Kats,
I've sent you a Yahoo IM. You know me but don't out me yet. I am more effective working behind the scenes.
Anyways, hope to talk to you soon.
i just got this email from the founder of this jw board... i wonder which "large apostate board" he is talking about.
(this whole thing makes me think of spy vs. spy): .
date:10 jul 2002 12:02:30 -0700to:from:[email protected] | block address | add to address booksubject:ofn message board to close down
Kats,
I've sent you a Yahoo IM. You know me but don't out me yet. I am more effective working behind the scenes.
Anyways, hope to talk to you soon.
i know of a presiding overseer who has recently got rid of the modem and internet connections on his pc.
the reason given was that he didnt use it enough to make the monthly expense worthwhile.. but i wonder?.
have there been any local needs items or talks recently about whether it is wise to use the internet?.
I don't think the WTBS can ban the internet totally. The Nov 99 KM didn't budge PLN, JWZone and livekast.com. There is a new breed of JWs out there and they don't listen to a bunch of old men anymore.
i was just reading over there and thought some of them should really think before they post!
some real jerk posted this: umm, don't count your time spent eating lunch - unless you witness to the waitress.
give her a real tip - how to get into the new system.. .
I stumbled upon this site accidentally while doing a search on JWS. They think they are hidden from 'apostates' views, mwahahaha!
And their discussion board:
At the end of the month.
sixty minutes covered this story a month ago and meet the press brought it up again this morning when rumsfeld was interviewed.... when stationing troops in foreign countries, the u.s. military tries to abide by the rules of the country.
in saudi arabia, the custom for women in public is that they wear an abaya, a floor-length, long-sleeve, loose-fitting garment that covers everything but the face.
air force lt. col. martha mcsally filed a lawsuit against the pentagon, arguing that the policy was discriminatory because men are not required to dress in traditional muslim garments.. when interviewed on sixty minutes, mcsally was so offended by the garment that she would not put it on just to demonstrate what it looked like.
As a foreign woman whose country is now host to American servicemen--I have to agree with teejay and Expatbrit.
When you set foot in a foreign country--you should leave and forget your American ways, customs, beliefs and traditions. You cannot compare your country to your host country. You cannot tell us what's wrong with our government because you are just a guest. Try telling the host of the party things that you don't like about his party and lets see him throw you out.
So McSally's lawsuit is actually her show of arrogance and indifference to her host country. What she should have done is spare the American people this embarrasment and should have begged off from this assignment. Or she could have just stayed inside the barracks and serve this brand of arrogance to her peers. Give me a freakin' break.
And to say that women is not respected in that country because she has to wear the shawl is a crock full of dung. C'mon, that is their traditional garb--their symbol of respectability and modesty.
Don't tell us how to dress and how to act. When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
ya know the bickering, flaming and fights happening here has become so stale--i would rather eat my 4 day old rotten fish.. why can't they just take it outside?
that way they don't clutter the board with useless info.
Ya know the bickering, flaming and fights happening here has become so stale--I would rather eat my 4 day old rotten fish.
Why can't they just take it outside? That way they don't clutter the board with useless info.
i've been reading in search of christian freedom this past few days (my hublet and i bought isocf, coc and two of carl jonsson's book--which my hubby love to read).. anyways, i've finished reading the legalism chapter and was kinda amused at the real story behind the change in baptism questions in the 80s.
i was baptized in '77 and my hubby got dunked in '89.. so, i basically can walk away from it all--and get this, i can threaten to sue the elders because i wasn't baptized into the organization.
but my hubby have to da himself because the jw is his ecclesiastical authority.
Hi Star,
Don't push your new found truth to your husband. I took it one day at a time and let him see the destructiveness of this cult.
He was serving as a MS when we abruptly stopped attending the meetings. He got tired of the constant nagging by the CO and elders to do more. This was when I just had my baby and our son was constantly sick at the time. And during those sick days, no one from the congregation even called except one elder who never failed to ask about our service hours every month.
The thing about my husband is that he questions everything and always incredulous at new spiritual things so its very easy to sway (haha) him.
I am like your husband--family in the truth, did all the right things like pioneering, serving at Bethel (some branch in Asia). I never questioned anything.
What got me was the generation change. And that started it all. I guess my husband was ripe at the time for the picking and the time was right when I questioned this change. And that paved the way for our departure.
Don't get me wrong--I am not fully out yet although inactive. I still have family and I want them out. I cannot accomplish this if I decided to make it formal. I'm plotting out a way for them.
Just be yourself and let him know that whatever path you take--you'll always love him unconditionally. Thats what I told hubby. And show that love. Pretty soon he'll be able to compare your brand of love from the JW's.
Good luck.
i've been reading in search of christian freedom this past few days (my hublet and i bought isocf, coc and two of carl jonsson's book--which my hubby love to read).. anyways, i've finished reading the legalism chapter and was kinda amused at the real story behind the change in baptism questions in the 80s.
i was baptized in '77 and my hubby got dunked in '89.. so, i basically can walk away from it all--and get this, i can threaten to sue the elders because i wasn't baptized into the organization.
but my hubby have to da himself because the jw is his ecclesiastical authority.
I've been reading In Search of Christian Freedom this past few days (my hublet and I bought ISOCF, COC and two of Carl Jonsson's book--which my hubby love to read).
Anyways, I've finished reading the Legalism chapter and was kinda amused at the real story behind the change in baptism questions in the 80s. I was baptized in '77 and my hubby got dunked in '89.
So, I basically can walk away from it all--and get this, I can threaten to sue the elders because I wasn't baptized into the organization. But my hubby have to DA himself because the JW is his ecclesiastical authority. What a piece of crock LOL! We laughed about it last night. One thing my hubby has over me is that he doesn't have family in this cult while I have over half of mine.
part 18: the last stand my brothers gift .
i had almost forgotten about my brothers gift.
the amalgamated wedding was now well over 2 years in the past.
Didn't you say that your brother looked like Mel Gibson? God, I love that guy and never miss any of his movies.
You know, your brother might be even reading this saga and getting a kick out of it. Too funny. Thanks for the series, I really enjoyed them.
seeing that most of those on this forum love to judge others (although the complaint is that jws do the same thing), i am willing to go through a judicial committee.. if you see fit not to forgive, please disfellowship me and shun me.
No, I'm just exposing a liar. I'm a member of both under a different handle and I'm pretty sure I've seen that picture before.
Nice try though.