Sounds like he may be starting to see that not all is well in the troof. i've seen more and more starting to lose "zeal" and move away.
jula71
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Brother made a very "unelderlike comment"
by mkr32208 inmy older brother is the only one of my siblings still doing the witness thing.
pioneer wife he's a young go getter elder really an up and comer type thing very influential friends really plays the politic game etc... anyway lately he seems a bit depressed, sleeps a lot, seems distracted... now he has recently started his own business and i know that me leaving the troof has bothered him so maybe thats all there is too it but maybe not!.
ok i'll lay it out and you guys tell me what you think!
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If there's some good in the Watchtower, why leave it?
by AlmostAtheist inthe post about crisis of conscience in which the poster said he knows there's some bad in the watchtower (as brought out in coc), but there's some good in it too got me to wondering about people that stay for the good in it.. the united states makes some decisions as a country that i don't agree with, perhaps even object strongly to.
but i don't disavow my citizenship.
it's mostly a good place to live, so i stay.. if you want to live in a way that utterly conflicts with the watchtower -- homosexual, multiple sex partners, smoking, whatever -- then you have reason to leave.
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jula71
You have to ask yourself, does the good outweigh the bad?
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The next Pope Murdered?
by jula71 innostradamus had 'grim warning' for new pope
the pope elected to succeed john paul ii will be assassinated and his death will spark a muslim invasion of the west that will split the roman catholic church, according to an interpretation of nostradamus's prophecies by a leading colombian author.
"the next pope elected will be subsequently murdered in central italy," said gonzalo echeverri, a colombian investigating judge and author of a book on nostradamus.
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Nostradamus had 'grim warning' for new pope
The pope elected to succeed John Paul II will be assassinated and his death will spark a Muslim invasion of the West that will split the Roman Catholic church, according to an interpretation of Nostradamus's prophecies by a leading Colombian author.
"The next pope elected will be subsequently murdered in central Italy," said Gonzalo Echeverri, a Colombian investigating judge and author of a book on Nostradamus.
"Then comes pope number 112, who will flee Rome because of an attack by Muslims."
Mr Echeverri says the pope will base himself in Avignon, France, and another pontiff will take control in Italy, splitting the Catholic church in two.
"There is a very clear prophecy that says the holy father will move to another place, even warning that the French pope will not be able to stay in Avignon due to the Muslim invasion and will flee again to Lyon, where he will be attacked, according to Nostradamus," Echeverri said.
Avignon was a base for popes for much of the 14th century, another time of grave divisions in the church and Europe.
Nostradamus was a 16th century scholar who made prophecies.
His supporters say he predicted the French revolution, the rise of Hitler and the assassination of President John F Kennedy.
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That?s some pretty interesting stuff. I believe Nostradamus is a few up on the WT in the prophecy department.
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are congregation revolving around mini-moguls or dynasties of elitist JW?
by cyborgVision inin your experience, did you ever see congregation being revolved around clan-like, all-influential families?.
i don't know about your experiences, but in my personal experience and basically wherever i went i've seen congregation being influenced by mini dynasties of elitist jw.
in fact their influence goes far beyond of what you'd normally consider "spirituality" and branches down to some absolutely bizarre issues such as what type of car you should drive, what brand of clothing is "christian", what sort of barbeque is appropriate, even what cereal you should not buy since it supports "babylon the great", etc.
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jula71
I can truthfully say that has been the case in every hall I have been in, no question.
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jula71
I can see BOAHELL having different parts of the bar, each one a theme, the Catholic schoolgirl room, french maid, and of course can't leave out the naughty nurse........................the plan pulling together!!!!!!
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When the cats away - how do you meeces play?
by Crumpet inwhen your other half is out of town, or you just have the luxury of being alone, what is your favourite way of passing the time?
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jula71
Oh man...I love weekends like that!!!! Loud music, action/war movies, much beer, and yes......in my underwear as well. Must be a guy thing.
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I'm going to Bethel... Wanna Come?
by RichieRich inso my mother suprised me about a week ago by telling me we are going on a bus trip to bethel from april 13-17. for those of you who aren't used to this concept, american dubs seem to think that packing themselves on the bus with 60 other witnesses and driving for 4 days is somehow going to strengthen themselves spiritually.
well, i doubt that will work for me.
i was just wondering, is there anything i should look for/ be on the alert for?
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jula71
I made this trip about 8+ years ago. The bus ride ride was pretty boring and long. Bring a walkman with plenty of CD's....
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Daniel's Prophecy
by startingover insince i quit going to meetings some years ago, i was not familiar with the 1999 "pay attention to daniel's prophecy" book.
because of my interest in 607 etc.
i decided to read it.
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Here is the newest one I've heard my brother (hard-core Elder) use. The iron and clay feet is still the Anglo-American powers but they are composed of the right vs. left, Rep. vs. Dem......... pretty interesting twist. His point was never before have the two parties been so divided. (must have forgotten the duels and civil war in the past) I'm waiting for the "new light" from the WTBTS too come out .
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Another Crisis of Conscience Thread... :)
by jeanniebeanz in.
just got my copy of crisis of conscience.
*puts on vivaldi, finds eyeglasses, sits down with a fresh cup of coffee, buckles seatbelt, opens book* introduction...... (see you guys in a couple days...).
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jula71
Still have to find a copy...........
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Where are you right this minute?
by coffee_black ini thought it might be interesting to see where everyone is...home...work...someplace interesting?.
i'm in the world trade center in boston, sitting looking out at boston harbor.
i have to do a presentation today at the build boston show... a tradeshow for architects and builders.
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jula71
In work munching on a SUBWAY BMT.......