i touch on this subject in another post but i felt the need to take it further...back in the day jw's went out in fs but i don't know about today.... i live in a big city....the territory my congregation has is small because there are so many cong.
here.. our bookstudy only had maybe four blocks at the most to work.
my ex husband and i would go to the meetings and hear talk about fs and all the wonderful and experiences and the joy oh joy in being out in the ministry.
I guess i was the sucker, because i never lied about my hours. maybe if i did i would not have had such a hard time...i remember how the service overseer would get on me about not turning in my time...i used to say "i don't have any for this month" he would get so frustrated then when the CO came to visit he would really have his drawers in a bunch...saying "you gotta have something, an hour or two"
now it's all clear.. my family was making their numbers look bad...it's all about the numbers...
i (we) are fuming, chilliwack is a small town outside vancouver , bout 100,000. our only needle exchange was ousted from their temporary spot to right across from my shop, i am a small nail/esthetics women only shop,,,,,needless to say i am livid, along with the senior condo ($180,000) owners across and beside.
i, along with a retired prominent lawyer, and many businesses, a[t managers are going on an all out assault.
it is called,,,o.c.t.
I agree Talesin... poverty is no joke...and doesnt make you less of a person, nor does it mean you don't have class, in fact i find that people who have experienced the "have and have nots" tend to have more common sense and that trumps so called "class"
I have recvd free condoms, i don't see anything wrong with it. If the Government wants to give me something and i qualify for it...I'm going to take it. I have to pay around 7,000 in taxes for last year...
i think so.
very few couples got divorced, even after they were caught with another person.i know that most that got df'd for straying still didn't get divorced----they tried to work it out.
have you seen this too?
I know plenty JW's who are married but sleep in separate rooms. I know a few that are married but live separate. Then there are the ones who are just miserable...it's all over their faces. But all of my former married JW friends are now divorced including myself...so i think the numbers in the divorce area is going up. The younger generation don't care so much about towing the line and keeping up the "look" they are divorcing even though the "borg" tells them not to.
i touch on this subject in another post but i felt the need to take it further...back in the day jw's went out in fs but i don't know about today.... i live in a big city....the territory my congregation has is small because there are so many cong.
here.. our bookstudy only had maybe four blocks at the most to work.
my ex husband and i would go to the meetings and hear talk about fs and all the wonderful and experiences and the joy oh joy in being out in the ministry.
I touch on this subject in another post but i felt the need to take it further...back in the day JW's went out in FS but i don't know about today...
I live in a big city....The territory my congregation has is small because there are so many cong. here.
our bookstudy only had maybe four blocks at the most to work. My ex husband and I would go to the meetings and hear talk about FS and all the wonderful and experiences and the joy oh joy in being out in the ministry. JW's would give comments about how they worked in FS. and encouraged the weak ones to join them...well being that my family was considered weak we decided to try harder now this went on for years...everytime we went out in FS 1. no one ever showed up maybe 6 or 7 people at the most.
2. the bother would give us our assignments and we would go to the block assigned and wait and wait and wait...where were the pioneers? the people that were assigned to the territory? why they would disappear. we would drive around looking...no one. This happened all the time. After a while i asked what was going on. The answer i was given was "you got to get with people" HOW? what happened to following the arrangement? If it was summer the answer was "the pioneers are on vacation"
VACATION! who takes vacation from FS? Jesus didnt take vacation from preaching.
Conclusion: LIES! all LIES! JW's arent going out in FS like they say they do..oh yeah when the CO visits then everyone is out...but in the day to day grind..there are only a few and rarely is it door to door. they claim to have bible studies or return visits...maybe it's just my area... has anyone else noticed this?
i've just finished reading this book
i was brought up in the society, seen the elder arrangement brought in, seen changes and in fighting - and finally sttof down as a snr circuit elder in england because of the abuse issue and the society covering up.
i have also the seen the society flee and cya because of the data protection act in the uk.
Thanx! I'm mailing my MO first thing in the morning. can't wait to read it!
i've lived in my new house for a year and a half... in a nice newer neighborhood, in town.. the dubs have never been to my house and i've never seen them in the neighborhood.
i'm home almost all day every day!.
i've had the mormons here 3 times.
oh no no no! I have moved three times in the past year all three place where in big cities the jw's came to my door once...where i'm living now...i know the congregation that covers this area..and i know that in this area the territory should be covered at least every two weeks or so the jw came to this door only once and they were on this block the other day and didnt do all the houses because we were working in the yard (no one knows i live here) i don't work thus i'm here just about everyday all day. My husband said they never used to come to his door and he lived in a supposed heavily worked area.
Conclusion: all that preaching that they claim that they do i'm starting to believe it aint so true
we are now approaching the year 2005, i am again going to all the meetings and most of my friends are jw's.
however, i don't feel that 'love' for god, and i certainly don't feel that he listens when i pray, which i do every day.
after talking about this with an elder, he suggested i study some more, and i am currently studying the book 'worship the true god'.
I actually felt a bigger void inside the org. Even though i don't pray too often now when i do pray i feel like i'm being heard. When i was in the org i never felt i was being heard nor did i feel any closer to God. i decided to just take it slow...i went to church and that didnt feel exactly right but there is a minister i listen to from time to time and i like his sermon he uses the bible and when he doesnt understand something he says that he doesnt understand it or he'll say that he's using his opinion and i can respect that.
The thing that bothers me now is when i look back on my life and i see how ignorant i was. I must have hurt alot of people because i was so indifferent. Thats because as jw's everyone that isnt one is considered to be walking dead. so you don't take the time to get to know people, you turn down friendships and ignore your family. I'm just trying to learn how to feel and love... real love, not that phony crap we learned like, giving someone a track when someone dies. it's sad, I just learned that someone i know that is a jw mother died and they didnt give the woman a furneral because she wasnt a Jw.....be glad that you feel some emptiness, it's better than being full of lies and indifference.
i've just finished reading this book
i was brought up in the society, seen the elder arrangement brought in, seen changes and in fighting - and finally sttof down as a snr circuit elder in england because of the abuse issue and the society covering up.
i have also the seen the society flee and cya because of the data protection act in the uk.
I ordered the book through borders but they sent me a card saying that it is now out of print...
i always wondered why we were not spending the money to build halls in remote and poor areas that needed them - but instead we would build new halls and sell old ones in places where we were seeing little growth.. every congregation in this area has built a new hall in the past 20 or so years.
yet the congs are the same basic size they were before.
most have had a least one major remodel since building new.
Luna 2:
"Like a giant bedroom"
I am in tears laughing at that...I never thought about it but it's soooo true the assembly hall in my area looks like a big bedroom too!
song 217.
10 min: local announcements.
selected announcements from our km.
this is nothing new they have been printing that dumb schedule for some years now.
I know i used to feel really bad when the schedule was printed in the km. You actually feel like this is how my life should be and when you can't keep the schedule you feel like a complete failure. Plus they would always have a demonstration at the KH with an elders family acting out a family study and stating how they where able to keep up. I used to feel like "how do they do it....I thought that jehovah wasnt with my family" then after a while i realized that it was a bunch of lies nobody can keep a schedule like that along with working and going to school and trying to keep a marriage together and your kids happy. Pleeeeze i stopped believing the hype.
