just been reaffirmed of another.....was just reading the new org book on dealing with judicial cases...i did everything i was supposed to do and by that i mean not acting but genuinely...and the commitee did not do one thing that was remotely even organizational far less scriptural....and they ruined my life and they all still serving as elders.....btw another elder in my cong spoke out at the unfair treatment that i was getting....so they removed him for causing divisions...how much bigger an admision can there be for knowing that they were wrong than to damage the credibility of the one person who posed a threat...tijkmo
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17What Profound ironies do you know about?
by Siddhashunyata inin another thread big tex related a story about the memorial wine that was so ironic that i thought maybe others saw profound irony in some of their experiences.
for example i recall a brother who gave up a military pension 2 years before retirement in order to pioneer for jehovah.. he would deride another brother for working long hours at his business ( auto repair business) and who spent virtually no time in field service.
years passed, the pioneer brother became needy and had to stop pioneering in order to work while the other brother had saved enough to retire and pioneer.
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What Profound ironies do you know about?
by Siddhashunyata inin another thread big tex related a story about the memorial wine that was so ironic that i thought maybe others saw profound irony in some of their experiences.
for example i recall a brother who gave up a military pension 2 years before retirement in order to pioneer for jehovah.. he would deride another brother for working long hours at his business ( auto repair business) and who spent virtually no time in field service.
years passed, the pioneer brother became needy and had to stop pioneering in order to work while the other brother had saved enough to retire and pioneer.
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tijkmo
check out.....t.i.j.k.m.o. explained .....nows there's irony for ya
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t.i.j.k.m.o. explained
by tijkmo inmy favourite band for a long time now is called marillion...not big in usa...bigger in uk and bigger still in europe...i'm sure that the songwriter had been through something similar to myself as many of the songs reflect the exact same feelings and frustrations as me..and many a night i would put on a cd and cry myself to sleep....one of my all time favourite lines in a song..which i wish id written is- when you list all the qualities that you despise..and you realise..you're describing yourself.... anyway on an album called-holidays in eden-(sic)..there is a song called-100 nights- and one verse reads this way:-.
they invite me to their gatherings.
in the finer parts or town.
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fleaman...yeah im in paisley.do you know the area....marillion were great in the 80s but the lead singer got the boot and was replaced by a better singer and the whole band got better still...now more pink floyd than early genesis...check out brave..afraid of sunlight..this strange engine and marbles..brill
candidly...i didnt post my sexual fantasy...merely a fact...the irony is that all the bros & sis that are the object of others fantasies are oblivious to it.... but should the fantasiser act upon his/her fantasies who would be most to blame..
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In need of support . . .
by Candlestick02 ini've been reading this forum for a few years now and it is only now that i come to you all for some helpful advice and support.. i'll try not to get too detailed w/ my story, cause i can tend to ramble (hence the non-posting a lot, cause i usually check the forum at work and i'd be on here all the time) .
but here it is.. i've been da'd for about 6 years now.
that's going great and my life is happy - now out of the borg.
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u may think im not in any position to offer any support if you know anything about my story...because i was...'your dad' if you know what i mean....however before you decide that i have no right to say anything please hear me out....
im not sure what the secret codes are specifically that you refer to but i do know that when i was involved with someone other than my wife then you do find ways to be secret about it and yes that involved codes and messages that only we understood...i would not like anyone else to be able to understand these mainly because it would be embarrassing to them but i dont think there is any danger in them beyond the damage already done...
do you think your dad acted out of character...i know it would be easy to lay all the blame at his feet esp with the time element you mention but im sorry but that may not nessercarally be the case...was it someone in the cong he was involved in..sadly even in the truth girls are not so niave as to be unaware of what they are doing or the damage it will do..i think it is unlikely that she did not know that your dad was married unless he told her otherwise..
do you have contact with your mother even though you are d/a...this will be an additional anguish for her when she most needs support..you need to make her aware that you are there for her but dont force yourself on her if that is just going to worry her even more at this point...but keep checking up that she is doing ok and reaffirm your love for her and willingness to help whenever she is ready...she will be getting some help in the cong at the moment because its 'exciting' for everyone but sadly this will not be resolved quickly and everyone else will move on with their lives..
does she want to forgive him and is he wanting to attempt to reconcile....if the answer is yes to this then tell her to start right away...the fact that he is d/f is not a consideration in reconciliation and ignore the org ruling on no spiritual association between man and wife because that may be all they have to build on at the moment....but if he is not wanting to reconcile then dont let anyone in the hall-pub,elder,co even tell her that j. hates a divorcing and that she would be expected to show forgiveness if she doesnt want to do this..whether or not it is what your dad wants.
if your dad doesnt want to reconcile then tell her to make a decision after a reasonable time to let him go..no good will come to your mum to be vindictive or to postpone severing the relationship..either way he is still your dad and any recovery is unlikely to happen if everyone treats him like crap if this is in fact only a mistake...i say 'only'.....you know what i mean.....remember too that you are probably only getting your mums side of the story and she may not be telling you everything..you wont know for example whether there were already problems because your parents would not have wanted you to know and rightly so..its none of your business...but you may find out things now about both your parents that you do not wish to know....ignore it the best you can and continue to show support to both.
I wish you well in your efforts to salvage something from this..you have a long journey ahead...and pm me if you wish to speak privately..sad to say i do know what im talking about..tijkmo
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Morning worship comment from Bethel
by Smoky ini received this email from a friend of a friend:.
'comments made by brother lett at morning worship today.. the comments were about the work we have of bearing witness of the truth.
" again, the angels make note of it.. we knock at the fifth house and again no one is home.
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since when have angels been able to read hearts...is this a new thought
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Witness Sister Alone At Our Door on Sunday ..No knock ..Just Silence
by adelmaal init was pretty odd.
we had a jw sister come to our door on sunday by herself.
she walked up really slowly and quietly.
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yup..been there done that.....and i loved the ministry
dansk comment reminded me of a service meeting discussing retisence on the part of some...where it was said that some in the cong have sponges for knockers....cue much hilarity from those who were awake
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t.i.j.k.m.o. explained
by tijkmo inmy favourite band for a long time now is called marillion...not big in usa...bigger in uk and bigger still in europe...i'm sure that the songwriter had been through something similar to myself as many of the songs reflect the exact same feelings and frustrations as me..and many a night i would put on a cd and cry myself to sleep....one of my all time favourite lines in a song..which i wish id written is- when you list all the qualities that you despise..and you realise..you're describing yourself.... anyway on an album called-holidays in eden-(sic)..there is a song called-100 nights- and one verse reads this way:-.
they invite me to their gatherings.
in the finer parts or town.
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hey crumpet..(is that you in the pic btw)...gig was great...drummer didnt turn up so someone else deputised who didnt know any of the songs...and the lead guitarist got so wasted he couldnt play any guitar solos and the bassist couldnt tune her borrowed bass....BUT I ROCKED THE KASBAH....oh well wasnt expecting to get a multi-million pound record deal on our first night anyway
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t.i.j.k.m.o. explained
by tijkmo inmy favourite band for a long time now is called marillion...not big in usa...bigger in uk and bigger still in europe...i'm sure that the songwriter had been through something similar to myself as many of the songs reflect the exact same feelings and frustrations as me..and many a night i would put on a cd and cry myself to sleep....one of my all time favourite lines in a song..which i wish id written is- when you list all the qualities that you despise..and you realise..you're describing yourself.... anyway on an album called-holidays in eden-(sic)..there is a song called-100 nights- and one verse reads this way:-.
they invite me to their gatherings.
in the finer parts or town.
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my favourite band for a long time now is called Marillion...not big in usa...bigger in uk and bigger still in europe...i'm sure that the songwriter had been through something similar to myself as many of the songs reflect the exact same feelings and frustrations as me..and many a night i would put on a cd and cry myself to sleep....one of my all time favourite lines in a song..which i wish id written is- When you list all the qualities that you despise..and you realise..you're describing yourself...
Anyway on an album called-Holidays in Eden-(sic)..there is a song called-100 nights- and one verse reads this way:-
They invite me to their gatherings
In the finer parts or town
They seem attracted to my indifference
The Irony Just Knocks Me Out........which = T.I.J.K.M.O
My bestest friend and i used to say this to each other all the time whenever something ironic happened..he was a younger version of me and we were both fascinated by the eccentricities of the english language...aswell as having so many other things in common..music sport meeting parts quick builds etc etc.....and this is especially poignant as someone spread a horrible rumour that we had engaged in homosexual activity (sorry you alternative lifestylers....but it just wasnt true and is therefore slanderous)..and the elders chose to believe not the rumour because they knew that wasnt true but that i had started it in an attempt to distract from my own misdemeanours...how sad is that...well not as sad as my friend choosing to believe it too......god i miss him
So there you have it...bit of an anti-climax eh
How many anti-climaxes does it take to change a light bulb.............................................one
anyway a classic example of tijkmo is this conversation i had with my mother when she said i was on the road to becoming a victim of the devil because i couldnt get over the way i had been treated...i said-think about this....the devil told me he was out to get me..he didnt try to hide that..he was going to keep tempting me until i succombed.....j. told me i wouldnt be tempted beyond what i could bear but i would be shown a way out..and even if i made a mistake i would be forgiven on the basis of repentance and i would never be abandoned but i would be helped by a loving organization with kind merciful princes ruling for justice itself.....so i asked...who told the truth
Her response...well you cant have been truly repentant
tijkmo
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Counselling for depression......
by Jodo insorry, i don't want this to sound like a "woe is me" thread, but i just wanted to know of any positive or negative experiences with counselling....i've been offered it before but have put it off, and off (and off).
today i have a doctor's appointment and am going to request it......but i'm a little wary of the thought.
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tijkmo
yes..i would have followed party policy and frowned on anyone seeking 'worldly' help and certainly avoided it myself...but the truth is i would prob not be alive now if i hadnt gotten such help..and someday i may well be grateful for that...make sure its someone reputable..and i found the most helpful of counsellers was the one that didnt just listen (although that of course is nessercary) but also offered practical reachable solutions and arranged for positive activities to be a part of....hope you find what you are looking for....tijkmo
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first gig
by tijkmo inhey guys im at college doing a music course..and the first thing they do is throw 3 or 4 people together and tell them to come up with 5 songs to play at a gig.....so our first gig is tonight..weve been together for bout 8 wks...wish me luck
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hey guys im at college doing a music course..and the first thing they do is throw 3 or 4 people together and tell them to come up with 5 songs to play at a gig.....so our first gig is tonight..weve been together for bout 8 wks...wish me luck