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  Hypnotic method of WTS

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  i was reading various materials from the web and came across information that suggests that j.f.rutherford .

  learned to use hypnotic study methods.

  study books for students engage the left brain and right brain, .

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  I do not know of this show. Is it pure fiction?

  No, it's for real - or at least that's how it was presented. Derren Brown is a "mentalist" (hypnotist/magician) who uses various types of psychological trickery to mess with people's heads for the viewer's amusement - making taxi drivers forget where to find a major landmark when it's right in front of them, making everyone in a shopping mall simultaneously raise their hand in the air without knowing why, making a room full of atheists suddenly start believing in God, etc.

  The effect would just satisfy the brain with stimulation and make him less likely to disbelieve. Later, he would feel that he did research the material well enough (through only the study itself) and he would not try to do supplimental research.

  I think you're right. It also creates the illusion of an open discussion where all sides of the issue were considered and up for debate. We discussed that point, and that was the conclusion we all came to - everyone else's comment was in agreement with the paragraph, so I must be the odd one out for seeing a problem.
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  Hypnotic method of WTS

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was reading various materials from the web and came across information that suggests that j.f.rutherford .

  learned to use hypnotic study methods.

  study books for students engage the left brain and right brain, .

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  What I'm questioning is the EFFECT that subliminals have

  Did you ever see a show called "The Heist" by Derren Brown? During a series of lectures, he uses a mixture of subliminal words/imagery and hypnotic language to persuade a group of ordinary law-abiding citizens to suddenly perform an armed robbery on cue - without ever knowing why they were doing it. Unless these people were stooges, that seems to me like fairly compelling evidence that such techniques can have a rather dramatic effect on a person's thinking and behaviour.
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  Can too many meetings be harmful to a person's spirituality?

  by JH in

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  i think so.. the watchtower wouldn't agree with me.

  too much of anything is counter productive.. it's like eating a good meal, and 5 minutes later ordering the same plate.

  you won't feel like eating because your full.

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  I'd say it's damaging when any outward display of spirituality is confused with spirituality itself. People start focusing on that instead and judging others by it. As long as they sit in this building enough hours a week and use a bright enough highlighter on their magazine and turn in a piece of paper with a big enough number on it, they must be a good person. Bleh.
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  Article in local college newspaper

  by Jim_TX in

  1. watchtower
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  http://www.theranger.org/media/storage/paper1010/news/2006/05/18/urbanjournalismworkshop/teen-jehovahs.witnesses.share.beliefs-2118143.shtml?norewrite200609191657&sourcedomain=www.theranger.org.

  (if i knew how to link better, i might be able to do this right...).

  i found this on the internet... it may be 'old news' - but it is interesting.

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  Jehovah's Witnesses are not required to go door-to-door

  That's absolutely correct; they also have the option of being treated like a leper until their impending destruction at Armageddon by the Prince of Peace. In fact, they are reminded fairly frequently that this other option is always available to them.
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  The Watchtower and the UN--MY letters and Brochure--

  by uninformed in

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  2. scandals

  i wrote the wt for a year before i was df'd over the wt-un/dpi-ngo deal.

  i have all of my letters, the wt jerkoff letter back to me as well as a compilation of a simple little brochure, documenting that the wt was more involved with the un than for a library card.

  if you would like to see and read it, i would like your feedback.

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  Following Memorial, he came by my house with another elder and asked what we did for memorial. My wife told them that we had our own. That was all they wanted to hear. Then they charged us with apostasy and disfellowshipped us basically for starting our own religion, I guess.

  Nice. Whatever happened to " For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst" ?
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  What did they say was wrong with Hypnosis??

  by mama1119 in

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  my doctor wants me to try hypnosis to help my sleep and anxiety.

  he says it is just a matter of making your mind focus on what you want it to do.

  i cannot remember what was supposedly wrong with it in the borg??

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  I was always told that the bit in Deuteronomy about "one who binds others with a spell" is referring to hypnotism.
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  The Face Of Jesus

  by Geronimo in

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  jeus on a tortilla .

  jesus in a plant pot.

  jesus on a dirty old piece of linen.

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  "Buddy Jesus"
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  Materialised demons... why not?

  by LtCmd.Lore in

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  acctualy i don't believe in demons anymore.

  but the recent bible teach study caused me to wonder... why does the society think that the demons are not capable of making bodies for themselves anymore, there was no support scripture so i looked it up on the wt library:.

  in 1953 there was a questions from readers about why they posess people and animals... they simply stated without any proof that they are incapable of making bodies anymore.. then in 1955 they offer a scripture.. *** w55 10/1 p. 594 par.

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  I guess there's something even creepier about evil entities that are strictly invisible and non-material. They can always be there in the room with you, waiting, watching, jeering inaudibly at you and plotting to do horrendous things as soon as you switch off the light.
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  Circuit Overseers

  by Outaservice in

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  our congregation had some of the best circuit overseers money could buy!.

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  For years our franchise congregation had a CO who used to do fun things like choose his favourite song at the end of the meeting and get all the sisters to sing the first verse, then the brothers would sing the second verse, then everyone together for the last one. Unusual, out of the ordinary. Everyone would be thinking "Hey, this guy is lots of fun."

  Then one year we got a new CO. Same song at the end! Same shtick with the singing!

  That kind of spoiled it for me. Quirky and spontaneous? Nope, all scripted.
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  did russell coin the phrase "in the truth"

  by headmath in

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  as in the context such as :.

  is he/she in the truth?.

  i just hate that miserable hyrocritical phrase.

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  I've even heard born-again televangelists say "in the truth" when referring to members of their church.