Gordy - Here in the states, it is considered a sign of "spiritual weakness" to purchase a 2 door car because a 2 door car is not easy to use in service. When I bought my little sporty car, I remember well the comments ( only came from a select few) about the poor choice of vehicle - didn't seem to register with the "critics" that I never went out anyways!
caligirl
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What was the funniest counsel/encouragement you rec'd from an elder ???
by run dont walk inkind of similiar to minimus question, this one got me thinking.. the funniest for me has to be the elders telling me i should buy a 4-door car for field service and not to buy a camaro.
i almost believed them.
telling me in would not be proper to drive that in field service.
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When is a Gift a Reward? (Worship Bk chap 7)
by ozziepost inare you entitled to receive a gift?
that might sound like a silly question to many people.
after all, a gift is something freely given, from the heart, so how could you demand a gift, or say that you have earned it?
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caligirl
The idea that I was being told I had to earn a gift never did sit well with me. It is not a gift if there are any strings attached to it. They take so many things out of context and offer definitions that go so far beyond what is written in their interpretations. The scripture where Jesus says that the yoke he offers is kindly and the load light stands in stark contrast to what is required of a good little witness who's gift has been taken away by men and replaced with salvation that must be earned by service to men. I remember thinking as a teen that if what was expected of everyone was considered a light load, then I would HATE to see what the heavy one felt like!
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Will you ever do another "list"?
by onacruse inha!
i beat min and jh to a question!
(eat your hearts out, guys!
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caligirl
I think it is impossible to include everyone on lists such as this. I also do not think that being left off a list such as these means that no one wants to meet you. I don't think that those who respond to the threads are in any way saying that they absolutely positively would want to meet only the person(s) they listed, and that many times those listed may simply be the ones who immediately come to mind when they are typing their replies - in no way meant to slight anyone or hurt anyones feelings.
My 2 cents on the subject: I was not listed ( to my knowledge) I don't take it personally. In order to take it personally, I would have to assume that everyone who responded was deliberately saying that they have no interest whatsoever in meeting me, which I know would be untrue, unfair and highly unreasonable to assume, as it would mean assigning motive to anyone who posted a response. And I definitlely do not beleive that anything beyond curiosity or starting a conversation sparks the starting of threads such as this and the threads are in no way meant to hurt anyone or make anyone feel unwanted or unimportant to this forum.
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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 6-1-03 WT Study
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the june 1, 2003 wt study
april 15, 2003 wt page 17 .
wt quotes will be in red.
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caligirl
The idea of my stepson hearing this garbage tomorrow just makes me sick. At least when he is with us he gets to see a normal life and enjoy himself, and that exposure to what life can really be like will hopefully save him from the whole mess when he is 18.
I notice that they ask for BRIEF comments - wouldn't want those young ones taking too much hot air time from the conductor!
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District Assembly talks about apostates............
by integ indistrict assembly 5/24/03 3:40 pm "beware of the voice of strangers".. 1) counterfeit words: beware of those using "counterfeit words".
2) flirting: young ones need to avoid being lured into relationships with un-believers.. 3) you trust your christian parents...listen to them.
you also trust those taking the lead among you..such as elders.
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caligirl
Well if they can't answer a simple question based on their own alleged truth with all the "divine connections and guidance", it does a hell of a lot more than make them "appear" to be wrong!
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From San Diego, CA I'am a new member.
by AXEL inhi brothers and sisters,.
i am a new member of this forum.
i attend to the kearny mesa congretation in san diego.. thanks.
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Welcome!
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If you decided to try a church, which one would you try?and why?
by LyinEyes ini have been thinking of doing something i have wanted to for along time, just to see, that is go to a church.
i guess i am a little afraid , or nervous , more than anything, but i feel i ready to venture out there and see what it is about,,,,,,,,,,,lol, i might not stay , i just want to try it.. i just want to give it a chance and right now i have no reason why i shouldnt if i go in with my eyes open.
i dont know what religion to start with,,,,,,,,, i figure this may be a journey on finding what feels right to me, or it could end up i stay home and do my own worship , who knows.. i know there are many christains on this board and i would be interested in hearing why you choose the faith you did, if it is methodist, catholic, baptist, or other mainstream ones.. i am also interested in other forms of religion some have choosen, and why?
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We have been to a few non-denominational services, and I actually for the first time felt good when it was over. One of the things that was said by the pastor of one church we went to was that if you are part of a church that claims it alone is the only way to salvation, RUN and don't go back because no church/religion has the right to claim to be the soul connection. I will never belong to an organized religion again.
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Astrology... and your moon sign...
by MrMoe inso, we all know our sun sign, right?
welll... your moon represents inner emotions/inner self, and as far as inner person goes, is a very key sign.
it also shows the role your mother had in your life!
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caligirl
Interesting stuff Mr. Moe! I never gave a thought to looking deeper than the basic sign. I don't agree with all of what it says, but a good portion of it seems to describe me quite well. Do you have more details to offer, or a different interpretation than this site gave me?
Sun and Moon in Aquarius
This astrological combination indicates refinement of character and a generally altruistic attitude toward humanity. The first impression others have of you is one of friendliness and sincerity. Your thinking tends to be positive. You remain self-reliant and optimistic, even under trying circumstances. Your ideas are progressive, and because you present them so well, they are rarely offensive to anyone, even though unconventional. You are well suited for a public career because of your genuine concern, originality, and capacity to work with people. Individual love is to you an extension of your universal love of mankind. You display an even temper and preserve your equanimity most of the time. However, your feelings, although sincere, keep you somewhat detached from your love partner. The key to a more harmonious existence lies in playing up the humane, progressive, and sociable aspects of your personality, while lessening the detached and inscrutable conduct that is the paradox of your nature.
Ascendant in Aquarius, Uranus in the Eighth House
At the time of your birth the zodiacal sign of Aquarius was ascending in the horizon. Its ruler Uranus is located in the eighth house.
You were born with a natural disposition to be humane, sympathetic, original and refined in your dealings with others. Among your features is the ability to understand human nature in a sympathetic manner. Unfortunately, you do not always act upon your intuitions and may become rationalistic at times when swift and prompt determination is required.
The common Aquarian is good and kindly, but usually led astray by eccentric and bizarre companions.
Your tastes are refined and your discrimination keen. You have a natural inclination toward the esoteric and mystical side of life and you could develop some clairvoyant abilities. Basically you are a lover of freedom; in the realization of this desire you may go to extremes.
Although changeable in appearance, your life is guided by very definite and fixed principles, one of which is a constant demand for personal freedom. In love you are a strange character. You can easily be emotionally attracted to one person and yet unpredictably terminate relationships.
As an inventor you have no rival; your problem is that sometimes you lack the practical ability to implement your creations. Professionally you will be successful in any of the following fields of activity: modern science, electrical work, photography, archaeology, astrology, radio etc.
Physically, Uranus, as the ruler of your life in this house, gives a liability to uncommon nervous ailments.
You are going to undergo much anxiety and worry from business dealings in which your partner is involved or which may arise due to some estate or inheritance left to you. It is very possible that sudden financial gains will be obtained through your partner. Psychologically, your ruler in the eighth house must give you, at some point in life, an interest in the esoteric and mystical.
Sun in the First House
The Sun is in the first house. You are by nature energetic, proud and self-assertive. You project yourself enthusiastically and energetically into all situations. Your naturally outgoing disposition and personable manner usually make a good impression on people.
Your heightened self-perception puts you in touch with a strong sense of will, and you can manipulate your will to suit your aims and desires in life. This position of the Sun gives the capacity for leadership, for you tend to attract people and to have a strong influence on them when they are with you.
You do not like to depend on others, but you hold on to your friends, for they are usually pleased to help you when you need it. You are willing to help close friends who are deserving, but only if you know that your efforts will be appreciated.
You often prefer to work alone. However, this is not your only choice, for you adapt well to working with people as long as you are free to express yourself. With a first-house Sun, there is a tendency to overestimate your own worth, but through repeated contacts with others you will inevitably come to a more realistic appraisal of your abilities and potential.
Moon in the First House
The Moon is in the first house. This position indicates that you are strongly influenced by your feelings and moods.
Your awareness of yourself is influenced by your momentary feelings, and this perception is subject to rapid changes of mood and emotion. In time, you will learn to understand why you react as you do to various situations, and then you can begin to change your response patterns and take more control of your life.
Others sense your lack of emotional self-sufficiency and tend to get involved in your personal affairs, even if you try to prevent it. You express your sensitivity through an emotional need to nurture and be nurtured by others. While you would like to have guidance and supervision concerning your goals and objectives, it would be better to achieve your aims independently so that you will not feel obligated to others.
The advantage of this position lies in your ability to sense other people's needs and desires.
In fact, you have a calming effect on people who are under stress, and this makes you ideally suited for working with the public.
Venus in the First House
Venus is in the first house. This is a strong position for Venus, for it adds charm to your personality and gives you an amiable and pleasant disposition.
You concentrate a great deal on your appearance and even if you are not especially beautiful or handsome, you have a quality of softness and friendliness, which endears you to many.
You like to keep beauty and grace around you as much as possible. You have a strong affinity with nature and prefer the quiet life of the country to the plastic constructions of city life.
It is likely that you grew up in an atmosphere of warmth and congeniality. Now it is easy for you to project these same feelings to family and friends, and others often count on you to restore peace in difficult situations.
You have strong inclinations toward music, art and drama and you may wish to cultivate a form of artistic expression.
You work very hard to get along with others, and you usually try to win arguments with diplomacy rather than force. You must learn to be self-assertive when necessary and to stand up for your own rights, forcefully if need be. Otherwise, people will not have much respect for you.
Relationships are important to you, and you often go out of your way to initiate them. It is vital that your associations remain harmonious, because quarrels and disputes affect you adversely.
Note: Venus is technically near the end of house 12 and is therefore interpreted in house 1.
Venus Conjunct Ascendant
Venus conjunct the Ascendant indicates that you have a personable manner and social charm, which win you the approval of everyone you deal with. This is exactly the sanction you seek, for above all, you want to be accepted. You find it easy to make whatever compromises are necessary to get what you desire. However, you may not succeed in convincing everyone that you are only acting the part of the conniver. Regardless of the image you present to observers, underneath the surface is a calculating machine on which you count the advantages and disadvantages of every association or friendship, every social contact and social function.
You are usually well behaved and refined, but when you can not get what you want, you become extremely aggressive and demanding.
Learn to tone down your self-seeking and spend some time developing the more substantial talents that will make you worthy of the gifts you seek.
Saturn in the Fourth House
Saturn was found in the fourth house at the time of your birth. Both the first and, especially the last epoch of your life, will be challenged with multiple duties, frustrations, and problems in general, that seem to originate from circumstances very difficult to alter.
A rather cold childhood may leave deep marks on your subconscious. This could lead to a sense of fear and distrust in the world that is not conducive to success in human relations and communications.
You may feel that your personal freedom is greatly hindered and this will cause you to suffer. Saturn indicates the narrow and dangerous path between our animal nature and our spiritual abode. This path is reason which can lead us from the binds of bestial attachment to the higher states of consciousness. Your unfortunate experience may be a test of fate over your reasoning powers. Don't be "felled" by lower emotions nor be "tormented" by depressive ideas arising from the unknown. You must think and feel by your own volition.
Jupiter Conjunct Ascendant
With Jupiter conjunct the Ascendant, you are the picture of optimism. You do nothing in moderation because you are always hopeful that some of your excesses will work out for the best in the long run. You are ambitious, but in satisfying your ambitions, you attempt more than is possible for you.
You are generous, kind, sympathetic, benevolent, and the delight of anyone seeking a contribution in a fund-raising campaign, since you are a soft touch. You are too open with private or classified information. Try to be more conservative and serious.
Portrait - Short Editionfor (female) born on 4 Feb 1973 local time 06:24 am in (US) U.T. 11:24 72w15, 43n39 sid. time 15:32:56 Planetary positions planet sign degree house motion Sun Aquarius 15°31'16 01 direct Moon Aquarius 28°23'17 01 direct Mercury Aquarius 20°23'31 01 direct Venus Capricorn 29°37'07 12/1 direct Venus is technically near the end of house 12 and is interpreted in house 1. Mars Sagittarius 24°35'49 11 direct Jupiter Capricorn 25°49'20 12 direct Saturn Gemini 13°42'40 04 retrograde Uranus Libra 23°01'51 08 retrograde Neptune Sagittarius 07°07'52 10 direct Pluto Libra 04°11'25 08 retrograde True Node Capricorn 16°36'33 12 retrograde House positions (Placidus) Ascendant Aquarius 00°42'10 2nd House Pisces 19°50'52 3rd House Aries 28°51'25 Imum Coeli Taurus 25°34'10 5th House Gemini 16°31'52 6th House Cancer 06°29'48 Descendant Leo 00°42'10 8th House Virgo 19°50'52 9th House Libra 28°51'25 Medium Coeli Scorpio 25°34'10 11th House Sagittarius 16°31'52 12th House Capricorn 06°29'48 Major aspects Sun Conjunction Mercury 4°52 Sun Trine Saturn 1°49 Sun Trine Uranus 7°31 Moon Conjunction Mercury 8°00 Moon Sextile Mars 3°47 Moon Trine Uranus 5°21 Mercury Sextile Mars 4°12 Mercury Trine Uranus 2°38 Venus Conjunction Jupiter 3°48 Venus Trine Pluto 4°34 Venus Conjunction Ascendant 1°05 Mars Sextile Uranus 1°34 Jupiter Square Uranus 2°47 Jupiter Conjunction Ascendant 4°53 Neptune Sextile Pluto 2°56 Pluto Trine Ascendant 3°29 Numbers indicate orb (deviation from the exact aspect angle). Copyright © 2003 ASTRODIENST AG report a problem -
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Did You Support Children Getting Baptized?
by minimus inafter reading blondie's thread of the baptisms at the district convention, i couldn't help but identify with the 11 year old that said she was so happy to be baptized and has wanted to be baptized for years now.
i was 9 when i got baptized but really wanted to take the plunge at around 7. after my mother talked to the congregation servant about my desire, he said that she should not hold me back.
my daughter was 14 when she got baptized.
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Minimus, I can only assume that she was referring to the idea that he was simply following some pre-destined course set out for him ( read prophesy here) leading to giving his life to save mankind. My reasoning to her was that if it is figured that Jesus was 30, then he was clearly an adult, and if the perfect son of God does not take the big plunge of baptism until he is without question an adult with many years of experience behind him so as to be fully aware of what he is doing, why on earth should it ever be acceptable for a mere child to agree to a lifetime commitment? I should also point out that her position is that it is perfectly acceptable based on the individual child's level of maturity and that the "brothers" are capable of deciding if the appropriate level of understanding exists to allow the child to proceed. Other than making it clear that I disagreed completely with her, I did not pursue the subject past that point. I can't express to her the multitude of reasons why I disagree with her because she cannot handle that kind of in-depth discussion. It would pose a threat to her carefully constructed
house of cardsfaith, and I have no right to impose my views on her anymore than she has the right to impose hers on me now that I am an adult. It is of course my hope that both of my parents will see it all for what it is and get out while they still have some good years left, but that is a decision they have to make on their own, just as I did. -
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Did you take down notes at the meetings?
by JH inwere you the type to always jot down every little detail the brothers said from the podium?.
i found it amusing when especially sisters were always writting notes in their pads when the brother was giving a talk in the front.. i wonder if it was because they found the topic interesting, or because they wanted to look as if they were learning something.. i was all ears, but never took down notes.
that's odd, coming from a person who is "visual".
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caligirl
If i did , it was only to stay awake! Doodled a lot as well.
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