This is the age of information. People aren't as gullible anymore.
love11
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Why so many?
by Honesty inthere are so many 'used to be jw's' now i am just wondering what is causing the revolution in the organisation.
is it due to the failed prophecies, flip flopped doctrines, changing new light or is the borg squeezing the rank and file hard enough for them to realise the truth ain't the truth?
any thoughts on this?
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I'm not one to get into celebrity gossip but,
by heatherg inwhat do you all think of prince charles and camilla?
i think it's horrible and teaching a horrible lesson.
look at us, it' okay to cheat on your spouses, because in the end we'll get each other anyway.
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love11
Honestly, I think they should have been together from the beginning. But because she wasn't royalty he had to follow the rules and marry someone of royalty just for show- Diana. Now that things are becoming more liberal and accepting they decided to do what they always wanted to do, be together. I guess water really does seek it's own level. D- never belonged with that geezer in the first place.
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Give me ONE good reason why Adam could not have been black?
by nicolaou ini just read love2bworldys thread at did u know about the early white supremicist view of the jw's?
not wanting to hijack or divert that topic i ask the question here.. .
adam was the progenitor of the whole human race, from his genes sprang the negroid, caucasian, mongoloid, indo-european and every other race on the planet.
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love11
I agree with funkyderek. It's kind of like having a serious discussion about who would win in a fight- Wolverine or the Hulk? hehehe lol
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Private life drama..
by Brummie ini'm at work, stealing a bit of time.... .
almost a month ago my work mates mother jumped in front of a train!
she was 54. just the week before he was telling me how he was worried about her mental health.
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love11
Brummie- I told your story to my husband last night, he told me of another bird story that I thought you might be interested in.
He was listening to Coast to Coast Radio with Art Bell. I don't know if you're familiar with that show but usually it's about crazy phenomena, alien sightings, or ghosts. haha Mostly he listens just to get a kick out of it. Anyways, this show was talking about the dead, premonitions, etc. This lady called up and started telling her story.
One day she was leaving to go pick up her child from school. She was in a hurry because she didn't want her boy to get on the bus and miss her, usually the bus would take him home and he wasn't expecting her. She got off early from work and decided to suprise her son by picking him up at school. So... on her way out the door she noticed a bird stuck in her chain link fence. It was making all kinds of noise and she felt sorry for it struggling there stuck in the fence. She walked over to it and helped it get free even though she was in a hurry. Afterwards, she got in the car and started driving to her son's school. When she got there, the kids were lined up across the street to get on the bus when her son saw her parked on the other side of the street. He was only 5 years old and he got so excited seeing his mom that he started to run across the street to see her. At the same time a truck was coming down the street and about to hit the boy. Everyone was yelling to stop but he wasn't listening. Just then a bird flew at the kids face and was flapping it's wings in front of the boy. The woman doesn't know if it was the same exact bird she saved earlier but she said it looked the same. It scared the kid so bad that he stopped in his tracks and the truck just missed him.
Stories like this make me wonder if we are all connected in some strange way. Recently, I saw a movie you might be interested in called
I Huckabees. It's strange and unusual but at the same time funny and thought provoking. I liked it. It reminds me of this thread. ha
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Private life drama..
by Brummie ini'm at work, stealing a bit of time.... .
almost a month ago my work mates mother jumped in front of a train!
she was 54. just the week before he was telling me how he was worried about her mental health.
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love11
Leo- Sorry to hear that you lost so many people at a young age. I think it's harder when you're young to take that great of a lose. By the way, how are you and your wife doing now? Hope things are well.
Brummie- I don't know if this helps but here's some more info on why things probably worked out this way:
My neighbor found out the twins had a heart problem when they were in the womb. Ususally, one of the twins dies and the mother doesn't even know she had twins until a small blob comes out with the healthy baby at birth. By the way that they were growing, if the one died in the womb the other one would have died with it. So by Bella waiting to die till out of the womb, it allowed Olivia to live.
T. is my sisters father-in-law. My sister and her new husband R. only dated for a month before they decided to get married. The whole family was upset about it. Then shortly after getting married she became pregnant. Everyone was upset about that. All except for T who was thrilled that R. was marrying my sister and that he was going to be a new grandpa. The thing is, if they did not rush into marriage and right away have children, then T. never would have seen his son get married and have children. Something that was his dream, to see his grandkids.
My sisters lawsuit- She went to court already and the judge said that the charges are ridiculous and sternly looked at her ex and "recommended" that he drop the charges because this matter is petty nit picking. So as far as she knows everything is ok now.
I guess it's all at how you look at things. Death is not the worst thing that could happen to people, just like birth is not the best thing. It's like tailsin said - it's life. I asked my Grandma what it's like to be 89 years old, she said terrible. I asked her- what do you do if you want to live a long time but you don't want to get old? She just laughed and said that I got her on that one. She's a great lady and never a jw. She just said that you have to appreciate the things you do have and not think at all about the things you don't have. She has to carry an oxygen tank around now but she says at least I'm still moving. She was wallpapering her bedroom last time I called. haha Anyways- my husband's going to cut me off of this forum if I don't stop
talkingwriting. See ya later. Love -
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Private life drama..
by Brummie ini'm at work, stealing a bit of time.... .
almost a month ago my work mates mother jumped in front of a train!
she was 54. just the week before he was telling me how he was worried about her mental health.
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Wow talesin- How are you doing now? It says alot about your character that you were such a good friend to visit them when they needed you the most. Hope your spirit is still high and that you are doing well.
Brummie- I'm sorry you're going through such a sad time. Hopefully you're not still shaken up from this and you're doing well now.
I went through a weird winter as well. The day before christmas eve, I heard the ambulance early in the morning. I looked out of my window and it was my neighbors house that they went to. She just had twins about 4 months prior to this. One of the twins didn't make it, she had a bad heart and had past away rather violently, gasping for air. I felt so bad for them, it was the saddest funeral seeing that little casket and still baby. She looked like a little snow princess doll. But later that same day, my sister called up crying, her father-in-law died when they were visiting over the house. He went outside to shovel snow and my niece thought he was playing jerking around on the garage floor. So she was laughing and went over to tickle her grandpa and he stopped moving. So she ran in the house and told her mom (my sister). It was really sad and came at such a bad time. My sister was going through legal proceedings with her ex and her new father-in-law was helping her out by paying for the whole thing. Now she'll have to come up with the money on her own. That same day, a neighbor came over to her father-in-laws house and said that his dad died that morning too. Weird that so many people died that day. I guess it comes in threes.
It's strange how it seems like when everyone else was doing great I was the one down on my luck. And now, I'm doing better and everyone else around me is having bad luck. Weird how it's like we're taking turns with the good and bad. Hopefully, things get better for you guys.
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some please make sense of this!
by sad and lonely inhi people!..i have a serious question.and i often wonder have anyone one earth thought this way too!
why when there's a funeral the preacher always say..."got called his son or daughter home.i went to a family funeral,not this relative lived a bad (with a capital bad) life.the family knew it.he was evil,hateful,treated people wrong,yet the preacher said he's gone to heaven...so i'm now thinking then what the hell!..is hell for.no matter what i always hear the preacher say that person is gone to heaven...i asked my brother-in-law,why don't anyone say ...this person is in hell(since hell is suppose to be a place for the sinners)are the preachers afraid to say that around the families?i'm confused!
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love11
I think that christians don't want to judge someone like that, they leave that part up to God. How cruel would that be to the family to say that your loved one is not going to be in the afterlife with you from now until eternity? A funeral is no place to bring up any sins. A funeral is for the living to mourn and remember the good that this person did with their life. Believe me the family members are well aware of any bad actions of their deceased and it wouldn't do any good to rub that in their faces.
On the other side of the coin- When I was in intensive care for a very serious car accident, I asked the elders to come and " pay their last respects" so to speak. They would not come up to my hospital room because I was disfellowshipped. I grew up with these men as my uncles, it was the most disheartening experience of my life. They acted like they didn't even know me. My mom told me that " If your not going to be in the paradise then I might as well get used to it now". That is why she won't talk to me or my children. When I asked her what my children had to do with my leaving. She said they will pay for your sins from 10 generations from now. Cold B___!
My point- I think the christians way of handling "sinners" as you put it, is a much kinder, more loving way.
I personally don't believe in a heaven, hell, or a paradise earth. But I guess I'll find out when I'm dead. God help the world if power ever really did belong in their hands! Communist countries will seem like teletubbie land compared to the "paradise earth".
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Silent Lambs campaign
by kittyeatzjdubs inhey!
is anyone participating in the silent lambs campaign where they're sticking the flyers in the doors of kingdom halls?
i'm seriously thinking about it, but i'm going for the gusto!
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love11
I'd love to help out. But just the thought of it made my face turn white as a ghost and my stomach turn over. I don't think I could handle being that close to the enemy... if you know what I mean. But best of wishes to you!
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M y Parents replied for non family business! hurray!
by Crumpet inanyone who remembered my earlier posting saying how i had texted my parents thanking them on my birthday for giving me life and telling them that i was happy here is part 2!
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love11
You've gone and made me cry!
Keep it up... keep bugging them until they have to remember that you are a good person and not the evil jezabel that the jw's say dis-f people are. God... that is wonderful. I'm so happy for you. Love11
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If there's some good in the Watchtower, why leave it?
by AlmostAtheist inthe post about crisis of conscience in which the poster said he knows there's some bad in the watchtower (as brought out in coc), but there's some good in it too got me to wondering about people that stay for the good in it.. the united states makes some decisions as a country that i don't agree with, perhaps even object strongly to.
but i don't disavow my citizenship.
it's mostly a good place to live, so i stay.. if you want to live in a way that utterly conflicts with the watchtower -- homosexual, multiple sex partners, smoking, whatever -- then you have reason to leave.
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love11
Brenda- That's too bad that they tried to put that mind control on you by acting like you were carrying the past generation of sins with you. That's terrible to do that to people. Don't you believe it for one second! They're all twisted.
p.s. That's why you should leave it! They don't call it a cult for no reason at all.