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  Facebook --- again

  by rockmehardplace in

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  one of the jws in my congo told me to search a name on facebook which is a 18+ year old brother in our kh who is for most part, a very "spiritual" brother.

  i looked him up and his account is open for anyone to see.

  best part, he has some pictures that could very well put him into alot of trouble.

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  I tell any new friends to facebook to falsify their location and date of birth for identity protection. I tell any friends about to join to do so with a fake name. I know one JW guy who is very, very gay, and has a very gay facebook page, and a lot of giveaway info on it. I have no idea how he has avoided disciplinary action from the bores who run our old KH.
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  Most Detested WT Publication

  by Nosferatu in

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  what is the wt publication you hated the most (i mean besides all of them?).

  mine was that faggy pink "listening to the great teacher" book.

  my mother tried to teach both me and the neighbor's worldly kid lessons from that book, and you know how embarrasing it is for a boy to be put straight by a pink book?.

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  Reveation book, for the amount of times we had to study it. The first time I started writing little diary entries in the columns during the book study. It was always fun to read them and then update them as the years went by, doing that stupid book four times.
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  Were going to the DC's your only vacation?

  by Quirky1 in

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  i know many that have to save all year just to attend the dc and they can't afford to go anywhere else.

  the children actually look forward to going to the dc because they get to go out on the town afterward.

  this is their only freakin' vacation!!

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  I'm glad that the DCs were in our town because otherwise we wouldn't have been able to afford anything besides the trip to the DC. As it was, we always went away camping somewhere every year.

  My husbands' Catholic family didn't ever go away, so I don't think it's just about the religion.
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  Faith of the Fatherless: The Psychology of Atheism

  by whereami in

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  has anyone ever read this?.

  most atheists come from a family where the father was missing, dead, weak or abusive.

  paul c. vitz has written a very interesting book entitled faith of the fatherless: the psychology of atheism (spence, 1999).. .

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  Wow there's a book for every tiny little market segment isn't there?
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  Nobody should force them to wear skirts.

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  so the wife and i were watching wimbledon today.

  we saw serena beat venus williams.

  then we started watching the men's doubles.. the wife said how the men were wearing such nice preppie shirts and shorts and how the women were forced to wear skirts.. i couldn't resist.

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  That's an excellent idea. I'd like to make a suggestion with the disclaimer me not knowing you or her and wasn't there to see how the conversation went, so, sorry if this isn't my business, but here goes:

  When you get these opportunities to get through, make sure that you don't do it in a way that really drives a knife in. She'd know you well, and know what you're thinking and would anticipate a lot of what you're going to say and why you're saying it. If you're going to say something with the intention of getting a message through, do it as kindly as you can, so that she doesn't build up this history in her head of you taking every opportunity you can get to run the organisation down. I think that if I was still a JW, and my husband did so, I'd find that very demoralising.

  With eternal respect for you having kept it together for so long!

  Sass
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  The movie 'Doubt'

  by sass_my_frass in

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  this has probably come up before but i thought it was worth suggesting: this movie is quite intense but meryl streep and philip hoffman are just magnificent (as always), and it really portrays what members of an organisation do when confronted with abuse.

  the leaders of the church handle it internally, but if it's the leaders who are the perpetrators, what can be done?

  it doesn't even occur to the members of the organisation to go to the police on their own; they trust the system they know.

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  This has probably come up before but I thought it was worth suggesting: this movie is quite intense but Meryl Streep and Philip Hoffman are just magnificent (as always), and it really portrays what members of an organisation do when confronted with abuse. The leaders of the church handle it internally, but if it's the leaders who are the perpetrators, what can be done? It doesn't even occur to the members of the organisation to go to the Police on their own; they trust the system they know. The secular justice system doesn't even exist to these people.

  I think it's good to acknowledge that no organisation stands out in this way. Early on in my exit I thought that we were special cases; different, unique, and that our experiences were completely different to those of people in other religions. They really weren't in the ways that hurt us. During my exit, my husband talked about his from the catholic church while he was a teenager. At the time I dismissed the idea internally that roughly the same things were going on in his parent's minds as mine, but I was wrong.
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  A letter to the Parents

  by SixofNine in

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  a friend gave me permission to post this.

  i think it's a good letter, it might help others formulate their thoughts; she understands it may not be read or considered deeply, but things can't get much worse with her family at this point anyway.

  no contact is not that much different than contact once per year or less, and sometimes it's just really important to have the people who should know you, at least know you a little.

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  That's beautiful. I hope for her parents sake that they read it and that they're not pure ignorant stone.
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  Is being a JW like being a drug addict?

  by mkr32208 in

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  ok so once again i was thinking (damn i know i should stop doing that!

  ) and this is what i was thinking about!.

  the jw religion is very much like a drug.

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  Without question. My life got a lot easier when I started thinking of them all as hopeless addicts. Trying to help an addict can destroy a person.
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  Why do you think Jesus never wrote anything down?

  by journey-on in

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  if his message was to be followed like a rule book, wouldn't he have written down some things with his own hand?.

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  How about - he was illiterate?
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  How Long Have you Been Out of the Witnesses ? Have you Moved On ?

  by flipper in

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  i have been out over 5 years now.

  i feel we all start healing at different speeds depending on how much hurt we went through in exiting ; and how much we've educated ourselves about how and why we were sucked in by a mind control cult.

  at first i felt anger towards the organization , but after learning about mind control within 3 years of leaving the cult i felt sorry for those who are still trapped inside the witnesses being deceived.

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  Dfd 4 years ago, and I'm doing really well; I'd put my recovery at around 80%. Far worse things happen to people than the thing that happened to me. Being on a long-term honeymoon no doubt helps infinitely. Plus I have forced myself to get through a degree so I really can get on with life, and I'm halfway through now and approaching the easy streak.