for life long relationships being ruined.
JEHOVAXX:
Somebody downvoted your post. I made sure I upvoted it.
I am so grateful to God that I was not raised in this religion - nor did I listen to everything they said.. I’m a longtime ‘Fader’ and my experience does not compare to what many people on here have gone through. I got a few ‘bruises’ along the way.. The only shunning I may experience is from aging Witness Baby Boomers who I could barely recognize if I saw them in the store!
These recent shocking changes and those yet to come in the religion are an about-face to what they’ve believed for many decades - and only proves what they taught was NOT from the Bible but merely opinions of arrogant men who have no regard for anybody.
Who knows what’s going to happen with regard to any lawsuits? As you said, surely nothing would make up for decades of lost time and the thousands of ruined family relationships in many places.. We won’t even go into the suicides. Count there ever be justice?
Again, I’m Glad to be long out of the JWs and best regards to everybody!
you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
HALCON:
I like crosses and wear one occasionally.
But, then again, maybe you can’t take the Catholic out of somebody.. This was another JW teaching I didn’t quite accept.
jw's can now talk to disfellowshipped friends & relatives, in order to encourage them back to the k.h.
and to welcome any d/f'd ones who turn up at the k.h.. https://www.jw.borg/download/?docid=1112024005&langwritten=asl.
remove the b in the borg.
Yes, everybody. But this is all too little and too late.
It is too late to make a good impression. Countless JWs had ruined lives because of policies.. I might be a little impressed if the religion said it was going to open a food pantry or something similar - to help some JWs in dire straits for following bad advice not to get careers! I said a ‘little’ impressed. There is no making whole the countless JWs who went to their graves!
But, I’m just daydreaming because I doubt THIS particular change would ever come about.. Somebody tell me if it ever does.
you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
VIDIOT:
Is that the Grinch who stole Christmas??
Maybe he stole the JWs’ Paradise as well.
you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
WING COMMANDER:
Maybe others feel differently, but I’m not attracted in the slightest! It wouldn’t matter what things the Witnesses got rid of.
The fact of the matter is that it’s too late to try to make a good impression. Some people’s lives were impacted for the worse and ruined in some cases.. I’m lucky I never listened and escaped with just a few ‘bruises’.
I am sure die-hard JWs are freaking out wondering what is happening.
I believe some of this is probably a reaction to what happened in Norway and maybe other changes will happen.. While it might keep some in, other JWs will be headed for the door anyway. Good riddance to it.
we still have quite a few elderly here that came in as young families in the late 1960's-early 70's because soon, yes very soon they would enter the new system and never grow old.
it's now one year away from 50 years since 1975. just in the last couple years i've seen them come down with alzheimer's, cancer, brain tumors, becoming invalid etc.
the children of them that are now around 60 are just so distraught at seeing their parents deteriorate.
NOW WHAT?
Exercise patience?! Yeah, they have their nerve.. I guess the religion doesn’t want to hear complaining or murmuring since they can’t deliver the ‘paradise’ they promised everybody - especially those who never planned for their senior years.
I ‘Faded’ years ago so I’m not affected by what goes on there.. And I’m thankful that whatever youth I had left wasn’t spent in some Kingdom Hall.. It must be terrible to be sitting there waiting on promises and growing old. To be honest, I don’t think I ever truly believed their talk about how people wouldn’t get old.
These now elderly JWs from the ‘75 era are probably the ones propping up the religion. Them and the rest of the younger baby boomers will be hanging on til the end.
personally i think they gonna realise god's not backing org.
that idea gonna get even more established in their minds.
i think the real selling of kingdom hall gonna start then.
NOT FORMER:
How things have changed over the decades!
The nature of the cases now is that the Witnesses are not the victims anymore! No, now it appears they are in the role of ‘bad guy’ and trampling somebody else’s human rights.
If this religion was running the whole show there would be a world-wide dictatorship.
for those of you who are pimo, how do you feel it may be effecting your mental and physical health?
is it easy to pretend to be what you are not?
how do you feel about falsely supporting the pimi which builds them up and therefore an org you don't believe in?
WOKENFROMJWCULT:
I assume you are referring to the 1995 changed Generation teaching! One might have thought it would bring things down like a House of Cards, but that was not to be!
This certainly woke me up and I felt like I had been punched in the gut when I heard it. I knew then and there I had to get out and that we were being strung along like fools.. I was super right to have held onto my job.. I made plans to ‘Fade’.
While some Witnesses remained ‘asleep’, other thinking JWs left the religion in the years after that.. Some JWs who stayed (maybe PIMO) realized they needed to get better jobs because they certainly were going to grow old ‘in this system of things’.
This was twenty nine years ago and certainly somebody would have been able to do something to prepare financially in that amount of time.. I’m glad for their sake if some JWs did!
hi, i was df'd in jan 09. have not been in touch much with the jws apart from a few memorials i went to.. what with all the online presence they have nowadays, it just feels like a totally different religion.
i have seen them with their tablets and phones at the hall, hardly any physical bibles or books at all, makes me think how ai (or the borg) could so easily change words and phrasing in the bible to suit them without making a big deal of it, like 'a new light' talk or wt article.
doctrinally has much changed since 2009?.
KERRY KING:
While the religion isn’t worthy of a ‘second thought’, there were major changes in beliefs in the Annual Meeting of 2023.. Some older die-hards are very bothered by this.
For one thing, the religion did away with the hundred year old requirement for regular publishers to count time and submit a slip.. This bothered me because I was judged over this.. Thank God I never listened. They also said something along the lines of how people can repent at the last minute. There were other things I can’t remember at the moment but if you do some digging on here you can find some threads that explain everything more thoroughly.
Oh, last but not least, beards are finally allowed!🙄
