From memory this has been the unspoken policy for a while - anybody remember when, if a 'bible' study hadn't bought in after going through one book they had to be dumped? The people coming to our doors these days are completely gutless and truly do not want to start a real conversation or try to establish a friendship. They have to be coaxed to talk about anything, they just want to do their magazine presentation, be rejected and leave. They don't even want to talk about the truth when they're socialising with their closest friends. Talking about it raises too many difficult questions. Just cover the easy ones at the wt study and that makes it feel like you've researched.
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"This change shows how close the end we REALLY are..............."
by Warlock inaccording to one of my relatives, the co said, on a recent visit, that the offer of "everlasting life" will be brief and to the point.. when street witnessing, if people refuse, do not chase them.
in the door to door work, if someone is not interested, do not persist, just leave.. according to my relative, these changes really show "how close to the end we really are".. why is it that every change is interpreted as "this change shows how close to the end we really are"?.
i have come to realize that the wts are masters at jerking people around, and i really hate it!.
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Favorite Paul McCartney & Wings / Paul McCartney Solo Songs and Albums
by flipper inso, at the request of another poster ssrriotsquad and others i wanted to get your opinion on your favorite paul mccartney albums when he went solo either with the group wings or without.
also your favorite songs by him after he left the beatles !
so, it should be interesting !
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Without a doubt:
'We're rich enough now, we'll retire, promise'
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Any suggestions on the best way to handle tonight?
by myababes inwe have not been in the org for over 10 years now but still see the old jw's around and about.
one particular couple we used to be fairly friendly with we bumped into the other night as they are doing a course at the college my hubby lectures at.
they were never the strongest of couples but have kept going cos of their family i suppose.
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Don't even bring it up. You need to be closer to them to bring up stuff like that low-risk. Don't ruin the evening and any other chance you have of seeing them again (if you want to, that is). When you're asked, just say that you're thinking things over and keeping to yourself. Be mysterious if you want to get them curious, but you know how sensitive the aposta-radar is.
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MAgnesium and my migraine
by Vivamus inwell, first off, to you whom suggested magnesium to me, thank you (i think) .
my headaches have been a constant source of misery for me since my last desperate post regarding them.
but i did start on the magnesium treatment.
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Here's hoping...
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Anyone here that DOES believe we are in the last days of this system?
by tula injust taking a roll call here.
no empire lasts forever.
no system of government will last forever.
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No. People just want to believe in something, even when logic and fact defy it. There are people in every religion in the world like JWs, who would secretly worship in private if there ever was a massive worldwide ban on religion; lots of religions have a persecution fetish.
I DO believe that as a species we are accelerating our own demise unnecessarily, but as that's our own fault and I'll be long dead anyway it doesn't bother me. The planet will get along just fine when we're gone.
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Being a Pro-Life Atheist
by B_Deserter init's strange and i'm not sure if it's because of my upbringing, but i just can't be pro-choice.
i just don't see the rational justification (other than a situation where the mother's life is in danger).
i don't, however, see a problem with stuff like the morning-after pill, when the embryo is just a group of cells with no consciousness.
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I'm atheist now, but I never did think it was anybody else's business. I couldn't do it myself but would be there for any female friends who needed support if they went through it. I also think that it is a personal decision; and if it medically safe for the woman, there should be no government interest in the decision.
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I wish you all could read what I wrote to my family.... computer illerate.
by dawg ini would give my left nut if one of you could tell me how to post my e-mail that i gave to my family tonight... i'll e-mail it to you and i guarentee you its entertaining.... please tell me how to post it., or better yet, give me your e-mail, and i'll let you post it...
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sass_my_frass
Yowsers! Didn't pull any punches did you? How are you feeling about it?
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Chiropractic
by sass_my_frass ini have always suspected that chiropractic is a total crock.
the concept that having your backbone crackled a little bit every month will control your blood pressure, cure your asthma and keep you mobile and flu-free until you're 120 seems farfetched, and yet all my life every time i have had a headache i have been inclined to set up an appointment.. i've really only been in serious pain three times; some bad neck pain which cleared up after a depressing relationship, some lumbar pain from a bad lift incident which cleared up after three weeks of wiggling around on a fitball while i was watching tv in the evening, and some weird shoulder pain which cleared up when i rejoined a gym.
i have wasted a lot of money for many years - chiropractic just wasn't there for me.
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I have always suspected that chiropractic is a total crock. The concept that having your backbone crackled a little bit every month will control your blood pressure, cure your asthma and keep you mobile and flu-free until you're 120 seems farfetched, and yet all my life every time I have had a headache I have been inclined to set up an appointment.
I've really only been in serious pain three times; some bad neck pain which cleared up after a depressing relationship, some lumbar pain from a bad lift incident which cleared up after three weeks of wiggling around on a fitball while I was watching tv in the evening, and some weird shoulder pain which cleared up when I rejoined a gym. I have wasted a lot of money for many years - chiropractic just wasn't there for me. Fortunately it was mostly my health funds money...I've been in Canberra for a year and had to find a new guy so I made an appointment. They have one hell of an operation - he and the receptionist double-team new patients and he announces that he will treat you like it's an unusual privilege extended only to needy friends, but only on the assumption that you'll be there twice a week. I started, but invented an interstate work trip to get out of three appointments and left the waiting room just before one started because they were running 20 minutes late. I think that after a lifetime of chiropractic my xrays should be looking different to what they were when I was twelve and if they're not, it's probably always going to be that way. To be honest I'm not actually feeling in anyway bad, so I wanted to cut back my treatment to say, every month or two.
This morning he fired me. We talked it over for a while and he decided that if I wasn't happy with the treatment schedule he could recommend somebody else to me. I called his bluff on that though, and he didn't actually know any names, just waved in the direction of one. Everybody in his office looks broke; it makes me sad that he is skimming all these pensioners. I won't miss him; three-minute treatments for $40, and he barely touched me. He used a little flicker pen on my shoulder, genuinely believing in it.
Just today I've taken up believing that chiropractic is for the special kind of person who needs to be told by a professional to sit up straight. I have friends who have real, actual spinal trouble; scoliosis, fusions (natural and surgical)... none of them have a chiropractor and never will. All of my minor health problems would be solved if I exercised every day, stretched at work, stopped playing computer games until 3 am and lost 15 kg.Who is a believer? I think I might put it in the same cult category as I put Amway and the defence forces.
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How many JWs do you know that have "Failure to Launch" Syndrome
by BBOARD intired of the hypocrisy's post got me thinking ... how many jw "kids" over the age when they should have left home still live with their parents.
i say this because i have many of those in my congregation.
fyi it looks real bad to be a older man (ie 25 and up) scrub laying up at home unless you have a outstanding circumstance i.e.
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That was me; took until age 23 and I didn't do uni (until now!). My youngest brother; 27 I think.
Lemme see who else... Rob; mid-forties, tall and dark and not very interesting but harmless enough, just doesn't want to leave his mum alone.
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Ahhh, it all makes sense now...
by Mickey mouse in...things keep coming to me about why the wbts teaches certain things and it all becomes clear when you see it for what it is - a cult.. for instance, why do they counsel so strongly against hypnotism?
is it really because they suspect demonism is involved or more likely that it may disrupt all that careful programming and mind control of theirs?
what things have suddenly become clear to you?.
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Interesting point. They counsel against hypnotism as readily as they counsel against any kind of professional mental treatment, and I think that's probably because they would have noticed an extremely high dropout rate of any JW who seeks professional help with their mental health. 'Demons' are a great excuse for anything that's a bit weird.