after discouraging and in many instances prohibiting jw's from getting an education, like in computer graphics, film-making and design, the wt is employing these kinds of professionals and throwing vast sums of money at their new film-making adventures doubtless from all the properties they confiscated, sold that the local members paid for.
kim and mikey talk about this primarily starting at 13:15https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqafxmsjirk&ab_channel=kimmikey .
FOOLEDNOMORE:
I’m glad your grandparents weren’t JWs and encouraged you to get an education. I’m grateful my non-JW family also encouraged college.
I never got any anti-college/anti-career vibes from anybody in my life until I set foot in the Witness religion. But, thankfully, I never took anything they said seriously and let their foolish talk go in one ear and out the other! I did not follow in the footsteps of other women in the religion and very glad today I did not.
after discouraging and in many instances prohibiting jw's from getting an education, like in computer graphics, film-making and design, the wt is employing these kinds of professionals and throwing vast sums of money at their new film-making adventures doubtless from all the properties they confiscated, sold that the local members paid for.
kim and mikey talk about this primarily starting at 13:15https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqafxmsjirk&ab_channel=kimmikey .
SEA BREEZE:
I’m glad you got your education though.
Yes, it certainly appears as you say that JWs ‘seem to glorify ignorance as if it is some sort of goal to attain’.. I think they want people there who are acceptably ignorant who will never complain or speak up about anything.
As far as multi-generational JWs being intimidated into not getting college for themselves or their children by elders and other busybodies, I might understand this a generation ago before the computer age. But today? When you talk about ‘avoiding conflict’ and ‘keeping the peace’, no offense but this sounds cowardly and makes a man in the religion not the master of his OWN household. It sounds like somebody else is the master in HIS home (and maybe even bedroom). Sounds unmanly and like he has no balls either.
I understand that to somebody like myself not raised in the JW religion this mentality is outrageous and unacceptable. The rest of the world would feel the same way.
after discouraging and in many instances prohibiting jw's from getting an education, like in computer graphics, film-making and design, the wt is employing these kinds of professionals and throwing vast sums of money at their new film-making adventures doubtless from all the properties they confiscated, sold that the local members paid for.
kim and mikey talk about this primarily starting at 13:15https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqafxmsjirk&ab_channel=kimmikey .
SEA BREEZE:
It’s hard to believe that even at this LATE date that some JWs are still listening to stupid advice to NOT get college or some higher education.
I really don’t have any respect or regard for any adult there who denies their intelligent child a college education. Anybody who thinks idiot ‘privileges’ and opinions of elders means anything is a fool with sh#t for brains…I realize some kids are piss-poor students and not college material. But, if the child gets decent grades there is no excuse.
when i was growing up, some people were on welfare but the vast majority were working people that paid their own rent, doctor’s bills, medicine, food, etc.
—and saved money.
so, a working person did not need financial help from the government if they didn’t have vices.
Let everyone not forget for one minute that millions of jobs disappeared and the far reaching effects that resulted. This happened since the 1960s - and under both political parties no matter who was in office.
Many jobs went overseas and this should not have been allowed to happen.
This is the reason for the economy being the way it is now. A ‘gig’ economy with no benefits? Don’t make me laugh.
Nobody really began to notice though until recent decades when even call centers went overseas. I’m sorry for younger people starting out in life..This is so unfair.
jehovah's witnesses basically define the term "apostate" as someone who was once a member of the "organization" (a jehovah's witness) but no longer follows the teachings, rules, regulations and practices.
the society gives their official definition in the following manner: "apostasy is abandoning or deserting the worship and service of god, actually a rebellion against jehovah god.
some apostates profess to know and serve god but reject teachings or requirements set out in his word.
The word ‘apostate’ is a stupid word thrown around that doesn’t mean anything to me.
I was supposedly an ‘apostate’ when I got involved with the JWs after being raised a Roman Catholic. Well, now I’m Out of the Witnesses.
i was brought up as a born-in(tm) here in the uk.
it wasn't until i was 50 that the scales fell from my eyes, i woke up, got da'd from the cult and my wife was advised to leave me by the elders whom i had served with on the boe.
one of which i know wanted to schtupf her.
PUNKOFNICE:
I think part of the reason for your anger is that people in general are not going to see justice as far as the religion is concerned.. It’s like an amoeba with an ever changing face. Also, nobody can ever give us back wasted time.
MAGNUM:
I agree with how you feel about people who still remain in the JW religion. My few friends who remain there are single women who believed the B.S. about not getting decent jobs/careers because of peer pressure/intimidation especially on women and also that ‘Armageddon was near’. Thankfully, I resisted this but boy was I resented!
They are now over sixty and considered Very low income or poor. One gets by with monetary help from non-Witness family. The others, I suspect, get ‘assistance’ of some sort here and there by the ‘brothers’. I believe these women stayed in the religion too long and it may be too late for them to start over somewhere else. None of us was born-in but it was easier for me to leave..I also suspect there are deeply emotional issues with them and they couldn’t bear being ‘out’ or being disapproved of. 🙄
All in all, I am convinced some JWs do not have what it takes to leave and stand on their own two feet in the world. I don’t compare myself to anybody else. I am just Glad that I left and that I wisely hung onto that job (that I was hated for) until Retirement.
i am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.
i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.
in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.
TONUS:
So, it IS said in public right before somebody goes in the water? This is what I’m understanding and I certainly don’t know never having witnessed anybody being baptized.
Too late for a candidate to back out and publicly disappoint their adoring family and ‘friends’, don’t you think? How sneaky.
As I said, I was ‘baptized’ before they changed these questions and format. But, it was all a crock of sh#t anyway and redundant since I already WAS baptized Catholic when I was a baby. As far as I’m concerned NOW, that’s the only one that was ever valid or means anything to me.
i am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.
i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.
in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.
I was baptized before they changed these questions.
If I’m not mistaken, and somebody correct me if I’m wrong, aren’t these questions asked just before the person is dunked in the water?
If so, it’s a little late don’t you think? A person who even notices this sneaky thing because of being nervous and with all the fanfare would be less likely to say “Hey, what the hell is this? I’m not getting baptized”.
i met freddie franz who was born in the 1880’s and many others from the 1880’s.
but as a very small child i remember someone very old aged 106 and that person was born around 1856 which means that he was around people from the 1700’s..
Certainly. Both my grandfathers and maybe some other elderly people I knew as well were born in the eighteen hundreds.
When I was in grade school and visiting relatives in the northeast we visited antique shops.
A very friendly elderly lady in one place was every bit of 99 years of age (she told us). She was as sharp as a tack. She also would certainly have had to have been born in the eighteen hundreds.
i am still on my holiday around the uk and currently am in the midlands if anyone is around i’d love to catch up - hope you are all well xx.
BETTY HUMPTER:
Sorry to disagree, but sometimes things actually WERE better in the ‘old’ days.
PUNKOFNICE:
I visited the UK in the 1970s and it certainly WAS better all around. I even have a photo of the prime minister’s residence (before the days of terrorism and all this other sh#t) when you could actually walk up to the place. There might have been one policeman standing outside but that was it.
