Posts by LongHairGal

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People who work free for the cult for many years

by ThomasDam21 in

new to the forum.

i have a question i did not get any feed back for on another site.

what to these people who gave decades working for free in bethel when they are 60 plus years old.

LongHairGal

NOT FORMER:

I agree with everything you said in your post.

Today’s ’older destitute JWs’ not only denigrated and demonized other churches who have social programs that are keeping many alive - they ALSO denigrated people like me... I was a young woman who worked full-time and wasn’t buying any nonsense about doing housecleaning and full time ministry.. If I had listened I wouldn’t be retired today.

In all likelihood, these older needy JWs pioneered and didn’t ‘count the cost’! They enjoyed a great social life back then when young and got invited to those special dinners. How many times did they listen to derogatory remarks about working people like me? So, they are guilty in my eyes.

Too bad they didn’t do the math in their head when they saw older people there with cushy lives who were already in the workforce.. I was young and saw this and made sure I kept on working. Meanwhile, they were waiting for Armageddon to save them.

No, I don’t feel sorry for them and am Glad to not be around them or in the religion anymore…

JWs and ex-JWs on the forum who imagine anybody owes older needy JWs (who never really worked) anything are just plain mistaken. The RELIGION owes these people because that is who they worked for - and it is just gaslighting to say otherwise.

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I saw this on ex JW Reddit today. Are ANY JW kids even listening to talks anymore with tablets in their hands? :)? lol

by Balaamsass2 in

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friends

i got this notification from ex-jw reddit today via email:.

r/exjw · posted by u/nightmare_dark_shade 1d ago.

guys, my parents found out i was posting here.

LongHairGal

BETH SARIM:

We are going to hear more and more about the ramifications on this topic as yet more JWs either wake-up or get kicked out of bethel…..There is another thread by some innocent person asking about People who Worked Free for the Cult for Many Years, etc.

IF the religion sells off halls and goes online at some point - I think this will be devastating to many JWs as they realize they cannot depend on their religion that they saw as a ‘Rock’.

This is ALL a horror story and should serve as a cautionary tale for gullible people who did not work/prepare and made the mistake of trusting in any religion for important things in their life. 😮 God gave you a brain and capabilities and never told you to trust in someone else to think for you!

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Another poster asked me to post this as they want to remain anonymous for the sake of the victims.

by karter in

hey karter can you post this for me?

as you know my ex wife and i adopted her brother at 7 years old when his parents passed away.. we brought him up a j.w but he left at 16 and moved in with his girlfriend.. it came out he had been interfering with our 3 daughters when they were very young.. he never got prosecuted becouse my daughters didnt want to ( i suspect their mother a hard out j.w has something to do with that) so basicly he walked free.. latter in life he left his girlfreind comes back to the j.ws and they welcome him like the prodical son and he marries a j.w.. if anyone reading this thinks the j.ws like to hide c.s a read on.. it came to my attention recently by 2 ex elders that had read the letter that followers him when he moves congros that it says the sex bettween him and my daughters was consensual..they were under 10 years old.. this were it gets disgusting.. i approach the p.o of my old congro and ask him who wrote the letter he said he had moved by that time go see another elder .. i did he didnt know as well and said for me to ring the branch.. i did and they were not interested in changing the letter at all basicly go away.. the offender has moved congros 3 times and every time they elders think my daughters under 10 went along with this pos.. not sure what my next move is as the branch here has closed down and they operate out of a diffrent country.. if anyone wants to ask questions ill p.m the reply to you..

LongHairGal

KARTER:

What a tragic story and my heart goes out to the victims.😞 I sent you a PM.

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People who work free for the cult for many years

by ThomasDam21 in

new to the forum.

i have a question i did not get any feed back for on another site.

what to these people who gave decades working for free in bethel when they are 60 plus years old.

LongHairGal

KERRY KING:

I always felt that those who pioneered and got fawned over with the special dinners and looked down their noses at people like me who didn’t pioneer were ‘having their reward in full’. That’s the way it seemed to me.

Anybody who did volunteer work for the religion better be asking the religion for money because that is who they worked for! Never forget this.

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People who work free for the cult for many years

by ThomasDam21 in

new to the forum.

i have a question i did not get any feed back for on another site.

what to these people who gave decades working for free in bethel when they are 60 plus years old.

LongHairGal

THOMAS DAM21:

This is a sad story for anybody who worked for ‘free’ doing volunteer work instead of a REAL job where they pay into Social Security. I am sorry anybody fell for this. Those Witnesses already on the outside are better off, in my opinion, than those in bethel. Nothing sadder or worse than a bethelite who gets kicked out over 50 years of age who not only has no $$ but doesn’t know how the world works.

HOSER:

I know what you mean about them thinking they ‘had the world by the tail’!

I remember this arrogant attitude by some people there.. They pioneered and were ‘admired’ and invited to special dinners and gatherings that I was not invited to because I would not quit my full-time job.. Some of them actually came up to me and scoffed and told me ‘I was missing out’ . That was decades ago..

We have all reached our senior years. These people expected they’d be in ‘the New World’ by now., At least I rid myself of this delusion many years ago and kept that job until it was time to retire!

Instead, these JWs have to keep trying to make a living in a VERY bad economy and getting older with health problems.

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I saw this on ex JW Reddit today. Are ANY JW kids even listening to talks anymore with tablets in their hands? :)? lol

by Balaamsass2 in

jw
friends

i got this notification from ex-jw reddit today via email:.

r/exjw · posted by u/nightmare_dark_shade 1d ago.

guys, my parents found out i was posting here.

LongHairGal

BETH SARIM:

It is enough to make me cringe if I think about what horrible predicament I would be in today if I had caved in to pressure years ago by the Witnesses to quit my full-time job to do housecleaning/pioneering!.. Thank God I resisted.

I am sorry I missed the opportunity to tell off certain older Witnesses who have passed away. I would have rubbed this in their faces.

This would have been no laughing matter for me if I were gullible. The JW religion would not be supporting me in my senior years.. I would be knocking on Christendom’s doors for help.. JWs have NO social programs to help the needy which is ironic in view of their contributing to this ‘neediness’ with telling people not to get college or careers!👎

I firmly believe that religions should be required to have some programs to help the poor and needy if they want to keep their tax exempt status!

Again, I am thankful I did what I did and listened instead to the wisdom of my (non-JW) Catholic family and friends!

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I saw this on ex JW Reddit today. Are ANY JW kids even listening to talks anymore with tablets in their hands? :)? lol

by Balaamsass2 in

jw
friends

i got this notification from ex-jw reddit today via email:.

r/exjw · posted by u/nightmare_dark_shade 1d ago.

guys, my parents found out i was posting here.

LongHairGal

WING COMMANDER:

All so true! Other churches have activities for all ages and are pleasant to attend. What a contrast to the *dead* JW religion that has nothing but gloom and doom and a toxic environment! I don’t believe the Witnesses ever had Fruits of the Spirit.

I guess being Catholic and then making the mistake of getting involved with the JWs turned me off.. But, even the Catholic Church has come a long way and those I know now who attend are content.

Again, other churches have social programs for the needy.. In contrast, Witnesses have none.. This is too bad in light of all the needy it created by telling them not to get careers.. I feel it would be the ‘Christian’ thing to do to help their people out in some way (the many who reached retirement age unprepared thanks to never getting those careers or decent jobs).

I’m so Glad today I followed my gut and never fell for anything they said.

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I saw this on ex JW Reddit today. Are ANY JW kids even listening to talks anymore with tablets in their hands? :)? lol

by Balaamsass2 in

jw
friends

i got this notification from ex-jw reddit today via email:.

r/exjw · posted by u/nightmare_dark_shade 1d ago.

guys, my parents found out i was posting here.

LongHairGal

WING COMMANDER:

I know how your mom felt and I also scoffed at the unbelievable bullshit I heard them say. And it went in one ear and out the other.

Remember, I saw all the older people in the hall collecting their pensions because they had been in the workforce.. Meanwhile, I was treated like an outcast for being in the workforce. But, I’m retired and can Thank God every day I never listened to these hypocrites (it’s almost as if they were trying to kill me with their pushing poverty).

The JW religion is also dishonest in their portrayals in the videos as you pointed out. They either show a couple obviously wealthy; or in others a guy with a house in a decent suburban area that he would have to be making over six figures to afford and maintain, not to mention a wife that probably helps out too.

As for anyone especially today in 2024, who believes they can get themselves fired from a good job and that another one is going to be dropped in their lap - words can’t describe the stupidity of this person. They’d never get an ounce of pity from me. Hopefully any gullible person who did this in the past learned from their error. This is not the ‘80s with a healthy economy. Quite the opposite and I don’t think we’ll see that again.

Nah, when the last of the Boomers mostly women are gone with their generosity (courtesy of some deceased husband who worked 40 years) it’s pretty much over for this religion - and good riddance when that finally happens!

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Mandated Shunning is a Crime

by Lee Marsh in

mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.

shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.

mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.

LongHairGal

TONUS OH:

No, but they’d be treated like how a host would treat an unwanted guest. A fake smile and keep on moving!

Witnesses have limited contact with the world not being exposed to ‘real’ situations that are not in a Kingdom Hall setting.

Even ‘worldly’ people wouldn’t think if they didn’t bother with somebody for 40 years that they were going to pick up where they left off ages ago.

Witnesses are deeply delusional and frankly I would have no patience to deal with them ever again - and glad I don’t have to.

125

Mandated Shunning is a Crime

by Lee Marsh in

mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.

shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.

mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.

LongHairGal

NOT FORMER:

Regarding the JW religion’s ‘relaxing the rules’ towards Disfellowshipped and shunned people.: I agree with you that under the surface it’s not a kinder or gentler religion.

Here is what I think: I am ‘Faded’ and not disfellowshipped. I am shunned when I encounter some JWs I knew but I do not care as I have no family there and am Out a long time and retired.

So, how would I really feel if people who shunned me decades ago all of a sudden came up to me smiling and wanted to be friends??? 🤣 Quite frankly, I’m not interested and I would politely back off.. I built a life without them and too much time has passed. I neither need nor want their old faces around me.. It is to their credit I suppose if they realize they were wrong but it’s too bad a religion gave them permission to be a human being.. Sorry, but it would be too late in my case.

The JW religion IS ridiculous and imagines people are like light switches that you turn On and Off.. Someone should tell them it doesn’t work that way.

However, I DO understand that a Disfellowshipped person shunned by loved ones with a broken family they dearly miss would find the religion’s new policy (trying to undo its damage)..to be good news!