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  Molested by JW who went to Bethel

  by DeeR in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i was molested by a jw.

  he was a young man about 19 yrs.old and he went to bethel after molesting me and i was only about 12 or 13 yrs.old.

  i have never told anyone because i was so afraid of being disfellowshipped for letting this happen to me.

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  sass_my_frass

  (((Dee)))

  I'm so sorry this happened to you. If you ever wonder what happened to that guy, at least you know that he had a miserable life; everybody in Bethel does. I hope that you're able to find ways to enjoy your life from now on.
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  If God admitted he had effed it all up and asked for your help ...

  by Crumpet in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if god existed and came to you and admitted actually he was fallible and a bit of an ego problem but was undergoing therapy to deal with his jealous and violent disposition and was genuinely sorry for making such a mess of the world by insisting on worship of himself, could you forgive him?

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  and if he asked you to be part of a committee to sort out his mess - what would you suggest he started with?

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  I'd say "Jesus Christ!!", and he'd say "Yeah, we've got to talk about that."
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  Two JWs showed up at the door

  by sass_my_frass in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ... well, at the driveway actually, i was getting into the car.

  i recall that when i was out on the preach and people weren't where they were supposed to be (opening the door, surprised to see me, where i can catch them off guard) i didn't start by having complete control of the conversation.

  these guys came around the corner and saw me and i had a few seconds to calm myself and try to remember what i'd intended to say to the next jw who calls by, and i nearly got all of it.

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  ... well, at the driveway actually, I was getting into the car. I recall that when I was out on the preach and people weren't where they were supposed to be (opening the door, surprised to see me, where I can catch them off guard) I didn't start by having complete control of the conversation. These guys came around the corner and saw me and I had a few seconds to calm myself and try to remember what I'd intended to say to the next JW who calls by, and I nearly got all of it.

  One was a lot nicer than the other, and it was the nice guy whose turn it was to do the door. He opened with the usual, in the neighbourhood, offering WT and Awake, have you seen them? I was in a kind and calm mood by then and told him that yes I had. He showed me one with a title re evil, and asked where I think all this evil comes from. I paused and smiled and told him that, actually, my mum became a Jehovahs Witness, and it destroyed our family (that happens to be true). He was a bit puzzled as to where to go next, so I explained that the JWs in our family don't talk to the non-JWs because we are "not good enough to associate with" (I tried to avoid catchphrases, because if I knew their language too well they'd know I had been deeper into it than I was pretending). I said that I think that this is wrong. The nice guy mentioned that his family don't talk to him any more either, I guess he didn't grow up JW. Between them they tried to explain that families just have to learn to live with their differences and I tried to explain that yes I know that, but it's the JWs who don't talk to the witnesses, not the other way around. The meaner guy took on the air of a man who was pretending he hadn't heard it and was indifferent. The nice guy said that he didn't know what to say, and I said "yeah I know. But I really don't want the magazines." He wished me a good day, I did the same to them as they turned around, and I was trying to remember what I want to tell every JW but I was a bit flummoxed. When they'd turned the corner and gone I flipped them off a lot because I felt like venting, and I knew that my neighbour was watching and she knows the whole story. She gave me the thumbs up as I drove off.

  It went well I think, I delivered just that little thought in a way that it will stay with them for a while, because I didn't give them any reason to dismiss it. I wasn't angry or aggressive, just obviously sad about my family and very calm, even pitiful for them. If the nice guy ever has an epiphany about WBTS this will be one of the things that he'll remember. As I drove off I remembered what I should have closed with: "I know that you won't believe me, but it doesn't change the fact that in a few decades you're going to grow old and die. When that's about to happen, are you going to be proud of the way you treated your family?" Damn I wish I'd said that. When I got to the corner I saw that five or six car groups of JWs were pulled up in the park over the road, doing their morning tea thing. They'd probably just left the meeting and these two guys had decided to start counting time before tea break. Sure left them feeling shaken by it. I very nearly pulled over and got the nice guys attention to say that but I chickened out.
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  Has anyone tried the USANA health products? #1 in Quality???

  by What-A-Coincidence in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone tried these health products?

  compared to shaklee, gnc and others ... the vitamins/supplements from osana are to be superior.

  http://products.usana.com/en/products/us/index.shtml?isretail=1.

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  My sister and her husband started selling USANA. They're very expensive due to the marketing system behind them (some version of multilevel). They cost far more than they need to, so they're sold in glossy packaging as the 'best quality'. That's rubbish - vitamins are vitamins. If you are concerned about your health and want to invest in it long-term, you'd be better off spending less money on good quality food, getting your vitamins and minerals from there.

  USANA reps also encourage you to take way more than your body needs. Your body literally needs no more than the RDI of each, and you can get that from fresh veges, fruit, meat or nuts/legumes. I know a guy who had kidney stones because he took a lot of supplements - it's an extreme example because he opened around thirty different vitamin/mineral/herb containers every morning and basically breakfasted on them, but he didn't seem to take long from the point at which he just took a few supplements every day to taking far more than his body could cope with.

  If you don't believe me, at your next trip to a doctor, get their opinion on vitamin supplements.
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  Kill them with KINDNESS!!! And a great big HUG!!!! LOLOL!!!

  by Lady Liberty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello and good evening all!!.

  just thought i would share a funny story that happened to my daughter and i the other day!

  we were shopping and ran into a jw who had always been very friendly when we were active.

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  Nice one!! Good that you didn't let her get away. It's a bit irritating having to be SO NICE to these thugs to make the point though hey?
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  Do DF'd or DA'd people...

  by Trippin2962 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  get to talk to each other?

  if two df'd people saw each other on the street and both knew the other was df'd or da'd would they speak to each other?.

  they're already out of the borg at this point.

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  If you're not interested in going back, and your relatives aren't, why wouldn't you call them?

  Oh, snap! I have the mobile number here of a good friend who was disfellowshipped a few years before me. I've always been too ashamed to call her, because I went along with the shunning myself, and didn't even contact her when I found out she'd been d'd. Okay, I can relate to that. I'm going to work up the courage to talk to her today.
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  Is throwing away scholarship $$s still...

  by Trippin2962 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  wildly applauded at assemblies these days?.

  i haven't been to an assembly in years and wondered if this is still the case.

  i remember sitting and hearing a young person state that they declined a scholarship or university education to pursue "spiritual goals" and everyone would burst into applause.

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  The only good thing is this: for JWs to know that they'd turned a scholarship down, the person would have had to mention it, which means it was a big deal to them. They'll never forget that, and as the years go by it will be a decision that nags at them. If they ever experience something which makes them doubt that they're in the right place, one of their major memories will be of them being applauded for turning down a scholarship. They'll think about that every tedious morning they have to show up at their minimum-wage job, and that might eventually make them think it through.

  Okay it's a long shot. I'm in a sunny-side mood today.
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  Hi to Everyone

  by DawnLS620 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my name is dawn and i'm a ex-jw, who has been out since l976.

  i live in michigan, was born and raised here but also spent about 3 years in austin, texas (1 of them as a witness - the other two running amouk having fun).

  i just spent the last 2 1/2 hours on the phone with my dear old buddy, dave, (seven006) whom i've heard some of you know.

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  Hi Dawn and welcome. I hope that your pain has long passed but if not, that you're able to feel comfortable here talking about it and letting it go.
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  ex-JW's in Melbourne?

  by Run,dont walk! in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, i just joined this forum, am starting to go through the stories & info & hoping this will be a good support channel (i have heaps to discuss& vent lol).

  i don't have the energy to go through my life story (yet!

  ), but basically i've left the organisation, which was a gradual yet sudden process.

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  Hi Kimberley, I used to be in Melbourne but am in Canberra now. I know what you're going through. It's possible we've met, but I only remember one Kimberley, and she didn't seem the type to leave. Anyway, I hope you can hold it together through this bad time and I promise that it gets better slowly. A little bit of it always stays with us, but we can spend the rest of our lives in mental freedom and that little bit is a small price. Another good thing I've learned is that those people I loved and trusted all my life: those relationships were worthless. I only have real friends now.

  Welcome to the board!
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  Stop college or keep plugging on?...opinions please.

  by FreedomFrog in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's my situation...i'm doing college online because i can't very well do college the traditional way with a 2 year old.

  anyway, my computer has been acting really funny and it's not reliable anymore.

  my ex worked on it for almost 4 hours and the darn thing still crashes saying my "virtual" memory is too low.

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  "Plugging on" is a perfectly valid expression!

  I am doing my undergrad degree online too, and can relate to most of that. I had the funds to replace my laptop this term but it threw my study plans out a week and you've probably had it happen that once you're behind it's difficult to catch up again. Anyway... our situations are slightly different in that I'm in the kind of work that I'll probably keep doing when I finally graduate, I'm not actually very ambitious and am only studying for personal development reasons. I failed a science degree years ago and have felt dumb since. Right. The schedule of my course goes: four 13-week terms a year = 52 weeks. Week 14 is exam week AND week 1 of the next term, so there's no break between terms. It's possible to enrol in four units per term so that a 24-unit degree can be finished in 18 months, but I've never heard of it happening. I did four terms in a row last year and became miserable, put on 10kg and developed an inexplicable pain in my shoulder. I've since decided that for lifestyle reasons I'm going to take eight years to finish. It's not worth hurrying it at that price. So my input is that it's okay to slow down. You have what seems to be a neatly balanced list of pros and cons, but you might have to prioritise each of them more thoroughly to decide which way to go.