Posts by LongHairGal

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New light on shunning?

by Mikejw in

one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.

he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .

what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.

LongHairGal

MAGNUM:

I agree with you that what’s going on in the JW religion is real stuff and not some fiction on TV.

Not that there’s anything wrong with watching fiction on TV, but people have a right to see what’s going on in an organization that has affected many people’s lives.

When I saw the change at the recent annual meeting where they took away the century old requirement to report hours, I took notice! I was judged over this! Thank God I never listened…I know it means zero now that I was persona non grata and not invited to special dinners back then because I worked.. But, I am mindful that others who did listen are far more impacted!

I wish them all the best and hope they get a break.

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Elderly and sick: Out of sight, out of mind

by Captain Schmideo2 in

jw
friends

someone else posted something a similar experience, this is one i had regarding my mom.my mom died last year.

she had been in failing health for years, but the last 2 year were pretty rough for her, with lots of visits to the hospital.

the last 4 months, it was the hospital, a skilled nursing facility/rehab unit, and finally, a nursing home.

LongHairGal

ROAD TO NOWHERE:

Yes, I do believe FOOLEDNOMORE should be aware of this.

DESIROUS OF CHANGE:

So you were pleasantly surprised that your mom got attention? It can go either way. I’m sure the ‘friends’ who showed interest in her are okay.. But I am a suspicious person about people in general (doesn’t matter what religion, etc.) and would take precautions just in case.

My family are not Witnesses and would not be fooled or trusting like some JWs would be. When my grandmother needed attention and strangers (nurses aides and the like) had to come and look in on her, my family was prepared.. Her whole apartment had been gone through beforehand and not one item of value was left there for anybody to pocket!

Sorry if anybody doesn’t like hearing this but that’s the way it is.

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New approach to ministry

by Mikejw in

jw
friends

there is a new approach to ministry where the direction is to just talk to people and listen to what they want to talk about.

the new school for the midweek meeting is completely different and is all about the new approach .

even before the no reporting changes field service dropped right off.

LongHairGal

MIKE JW:

I was a person who was judged back in the day because I worked full-time and was considered a ‘low hour publisher’.

When I heard they did away with counting time in 2023, I was super-Glad to have paid no mind to the criticism I got! ..It turned out all these years later to be well worth it that I wasn’t invited to those special ‘gatherings’ and dinners!..

This ‘next generation’ of JWs are wise to not pioneer and instead get educated so as to have good jobs.👍🏻 ..Otherwise, they will be like Witnesses now who have reached retirement age unprepared and asking struggling people in the congregation for money!

You talk about mental issues there and I’m not surprised. I can imagine that there must be bitterness towards brothers who misled and gave bad advice. I’m very glad I got out of this religion years ago.

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Again, More confusion about the direction of the Watchtower Society

by Truth and Justice in

jw
friends

hi friends, i have not been on this board in awhile, and i would like to get some thoughts from some of you.

i have noticed a change within my 4 siblings in approximately the last year and a half to 2 years regarding their communication with my mother and i. they have either phoned us, texted, emailed, or written a letter or card to us.

the conversation has been good, and on any topic that comes to mind.

LongHairGal

TRUTH AND JUSTICE:

I don’t blame you for being resentful over these people ignoring/mistreating you for so long with the result being ruined family relationships. Years have passed and they just imagine they can try to come back into your life with no apologies !!!

Witnesses are deceived into believing people are like a light switch that can be turned On or Off.. They are so wrong.

I believe the reason JWs are ‘reaching out’ to estranged people is a combination of factors: the bad publicity the religion is getting and/or the realization that they have driven SO many away with their toxic environment and arrogance..Their numbers are declining and elderly Baby Boomers make up a significant portion of whatever people still go there.. They probably see the handwriting on the wall.

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Attended the KH recently and found it to be thoroughly therapeutic.

by joe134cd in

i had to attend a family event recently which involved attending the kh.

before i went i had it in my mind this was going to be a different experience.

tbh i’ve had an interest in super hero socks.

LongHairGal

JOE134CD:

I would say it’s a subtle statement made without uttering a word. But, it might not have been noticed unless somebody was really checking you out.

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Elderly and sick: Out of sight, out of mind

by Captain Schmideo2 in

jw
friends

someone else posted something a similar experience, this is one i had regarding my mom.my mom died last year.

she had been in failing health for years, but the last 2 year were pretty rough for her, with lots of visits to the hospital.

the last 4 months, it was the hospital, a skilled nursing facility/rehab unit, and finally, a nursing home.

LongHairGal

CAPTAIN SCHMIDEO2:

I am sorry about the loss of your mom and that the ‘friends’ turned out to be a disappointment. It is as you described it: unless you are part of a big clan/extended family, you are forgotten.

At least she had you and that is good. Don’t know if you are active in the religion, but those elderly JWs who have alienated their children are in a terrible predicament.

FOOLEDNOMORE:

Yes, they have their nerve $ticking their noses into other people’s business asking questions that don’t concern them!

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Radical shake up

by Mikejw in

imagine if all the governing body resigned and a new set of brothers came in and said we are very very sorry for all those who have been disfellowshipped and disassociated over the years.

we know many mistakes have been made.

we are really genuinely sorry to all those who have been hurt and especially those who have died and been hurt by these mistakes.

LongHairGal

LV101:

My God, what kind of environment is this - and who the hell would want to be there???

I don’t need to go into everything but I was hated back in the day as a young lady who worked. Nah! these bastards can go take a hike!

I can’t even feel sorry for people who never wanted to work..Let their ‘spiritual’ friends give them money.. What you describe is nothing I would ever tolerate and I would have to openly shout and tell these brothers off. I would actually insult them. Why on earth would I go there? I don’t even want to know these people.

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Radical shake up

by Mikejw in

imagine if all the governing body resigned and a new set of brothers came in and said we are very very sorry for all those who have been disfellowshipped and disassociated over the years.

we know many mistakes have been made.

we are really genuinely sorry to all those who have been hurt and especially those who have died and been hurt by these mistakes.

LongHairGal

MIKE JW:

I agree with MAGNUM and I think anybody who would go running back in your scenario to be a glutton for punishment.

Not only that, just what are they going back to? ..At least when I walked away in 2001 over the 1995 Generation thing + bad attitudes in the congregation - things were ‘normal’ with no desperation yet or panhandling.. Even the pioneers who didn’t plan weren’t worried yet.

Now, we are 23 years later. Things are bad in the economy and the congregations with many daydreamers reaching retirement age unprepared… What would happen if I were stupid enough to show my face there?? I guarantee some moron would approach me (a person knocked for working, I might add) and ask for money - for people there who didn’t work!.. I have told my JW ‘friends’ from the old days and even Witnesses at my door that I would never tolerate this.. I’m afraid that’s how it is now in many congregations.👎 You can have it.

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Field Service

by Ding in

for those who are still attending meetings, what is happening at your congregation regarding field service now that reporting of hours is no longer required?.

are the elders pushing for people to go out in service anyway?.

what is the response?.

LongHairGal

MAGNUM:

In addition to what you mentioned, what about people harmed by following the religion’s advice?? (People led to believe they didn’t need to prepare for old age and retirement).. How could a just God not understand how misled people were???

As you know. they discarded that 100 year old teaching about counting time at their annual meeting.. I was judged over this and will never forget!!! Thankfully, I paid no attention years ago and did what I had to do, which was work. (You have mentioned your situation.) What about the many thousands of JWs in a similar or worse predicament now - and at an advanced age no less?

And no apologies (or anything else) to anybody.

I wonder what the majority of the JWs really think about these changes.

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Enjoy hope without disappointment

by Mikejw in

todays watchtower is very interesting on many levels.

they know that millions are disappointed.. https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=e&prefer=lang&docid=2023681.

i also found it interesting they talk about brother fred franz and show his picture.

LongHairGal

MIKEJW:

They need an article like this after the disappointment caused by the changes in their 2023 Annual Meeting.

I am long Out so it doesn’t matter to me - but very many Witnesses must be deeply depressed over these changes (especially the one about not needing to report hours). I got judged over this and glad I never listened.

I watched a You Tube by an ex-JW who talks about how they went ‘scorched earth’ on their own teachings! Any intelligent JWs must come to the same conclusions. How could it not bother them?

DING:

Nineteen Seventy Five was before my time in the JW religion. There must have been many thousands ruined by the bad advice they got. These people did more than ‘grow old’ - many have passed away… Sadly, people who came in after ‘75 got similar bad advice to not get careers, etc. Thankfully, I never paid any mind to anything said there!