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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

Twitch

But...if that happened, some people would lose their purpose in life

True but much like the Hindenburg, you can't help but watch the thing go down in flames.
Oh the humanity

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

How Will Armageddon Begin?

by Cold Steel in

and how long will it last?

and who will come after that, yahweh, as the old testament says or jesus, as the new testament says?

the scriptures say he'll come to the mount of olives, but surely that's a spiritual mount of olives.

What do you think would have happened to you if...

by LevelThePlayingField in

you found out about ttatt way back in the 70's or maybe the 80's (basically before the internet) and you thought that you were all alone in this knowledge?

what do you think would have happened to you?

no jehovahs-witness.com, no john cedars, no arc, no jwfacts.com and no crisis of conscience to fall back on.

Twitch

For those of you who have actually experienced this for real, please share your experience.

Well, I guess I qualify.

I was essentially born in and was raised with the beliefs but even as a kid I had questions whose answers didn't really make sense. Such as when I wondered about all the children and babies of so called "wicked tribes" that were slaughtered in the name of YHWH and those that died in the flood. I reasoned that these were innocent and were executed for no better reason than being born to "wicked" people and not because they were deserving. Even then I found it a bit hard to imagine every person in the world other than Noah's family were beyond redemption and forgiveness. Why would a loving god do or command such things? As a kid I questioned and the answers didn't make sense, this problem of evil. There seemed to be much that was just accepted and not discussed, such as the creation account and Adam/Eve being at apparent odds with evolution and the fossil record (I was big into dinosaurs and the history of animals)

As a teenager, such questions festered and caused me some amount of distress as more blatent and obvious inconsistencies arose. Tthe nature of god, jesus, angels and demons, all of which there seemed no real evidence for other than hearsay. The number of different beliefs based on the same book and the number of non christian beliefs had me questioning why I thought what I believed was true. Why any of it was true. It seemed there was an evolution of belief as well. Why would god confuse his children so? Again the problem of evil reared it ugly head when considering the immient destruction of the vast majority of humankind, and again I reasoned that not all non witnesses were deserving of destruction for no better reason than not being witnesses. By this time I had a bit more experience and knew people that I didn't think deserved such a fate. And of course, being a teenager I yearned for a path to make my own and rebelled against the fate I was told was inevitable.

Anywho, I made up my mind that whatever the result I wanted no part of the fate foretold by desert nomads. I moved out when I turned 18 and stopped going to meetings, over a short period of time. I made friends and dated whomever I wished. I did drugs and partied hard. I learned to play bass guitar and played in hard rock bands. I never looked back, though I was in a hall twice since age 20, once for a memorial and once for my brother's baptism (he's since left as well). This was by the mid 80s, well before the internet, I never read any "apostate" literature or met another xjw until around 2004, when I joined a meetup group, then this site.

So, I basically just decided to live a life I wanted and roll the dice. LIke anyone.

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Origin of Life

by cofty in

in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

Twitch

Well said Sanchy

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Can you prove that our entire universe and existence is not a computer simulation?

by EndofMysteries in

if you were a computer programmer and you were to create a simulated automated world, that would constantly evolve and self run after initial designs.

first you would have to code the rules, laws, and core elements of this world.

while this is being coded, the program is not run yet, so none of it exists.

Twitch

Well, if this simulation idea is true then someone should upgrade the thing because there's some serious bugs happening. Someone's code might crash...

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Mouthy has Passed Away

by Simon in

jw
friends

update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.

i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.

- may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.

Twitch

Sad to hear the news.

She came across as such a kind soul.

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I think this is an important question...

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

when i first met my wife and on that so important first date i was 21 years old and sadly broke, she was an 18 year old au pair.

any way i treated her to mcdonald's but she had to pay for the meal.

now over 20 years later and still together, i realize how lucky i was she didn't say on that first date " if you can't afford to pay "our" mcdonald's meal f...off" .

Twitch

Because you read that as "sport scar," Dr. Freud might wonder what YOU are into, m'dear.

Projection, for starters...

Lol

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People hate God?

by looter in

jw
friends

it is a pain that certain individuals pride themselves on hating god, who created everything.

like it's understandable that you choose to not believe in him because of your selfishness or thinking skills but to hate him is forcing it a bit.

i'm very thankful that those such as myself have the courage to believe in the lord.

Twitch

OP

Eh, whatever

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Sun,moon, earth and mathematics .

by atomant in

just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.

that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!

but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.

Twitch

yes, standing waves tha could be the result of interference of the many pulsation sources in the sun, grid, or standing waves resulting from interference with another frequency, 160 minutes from beyond. like ocean waves, that, if reflected form patterns too, and leave their more permanent mark in the sand, only faint traces of the ,3 AU wavelength and 9.6 AU wavelength might now have been found.

What pulsation sources in the sun?

As mentioned, standing waves are a specific wave interference pattern requiring a fixed point where the wave is reflected back to the source. Please identify the fixed point in the solar system that would cause this to happen.

Wave interference between different frequencies does not create standing waves, by definition. Just for fun, answer me this; what are the points called where interfering waves reinforce each other and where they reduce each other?

PS: when I worked on this I was in volontary confinemt on a tropical Island, surfing, a "full in" witness, considering the bible inerrant, and of course everything was waves , accoustics. "God said":

Are you saying God told you "everything is waves?"

PS. I tried to crack Bode by analysing where it varies, and by how much from the true values. Not the glaring ones like neptune, but Mars, Mercury, Saturn, and a common factor came up 186 000 ( I had got my papers in Waikiki), so "c" waves were involvesmay be light creates not only rainbows but curved rings in the ecliptic too.

Do you mean to say now that light is a factor that proves exceptions to the Titius-Bode rule? How does light affect the planets' orbits?