i wish psychedelic drugs were *decriminalized*, so i would not have to hide the exploration of my *own mind* from men with guns on their hips.
what a highdea!
tetra
if i could have just one wish, i would have a tasty fish!
end world hunger?
cure aids?
i'm leaning toward equal education for everyone, with heavy emphasis in the fields of science and history.
i wish psychedelic drugs were *decriminalized*, so i would not have to hide the exploration of my *own mind* from men with guns on their hips.
what a highdea!
tetra
if i could have just one wish, i would have a tasty fish!
i'd be babylon the great.
always looked like she was having a good time seducing kings of the earth and getting hammered off of holy peoples' blood whilst bronco riding that multiheaded, horned furry cat thing.
fbf.
FBF,
okay.
i choose satan. HA HA HA HA !!!
tetra
i am already thinking of ideas.
my sister had an online relationship with a man from holland (they are now married in the us) anyhow, they would send eachother packages and the coolest things he would send was different foods from there... cookies the us doesn't have, chocolate spread for toast.... this is my first gift exchange since i was a kid, so anyone have some ideas?
( is this kosher to ask?
I think you should write US a poem after you get that package. ;-)
HA HA! well, you may actually be surprised at the familiarity of some of the concepts...
i'd be babylon the great.
always looked like she was having a good time seducing kings of the earth and getting hammered off of holy peoples' blood whilst bronco riding that multiheaded, horned furry cat thing.
fbf.
lol! y all totally crack me up.
but i'm with stilla in all seriousness.
satan stood for freedom of thought. satan was the one who told us we are gods. satan never lied once. satan was the first apostate, something we should all be able to appreciate here at jwd. jesus was also an apostate, to judaism, but satan was the first, to yhwhism.
that of course is borne out of our old literal interpretation of the bible though.
in the enlightened metaphorical view, satan stood for our coming of age as a species, when we realized our own natural divinity. and if you still think satan was/is a bad guy, i would like to remind you that satan and yhwh were once considered the same person.
:)
tetra
well since maybe you are no longer a jw any more..............you have that option!.
good idea?.
giving your sons or daughters to the "gods of war" .
hi FBF!
Remember my friend, laws govern all of us. Even the Buddha and his followers had to beg for food.
yes, i agree. one important lesson i have learned, is that i live by the grace of others. even people who i consider "violent and dumb". bush for example. i really, really, really, really, really dislike the man, and what he represents. and yet, i live by his grace, since he could kill me, or enslave me any time he wanted to (not that he knows i even exist, of course).
thx.
hi jag!
Tetra are you talking about the Republican party in the United States? Bush's followers.
no jag, i am talkng about all homo sapiens who have not yet shed their meat. in other words, all fundamentalist/violent/ignorant/arrogant people. some are rebublicans, some are arabs, some are buddhists, some are dems, some are my neighbors, and some are yours.
the issue is so much larger than bush, and the repubs.
when i talk about getting peaceful, and educating ourselves, and obtaining inner peace for the sake of outer peace, i am talking about nothing other than the evolution of our own species.
evolution, peace, sentience, love,
tetra
i think bush's method of fighting terrorism only creates more terrorism.
the us government has acted like a terrorist to the people in iraq, such actions canonly lead to more justification in the minds of would be terrorist.
six,
Somewhere we must come to see that human progress never rolls in on the wheels of inevitability."man, i totally agree with this. humans have to start consciously taking charge and creating their own world, instead of thinking that the world, and the powers that be, control(s) them.
and when you are a member of the most materially powerful country on earth, politics is, of course, very important, because the rest of the world depends on people in that country helping the rest of the world out.
and if the government one day said, "well, we think politics is retarded, and we are done with it. go in peace children of the light!" there would be hell to pay. for two reasons:
1. the populace has not learned how to think for and manage themselves/earth. 2. there would be a line of war mongers ready to take over the pentagon.
politics reek of insincerity, to me. but i agree, we need it right now.
on the upside, i do think there is an overall trend towards liberalism ("liberty" has lost it's meaning), not just in politics either, over the course of the last 5000 years. so, we're headed in the right direction! more psychedelic drugs for descision makers! more evolutionary biology for children in school!
big-ups!
tetra
well since maybe you are no longer a jw any more..............you have that option!.
good idea?.
giving your sons or daughters to the "gods of war" .
lilly,
i agree too, and if divine intervention ever came to help the situation, i would welcome it of course. why would i fight it? ;)
i am actually one atheist that is coming to feel that we can have world peace with all the different religions, as long as people in the religions are moderate, including non believers. we have to focus on the things we all have in common, instead of the systemic differences in our beliefs. but even more so, i do not think it is religions or beliefs that cause violence, but just the nature of humans, actually.
i used to laugh and scoff at religious people who tried to marry religion and science, or spiritual belief and science, because the two really don't go together technically. but now i am coming to appreciate that if religious people can keep their religious beliefs, AND learn more about our nature and why we are violent, biologically and psychologically, then this will go a long way toward world peace. because understanding our nature, means coming to acceptance of it. and acceptance means inner peace. and inner peace means outer peace, and by extension, world peace.
but i am hopeful, regardless! why would i be any other way? :)
thanks for the dialog, i learned something from it.
take care,
tetra
many remarks seem to in indicate they have no redeeming believes......................i can't agree.. i appreciate lots a things about the way i was raised.. 1. pacifism, nonviolence.
sad even though i was a pacifist, my god jehovah was an angry pissed off god who one day wants to kill most everyone...............guess he (her) needs to practice what he (her) preaches.........anyway i'm so happy that they taught me something even their god is having a hard time with!.
2.and most important......................................well i can't remember right now......but when it comes to me, i'll let you know.. newboy.
hi newboy! i like your threads!
i totally agree about the non violence thing. it's too bad that i had to be a jw to learn that though, since so many other practices teach this too.
i like the fruitage of the spirit, and to love others as we would love ourselves. the only thing i think that jesus missed there is, 'and if you don't love yourself, then that is still no excuse to abuse others.'
apart from that, i liked ecc. 9:11
tetra
recently i did some research on "light".
it fascinated me that there are several greek words used but merely the one in english.. jwv phos foce from an obsolete phao (to shine or make manifest, especially by rays; compare 5316, 5346); luminousness (in the widest application, natural or artificial, abstract or concrete, literal or figurative):--fire, light.. matthew 4:16-17 the people who sat in darkness saw a great light, to those who sat in the region and shadow of death, to them light has dawned.
" from that time, jesus began to preach, and to say, "repent!
hi apostate kate,
where do the bethel boys get their new light from?
not from photeinos, that's for sure.
thanks for the research. cool stuff. :)
tetra
well since maybe you are no longer a jw any more..............you have that option!.
good idea?.
giving your sons or daughters to the "gods of war" .
hi lilly,
i understand that you are not pro-war.
I would agree with you on that if it was a perfect world but it is not.
this is one place where we disagree, i guess. i believe that the world, in all it's tragic horridness, and illuminated beauty, is indeed perfect.
And man is hell bent on dominating other man and they are more concerned with power than peace.
yes, true! but this is also like saying that because other people are violent, and suffering, that we should also be violent and suffer too, imo. and to me, this is unacceptable.
The way things stand in the world today we will totally self destruct unless there is either 1. an act of God to change the world or 2. man will succeed in wiping out most of humanity and those left will learn from that mistake and make real peace.
or 3. everyone has a change of mind and starts being peaceful. you see, we don't need a big catastrophy to learn a lesson. the last 50 000 years of ape violence should be enough.
i don't believe in any Gods other than ourselves. perhaps this is another place we disagree. but what i do believe in, is human potentiality in the now.
revolutions, including the peaceful ones, don't happen in the future. they happen now. the now is where revolutions get steam from. i believe that all it would take is a shift in understanding in people to begin living in the now, instead of the future, for there to be world peace. silly thought of mine? well, try it~! :)
But I cannot see any change in our future and every country has to have an army to protect it. It is a fact of this life.
it's not a fact, it's a tradition. traditions are rules. rules can be reviewed and broken. all it takes is will and dedication. i know people can do it, because i did it, and so many people i know have done it.
peace,
tetra