LET'S GET IT ON - OWWW BABY (Marvin Gaye - even his last name was bad)
AFTERNOON DELIGHT
Does anyone remember a song I think it's called DISCO LADY by Johnny Somebody - the lyrics sort of went
move it in, move it out , move it up, move it down, disco lady..... OMG I was so embarrassed when this came on the radio and my mom heard it. But I listened to it all the time on my own.
PILLOW TALK - Sylvia with all that moaning
I loved R & B and Funk so I was always hiding my music.
Evi
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by loosie in.
what is the most ridiculous song that you couldn't listen too.. because of so called bad lyircs (maybe misheard lyrics), sexy beat or because fo the person who sang it didn't have the proper morals?.
mine.... couldn't listen to ac/dc because it meant they went both ways.
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Watchtower study - so long and so boring
by Donkey Lipz ini remember going to sunday meetings...the public talks went by fast (sometimes).
but the watchtower study to me was so boring and not interesting at all.
it felt longer than the public talk.
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I just remember those loooong, waaarm, laaazzzy, Sunday afternoon meetings. Oh boy, I'm dozing off just thinkin' about it.
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Are You A Better Person Now That You're Out of the "Truth"?
by minimus indo you feel better?
act better?
think more positively?
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I like myself a lot better now.
I have more empathy and I'm less judgemental of myself and others. I don't have to have all the "right" answers or the "right" religion. It's ok for me not to know everything.
I am more relaxed, not constantly looking over my shoulder to see who's watching.
I have more trust in people and the universe and in the knowledge that I can survive difficult situations without falling apart as the JW would have us believe.
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The hypocrisy of the DF policy
by Sirona ini posted recently about a jw friend on mine getting df'd.
(she was the only jw who kept in touch with me when i left 5 years ago).. now i'm just so angry about some things that have been said by my jw family.
just this last weekend my friend hit rock bottom.
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Yes, the policy is ugly and unfair. I am neither DA or DF but faded over 20 yrs ago. My mom shunned me off and on for years but because of my status some dubs do speak to me when I happen to run into them.
But here is a scary thought: My JW mom died recently. I spent alot of time by her side as she was dying as did many of her witless friends. Would they have let me in to see her if I had been DA or DF? I don't think so and this completely freaks me out as it shows how much power they can have over ones life. Many times I thought about writing that disassociation letter and stickin it to them. But I didn't want to lose all possibility of contact with my mom. So sad. Best wishes to you and your friend.
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control
by John Doe infirt of all, a bit of background.
i'm 26 years old, am a math major/english minor senior on a full scholarhip in college, was raised as one of jehovah's witnesses, babtized when i was 18, left at ~ 22/23, am now agnostic/deist/confused.
i was raised on a farm in a witness family.
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Hi JD
You have had some very difficult situations to cope with and I understand you would like to move on with your life with a minimum of negative feelings and recriminations. I also felt like that for many years. Hey, live and let live, right? It was only when my depression and feelings of inadequacy refused to budge that I had to come to terms with my anger towards the JW and my painful feelings. Sometimes anger can be a useful emotion because it tells us that something is wrong. When we can release our true feelings, and accept ourselves, the good, the bad, and the ugly, we can begin to heal. Or so I hope...
Sorry to sound New Agey. I recognize your stress is overwhelming but your will to be healthy is strong. Good luck with everything.
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New Here.....And Grieving
by evita ini have been lurking for quite a few months.
i have been trying to get up enough nerve to tell you my whole story but am finding it painful and scary to write about.
so here's the shorter version until i get brave enough to spill all the details.
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Thank you to everyone for your loving and thoughtful responses to my story. I am so glad to have found this place and hope to get to know you all better. I wish I had this board when I was leaving the W's. I could have really used your support and wisdom. Oh well, better late than never. I did read everything I could get my hands on... COC, Orwellian world, Visions of Glory...and therapy helped immensely. I am also fortunate to have some good friends who help me feel "normal" if you know what I mean.
Strangely enough, while my mom was serving the JW's, my Dad was involved with another cult of sorts.
He became very involved with est and married an est trainer. Fortunately, I was an adult at the time and not forcibly subjected to his beliefs. Still, my life has taken some very strange turns mainly due to parents who were quite uncoventional. More details to come...
I am not too computer savvy and am still trying to figure out how to do all those fancy things you guys do in your posts so bear with me.
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New Here.....And Grieving
by evita ini have been lurking for quite a few months.
i have been trying to get up enough nerve to tell you my whole story but am finding it painful and scary to write about.
so here's the shorter version until i get brave enough to spill all the details.
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I have been lurking for quite a few months. I have been trying to get up enough nerve to tell you my whole story but am finding it painful and scary to write about. So here's the shorter version until I get brave enough to spill all the details.
My mom died in December. She was a very fanatic JW for over thirty years. She became a witness when I was 14...I was baptized at 15 and did the slow fade from 19-22 years of age. As I matured, I began to see how untrue "the truth" really was and all the beliefs seemed so ridiculous I couldn't tolerate it anymore. Also, to be perfectly honest, I wanted a life, an education, freedom from unnecessary guilt, real friends. I was so unhappy....I hated the boring meetings, field service, the judgments, the gossip etc....So I left. That was 23 years ago.
My mom was heartbroken. She barely spoke to me for ten years. I was neither DF or DA but I lost all my friends. Meanwhile, I went to college (BA English Lit.), got married and had 3 beautiful boys (13 and twins 9). My life has been good but I have often felt like a broken person. I have been in therapy for 12 years.
My mother came in and out of my life in the past 23 years depending on how righteous she was feeling, how depressed she was, or what the latest WT said. I never knew exactly why. Sometimes she would be horribly cruel and other times very loving. We would often fight bitterly and I was an angry, wounded daughter for many years. Things got a little better after she came to believe she was one of the annointed and almost got disfellowshipped for it. But her loyalty to the ORG never wavered and she had a reputation for having an extremely "sensitive conscience".
The past two years were relatively peaceful. A couple times a month, the kids and I would take her out for lunch. We'd talk about recipes and the kids. We were always very careful not to offend her. The children knew not to discuss Holidays, Pokemon, Karate, Birthdays, YU-GI-OH, action figures, magic tricks.... so you can imagine we were very limited in our relationship with her.
In October of last year, she was diagnosed with a rare type of cancer that spread rapidly throughout her colon
and abdomen. She desperately wanted her children with her ( I have a bro and sis, both faded from JW) and we were with her when she died 8 weeks later. She was 69 years old.
Many of her witness friends helped with her care and were very loving. It was very surreal being surrounded by dubs after so many years. I even attended her memorial...what a weird experience.
I loved my mom. She was smart, beautiful, talented, sensitive, and loving. She was also a religious fanatic, judgmental, self-righteous, self-hating, depressed, and extremely jealous. I am devastated by her death. I am mourning not only my lost relationship with her, but my lost years as a JW, and all the years I have spent recovering from it all.
On a positive note, I am married to a very supportive guy and I have a close relationship with my sister. Being here on this board helped me so much late in the evening when my mom was dying. I felt as if you all understood what I was going through and I did not feel so alone. Thanks to you all for your courage and honesty. -
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Your Most DREADED Dub Word
by GetBusyLiving ini wanna hear the word that made you either physically nauseous or burst out in uncontrolable laughter.
please demonstrate it in a sentence as well.
mine was 'enthused' (my fingers were shaking as i typed).
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A few more:
Do your UTMOST.
Do not become UNEVENLY YOKED.
PRECIOUS TRUTHS
HOUSEHOLDER
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Your Most DREADED Dub Word
by GetBusyLiving ini wanna hear the word that made you either physically nauseous or burst out in uncontrolable laughter.
please demonstrate it in a sentence as well.
mine was 'enthused' (my fingers were shaking as i typed).
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"Jehovah God" Dear Jehovah God, How are you? I am fine. "Lowly ones, Humble brothers, Meek and Mild ones" etc..... Jehovah forbid you should ever feel GOOD about yourself or get too "Puffed up with Pride" "Sheeplike ones" BAAAAAAAAAA "Theocratic" This was just bizarre. OK I have to lie down again, I can only take so much of this.
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Your Most DREADED Dub Word
by GetBusyLiving ini wanna hear the word that made you either physically nauseous or burst out in uncontrolable laughter.
please demonstrate it in a sentence as well.
mine was 'enthused' (my fingers were shaking as i typed).
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Stumble - We wouldn't want to be seen coming out of an R rated movie because we might stumble a "weaker one" Bad association spoils useful habits - the only scripture I remember ha ha Faithful and Discreet Slave - Sounded very secretive... The ministry - UGH I think I have to go lie down now!