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  For all JW's: Stop calling others "apostates."

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. beliefs

  if you don't want to be thrown into gehenna, read what your own faithful evil slave & christ say:.

  cj chap.

  3 p. 110 chapter 3 - "jesus christ said: “whoever says, ‘you despicable fool!’ (apostate) will be liable to the fiery gehenna.” (matt.

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  LongHairGal

  Many good points.

  The word ‘apostate’ never meant much to me. I was technically an ‘apostate’ 🙄 when I became a Witness because I was raised Roman Catholic.

  I have read of other religions using this word. If Jehovah’s Witnesses were more educated as a group and actually read books, this word would have no power over them.. These morons act like it means the ‘Boogie man’. They are so eager to shun or call people names.

  This is why I have no pity for those over-righteous rank & file Witnesses who are somewhat upset at having the rug pulled out from under them with all the religion’s recent changes - and those changes that are probably yet to come!
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  Things you can not say in "field service" anymore.

  by greenhornet in

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  2. friends

  many years ago we would be on someone's doorstep, when waiting for the house holder to come to the door we say something like ... yea after the big a this is going to be my house.

  imagine saying that today with the common use of doorbell cameras and the squatting problem .

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  DAGNEY:

  Nice to see you as well.

  Just when I thought I was going to slow down posting - all these new changes in the Witness religion came out.. How could I not comment? That one change about no longer submitting a FS time report affected me personally as I was judged over working full-time. Glad I never listened.

  The religion cannot ever be forgiven for engendering hateful attitudes and class distinctions.. Regarding the unkind remarks of JWs we worked with out in service commenting on people’s affluence, all they learned was judgmentalism and hate so this is the fruitage of it.
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  Things you can not say in "field service" anymore.

  by greenhornet in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many years ago we would be on someone's doorstep, when waiting for the house holder to come to the door we say something like ... yea after the big a this is going to be my house.

  imagine saying that today with the common use of doorbell cameras and the squatting problem .

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  BALAAMSASS2:

  I also remember hearing that presumptuously stupid statement about ‘getting somebody’s home or property’ after Armageddon. It’s nice to know some moron Witness who was overheard got told off by a resident.

  I recall a time I went door to door with a sister. It was an affluent neighborhood. Not millionaire row but above-average. I mentioned how lovely, etc. and the sister said: “they are having their reward in full”.

  In my heart I disagreed with her and felt that just because some do well and have nice things, doesn’t mean they deserve to be punished for it. I never begrudged anybody who was well-off or who had more than I did. In my opinion, too many Witnesses were like this… They pioneered and did without and it seemed they hated others who didn’t.

  I wondered if they were having their ‘reward in full’ looking down on others with their shunning and secret gatherings!
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  Who is Charles Sunutko?

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the spring of 1967 district overseer charles sunutko gave in sheboygan, wisconsin, the talk, "serving with everlasting life in view"

  a recording of that talk is available on the internet at several places, easily found by a google search.. but who is (was?

  ) charles sunutko?.

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  THOMAS MORE:

  Yes, I ignored them but I paid the ‘price’ of being shunned and not invited much! I was pretty much ‘panned’ as they would say.. I was hated for not following the crowd. I remember a naive sister once saying I ‘should get with the program’. I’d be in bad shape today if I got with their program!🙄 Maybe my non-Witness upbringing saved me and I remembered some wise things my Dad said.

  Maybe a few of the elderly took ‘pity’ on me and invited me once in a while, and that was nice of them.

  I am sorry for any Witnesses who pioneered back then and didn’t plan who finally wake up. What are they supposed to do??? . I’m sure in hindsight they would have planned differently. They’d trade those worthless dinners/gatherings in a heartbeat - and instead would have paid into SS and had a 401K! ..I wish them luck and hope they get some satisfaction or justice, etc.
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  Advice on fade?

  by NotNorwich in

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  hello, i’ve just joined here and am hoping for some advice.

  i was baptised a long time ago but left soon after (da).. i recently returned and have a bible study.

  was reinstated about a year ago.

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  NOTNORWICH:

  To do a ‘Fade’ from the JW religion you must plan ahead.

  First thing, of course, is keep QUIET.. Say nothing to anybody and never discuss doctrines.. YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME.. Act as normal as you possibly can around these people and spend as little time as possible.

  For starters, some must establish contacts outside the religion (job, housing) if they don’t already have.. Everybody’s situation is different, and it might be harder for some JWs than others depending on how much privacy someone actually has. Also, if somebody works for Witnesses they must be VERY careful.

  In my case, I was not raised a Witness and worked full-time and lived on my own. So I already had my contacts outside the religion. Thankfully, I didn’t let Witnesses invade my privacy.. I always resisted their intrusiveness and that was wise because I could not have foreseen that I would need to run away from them!!
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  Disaster preparedness

  by ElderBerry in

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  2. experiences

  as your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.

  also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.

  please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.

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  BETH SARIM:

  I was puzzled when I read a while back they were asking for names and phone numbers of JW’s relatives.. What if these relatives are being shunned by the JW?

  BALAAMSASS2:

  With regard to these Go-Bags: I remember asking a JW former friend just where they were going to? Of course I got no answer. What I do wonder is - if some JWs are expecting some miracle or supernatural event to occur.. Like maybe an Exodus.2 ?
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  Prediction: no more changes for a long while

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’ve noticed a pattern where things don’t go the way i expect them to go and/or whenever i realise there is a trend and, i mentally adjust for the idea that the trend will continue, the trend stops in its tracks.

  so on that basis, and given many people, including myself, and active jws, have been asking ‘what changes will the governing body make next?’ perhaps the (disappointing) answer is: ‘nothing much for a while to come’.

  maybe they’ve made the changes they want for now, and will wait a while and see how it’s received.

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  DAGNEY:

  Interesting times for sure. But, I’m Glad I’m long Out and watching this only as a spectator!

  I also agree the JW religion has long range plans! I think it’s just a question of when would be the correct moment for them to reveal these things.. Right now I think they are watching the dust settle on the recent shocking changes they already made to determine the attitudes and whatever in the congregations!
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  Update changes well received

  by Gorb in

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  2. friends

  a few weeks later, the witness that i speak, family and friends are very happy with the recent changes .. no one mentions the df aproach change, fieldservice report and free entrance to the paradise for non jw.. only the clothing style and beard are mentioned.. the sisters are all in a halaluja happy modes.

  they are feeling being respected and heard by the lovely leadership.. one brother told me he will never grow a beard because he lost his elder status in the early 90's because of his beard.

  now it's allowed i will not grow a beard he sweared.. it seems jw.org has down a great change job.

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  GORB:

  I don’t blame that brother. I’d tell them to shove their new beard rule… But, it seems this brother isn’t going anywhere and nothing else changed for him. As you mention, the sisters seem to be happy with the changes.

  Maybe as time goes by and everything sinks in, some thinking Witnesses here and there will leave.. But, I seriously doubt many will go back to the JWs unless it’s to have contact with relatives who are shunning them.

  But, who can guarantee that their hopes to reconcile will even be successful in the end? We have read of reinstated people who still feel treated badly! They might just end up leaving the religion yet again!
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  SCHEMING TO END YOUR MARRIAGE NOW AS BAD AS APOSTASY

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/-yvykw37rzo?si=vwokohrdq2b53fmh.

  by now, it should be painfully obvious that we live in a post tonny morris era where the floods of organizational changes have become possible and a new version of the religion, some have called it warchtower 2.0 is emerging with a soft approach to disfellowshipping practices across the board for all those sinners.

  nevertheless 3 groups of people will still be targeted for harsh excommunication, we know the first two well :csa perpetrators and apostates.

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  RAYMOND FRANTZ:

  What you say makes perfect sense: the bottom line is that divorce in the JW religion hurts their bottom line. Certain people (usually the ‘wronged’ partner) feel so uncomfortable that they leave.

  Several decades ago it seemed that there was a rash of this going on. Man cheats on wife, gets disfellowshipped. Comes back with the new wife (usually younger and prettier) who may or may not have been from the same congregation.. Then you see them raising their hands commenting. All is well or so it seemed.

  That seemed to be the recipe of how you do it in JW land.. But, I guess this was not liked by the religion because it became too common. People switched congregations and maybe left the religion altogether. Not a good thing for the religion.
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  Who is Charles Sunutko?

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the spring of 1967 district overseer charles sunutko gave in sheboygan, wisconsin, the talk, "serving with everlasting life in view"

  a recording of that talk is available on the internet at several places, easily found by a google search.. but who is (was?

  ) charles sunutko?.

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  LongHairGal

  I did a Google of the name Charles Sinutko.

  I just listened to his famous talk about “Staying Alive Until ‘75’. Even though I came into the Witness religion after 1975, I remember some of that similar language in his talk coming from certain older JWs in the congregation at the time.

  I remember hearing: ‘exert yourself vigorously’ and the admonition that if you ‘weren’t out doing all you can’ - you ‘wouldn’t make it’, and that ‘door would be closed’.. I was certainly viewed as being screwed because I had a full-time job!

  But, I wonder what he would have to say now about the religion removing its requirement to count time and turn in a slip?