hey erich, I'm sure your right, and I'm sure it will require alot of paperwork to make it all work with those patents. But on the other hand, your computer is full of patented stuff too, and still you were able to buy for not that much money...
Posts by Bas
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18Millions living now will never die, due to SCIENCE!!!
by Bas insince the rise of biotech, the possibility of eternal life and an easy cure for cancer have been widely discussed and speculated about.. .
now, however, it looks like the cancercells themselves are teaching scientists how to stop the agingprocess and bringing us closer to eternal life.
millions living now will never die!!!.
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When Did GOD Last 'Talk' To Us?
by Legolas inok i got a question for everyone....when was the last time god had dealings with mankind either through dreams or prophets etc... before jesus came?
and how long before that etc...?
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Heathen, I don't believe in religion and the bible (or the torah and koran for that matter), I think they are mostly harmful things.
However the belief in God, independent from the beforementioned things, I think is beneficiary for alot of people, helps them in hard times and all that. Also, even the most hardcore Atheist have doubts (about the existence of god). Maybe not many doubts but still they are only human minds "trapped" in their own individual lives...
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Millions living now will never die, due to SCIENCE!!!
by Bas insince the rise of biotech, the possibility of eternal life and an easy cure for cancer have been widely discussed and speculated about.. .
now, however, it looks like the cancercells themselves are teaching scientists how to stop the agingprocess and bringing us closer to eternal life.
millions living now will never die!!!.
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oh and SNG, I think the closest correct pronounciation of the name is somewhere between bass and boss (but then pronounced as short as you pronounce bus) , and I'm doing pretty good
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Millions living now will never die, due to SCIENCE!!!
by Bas insince the rise of biotech, the possibility of eternal life and an easy cure for cancer have been widely discussed and speculated about.. .
now, however, it looks like the cancercells themselves are teaching scientists how to stop the agingprocess and bringing us closer to eternal life.
millions living now will never die!!!.
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I agree, Carla, things would get boring to put it simply. Death isn't really scary to me either, and I don't even believe in heaven and all that, just see it as eternal peace and rest. And I don't want my old body with all it's defects be kept alive either. The point with this technology is that your body would not age beyond 30. Your mind would age though, and I think there would be the biggest problem/challenge.
But really this reality of "eternal" life will be here sooner or later, most probably not for us, but our kids' kids might have a good shot at it.
Bas
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When Did GOD Last 'Talk' To Us?
by Legolas inok i got a question for everyone....when was the last time god had dealings with mankind either through dreams or prophets etc... before jesus came?
and how long before that etc...?
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ehhhhh, does God exist then?
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Millions living now will never die, due to SCIENCE!!!
by Bas insince the rise of biotech, the possibility of eternal life and an easy cure for cancer have been widely discussed and speculated about.. .
now, however, it looks like the cancercells themselves are teaching scientists how to stop the agingprocess and bringing us closer to eternal life.
millions living now will never die!!!.
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well, that's exactly where the opening lies, Danny, Extending the replication capability of cells indefinately. Still a long, long way off from any practicle application though. Though more money and scientists are working on genetics these days then on any other science in the history of mankind (far, far more, and it's still increasing rapidly)
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Millions living now will never die, due to SCIENCE!!!
by Bas insince the rise of biotech, the possibility of eternal life and an easy cure for cancer have been widely discussed and speculated about.. .
now, however, it looks like the cancercells themselves are teaching scientists how to stop the agingprocess and bringing us closer to eternal life.
millions living now will never die!!!.
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Bas
I knew that would get your attention SNG!, how are ya?
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Millions living now will never die, due to SCIENCE!!!
by Bas insince the rise of biotech, the possibility of eternal life and an easy cure for cancer have been widely discussed and speculated about.. .
now, however, it looks like the cancercells themselves are teaching scientists how to stop the agingprocess and bringing us closer to eternal life.
millions living now will never die!!!.
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Since the rise of Biotech, the possibility of eternal life and an easy cure for cancer have been widely discussed and speculated about.
Now, however, it looks like the cancercells themselves are teaching scientists how to stop the agingprocess and bringing us closer to eternal life. Millions living now will never die!!!http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4947Secret of eternal life may give cancer cure
A new system that helps cells stave off the ravages of time has been discovered by scientists. The find may help explain how some cancer cells live forever - and provide a new route of attack for up to one in 10 tumours, they say.
The system keeps cells youthful by adding thimble-like caps to the ends of chromosomes to protect them from damage and ageing, says the international team led by scientists at Cancer Research UK.
They estimate that up to 10 per cent of cancer cells may rely on this capping system to grow and divide well past their natural life expectancy.
The system is based on a molecule called RAD51D, which the team show protects DNA from damage. But the molecule also stops the protective ends of chromosomes from wearing away naturally, the process that normally allows a cell to grow old and die gracefully.
"Cancer has an amazing ability to shake off the shackles of ageing and death, which is one of the reasons why it can be so hard to treat, " says Madalena Tarsounas, who led the study at Cancer Research UK's London Research Institute
"Understanding how cancer cells remain eternally young has been a key focus of research for more than a decade, so it's particularly exciting to have made such a striking discovery," she says. "We think as many as 10 per cent of tumours may be heavily reliant on the new mechanism to keep their cells alive and these may also be highly susceptible to drugs targeted against it."
Structure and stability
The ends of chromosomes are capped by repetitive sequences of DNA called telomeres. They are important in maintaining the structure and stability of chromosomes as they divide and replicate during cell growth.
As cells grow and divide many times, these telomeres shorten until they are so short they trigger the cell ageing process, and the cell dies. But in tumours, this natural ageing mechanism is somehow blocked, and cells grow and divide uncontrollably.
Tarsounas and her colleagues used immunofluorescence to light up various molecules in cancer cells. They consistently found RD51D near the chromosomes' telomeres.
And when they used a technique called RNA interference to block the action of this molecule, the cancer cells suffered substantial damage. Most of those treated with a blocker died within seven days, but cells treated with a "placebo" were unaffected. Blocking the action of RD51D also caused the ends of different chromosomes to fuse together more often when cells divided.
Blocking this crucial molecule also increased the number of chromosomes with short telomeres, less than 6 kilobases in length, and decreased the number of long telomeres, over 20 kilobases in length.
"Cancer cells are adept at slipping the constraints of the ageing process, but this highly significant study points to ways of making them mortal, and vulnerable, once more," says Robert Souhami, Cancer Research UK's Director of Clinical and External Affairs.
Journal reference: Cell (vol 117, p 337)[speculation] So what if, say in 50 years, a simple technology is available that would stop the aging process in humans? It would mean that millions of children living now will never die! (at least, you would still have "accidents" in which people die ofcourse but in theory there could be people around right now that could grow older than the 6000 years some biblethumbing fanatics are saying is the age of the universe. [/speculation]
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Is It Me Or Are There A Ton Of New Posters On This Month???
by minimus ini've been on a mini vacation and lately i've seen mostly "newbies" posting.
this place changes sooo quickly, it's amazing!!!
i'm glad to see the "great crowd's" influx here.
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Bas
WOW, this board grows so fast!! we must have the 20 000th member by the first half on next year, or were we there already? oh anyway, welcom to all the NuB's
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I'm in love !!!!
by talesin inyes, it's true!
meet the new love of my life, balmpot.
she fits in the palm of my hand right now, she is already mistress of the house, and i her devoted slave.
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Bas
I'm so glad you found a kittie ((((tal)))) and glad for kitty too ((((kitty)))) , how old do you think she is? 5 months? well, enjoy her sunshine, I'm really happy for youBas