Posts by sass_my

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Spiking at the DC...

by Frog in

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i hit the pillow early last night, first week back at uni is really taking its toll after a month of sleep ins and so on lol!

i must have stirred around 11pm and started reflecting on a list of thoughts that i reserve for quiet moments.

after reading a number of threads on posters that attended the dc this year, it crossed my mind momentarily last weekend that perhaps i might do the same, even if only for a couple of hours on saturday??

sass_my_frass

I'd be all over the flyers-under-the-windscreen-wiper idea if I didn't know that they assign young brothers to patrol the car parks for that exact reason. But I'm going to mine, to keep Darling Mother happy, and my man will be attending too, because I want him to see what I'm up against.

I can probably write the program myself;

Friday, two hours of welcome-and-keep-notes talks, the manuscript talk about the theme, and the family symposium (husbands lead, wives respect, children obey...)

Saturday, field service symposium, baptism, current needs (I'm guessing the internet will feature highly), the prophecy manuscript symposium

Sunday, More local needs, (I'm thinking something about loose conduct), drama, watchtower, 45 minutes of manuscripted lies to the public, and a couple of closing talks about fantastic growth in Kraplakistan and manufactured experiences of school duxes who threw in a college scholarship to clean windows.

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Am new here, would love some info on JW

by dorie in

hey all .

am new here, am the sister of a minister of the jw in ireland, and also the aunt of 2 lovely nephews soon to be baptized into jw's faith!!

we've tried for years to make her see sense and leave the jw's but it doens't work!!

sass_my_frass

I'll just paste in what I wrote yesterday...

I grew up being taught that the end of this system was just around the corner, and so it wasn't worth getting an education, or making long-term plans, so I never did and floated for a long time. Thousands of people can relate to that feeling. I noticed that most witnesses go through a bit of reading material, parts of which they do and don't accept, other parts they don't understand but accept because the person teaching them seems to get it and they seem smart enough. I could never understand why any doubts that I had about any beliefs had to be hidden from everybody for fear of being turfed out.

I've since been dismayed by what I've learned about changing teachings on blood, and chronology, among other things, and I'm disgusted by their coverup of child abuse cases. I also always hated disfellowshipping, and now that it's happened to me, I know why.

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Hi.. I'm also new and wanted some opinion...

by Lynne Y in

hi, i'm lynne.. i was wondering about religion for months and found this website.. i was hoping to get some feedbacks... almost everyone in my mom's family is a witness, and i was born and raised as a witness.

and yet, i never really wanted to get baptized, maybe because my father left the truth(?

although i don't like the expression, the truth, i don't know what else to say.. heh..).

sass_my_frass

Sorry I didn't say anything about your mom; that's a toughie. Recently they're promoting the view that even unbaptised ones who admit to not believing are 'apostate'. You should consider that your mom might be forced to cut you off, and that hurts not only her, but you too. (It really does sting to have your people turn their back on you, it's a very effective game of emotional blackmail on all sides).

It would be great to feel honest and have things out in the open, but it would also be great to pick up the phone and see how she's doing sometimes. If you'd rather keep some semblance of a normal family, it might not be so hard to be polite and warm at the meetings for a month, but do be careful who you listen to, and don't be quick to trust people with your confusion.

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Hi.. I'm also new and wanted some opinion...

by Lynne Y in

hi, i'm lynne.. i was wondering about religion for months and found this website.. i was hoping to get some feedbacks... almost everyone in my mom's family is a witness, and i was born and raised as a witness.

and yet, i never really wanted to get baptized, maybe because my father left the truth(?

although i don't like the expression, the truth, i don't know what else to say.. heh..).

sass_my_frass

Hi Lynn, it's a very big question you know. Since you've been absent from the meetings have you noticed anything about the world that you weren't expecting? I was afraid of who I'd run into out there, as I thought they were all wolves, but it turns out that there is the exact ratio of nice:nasty people inside and outside of The Truth.

I grew up being taught that this system was just around the corner, and so it wasn't worth getting an education, or making long-term plans, so I never did and floated for a long time. Thousands of people can relate to that feeling. I noticed that most witnesses go through a bit of reading material, parts of which they do and don't accept, other parts they don't understand but accept because the person teaching them seems to get it and they seem smart enough. I could never understand why any doubts that I had about any beliefs had to be hidden from everybody for fear of being turfed out.

I've since been dismayed by what I've learned about changing teachings on blood, and chronology, among other things, and I'm disgusted by their coverup of child abuse cases. I also always hated disfellowshipping, and now that it's happened to me, I know why.

I'm sorry, but the path to god isn't as simple as asking around... if you're really interested you could spend your lifetime researching it and might get as far as thinking that you're onto something, but it's a search that is as old as civilisation. You'll find people on this site who have moved to every other faith, and people who have moved away from faith altogether. All I can offer is that I've learned that you shouldn't make a decision like 'this is all I ever need to learn to be fully informed about God', at any time in your life, and to be especially careful of who you trust to teach you, as those people might not actually have a clue.

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Convention banner

by sass_my_frass in

call your local tv station, post this outside your local dc site, and see how long it takes for a team of young men in suits to look for a way to hide you.

"guard your children today.

my abuser is still an elder, and he's here.

sass_my_frass

Well in my case it's a lie, not being a victim myself, but I'd stand by holding the 'Guard your children today' sign next to the brave soul of a victim willing to hold up a 'My abuser is still an elder, and is here' sign.

My heart breaks for you folk, you're all so brave.

* sass sends hugs out to anybody who needs it *

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Convention banner

by sass_my_frass in

call your local tv station, post this outside your local dc site, and see how long it takes for a team of young men in suits to look for a way to hide you.

"guard your children today.

my abuser is still an elder, and he's here.

sass_my_frass

Call your local tv station, post this outside your local DC site, and see how long it takes for a team of young men in suits to look for a way to hide you.

"Guard your children today. My abuser is still an elder, and he's here."

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Longtime JWs: Can you recall the path of JW doubts throughout your life?

by ithinkisee in

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have any of you who were ever "raised in the truth" really traced your doubts back to as early as you remember?

i would be interested in hearing what they were.. i started tracing my path of doubts.

doubts as a child:.

sass_my_frass

Generation, terminal singleness, uneducated speakers, the fear of outside research, discouragement of education, that the Bad Associations weren't really so bad, boredom at meetings, a lack of direction, no community spirit.

It was the little things that got me questioning.

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Reason for getting disfellowshipped.

by greendawn in

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friends

what were you all disfellowshipped for?

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perhaps a frequent topic overall but i never happened to notice it.

sass_my_frass

Yeah I had changed my behaviour, reformed, and confessed, and I thought that would lead to forgiveness, but not so... apparently I just wasn't repentant, so I was disfellowshipped. They might have thought they were reading my 'heart' when they were reading my impassive face, so I was probably disfellowshipped because I'm not emotional enough. Wouldn't somebody who is repentant be begging for forgiveness? Bit of a cry?

Ugh I just want to purge my head of all the memories. It feels like a lifetime ago.

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me and the deemunz

by katiekitten in

i was lucky to have been brought up in the troof, because if i hadnt, i wouldnt have known about the demons and how they are always looking for opportunities to lead us astray by appearing as ghosties, or by making household objects float, or by getting into our house through items bought from car boot sales.. my first memories of the deemunz was quite early, say aged 5 or 6. i used to think they were at the end of the bed, and so i had to sleep with my legs curled up as tightly as possible, so they wouldnt get my toes.

i cant even begin to think what terrible things they were going to do with my piggies, but sure as the apostles i wasnt going to give them a chance.. aged 7 or 8 i knew the deemunz were after me, because i was special.

i was a jehobas witness.

sass_my_frass

oh yeah, an elder couple found demonic books in our house and burned them, and suddenly the parent's marriage got better and dad stopped being opposed. Then deemunz re-entered my life when I got a funny-looking necklace from a funny-looking lady at a market once. I stopped pioneering a couple of weeks after that, and it was a slippery slope from there...

Darling mother still senses a presence in some places. I think she's a madwoman.

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Need clarification on communication with a disfellowshipped person

by jostes in

was wondering the clarification of a relationship someone can have with their mother if they have been disfellowshipped and the daughter is in good standing with the congregation?

the daughter was baptised after the disfellowship.

does this mean the daughter is not to have a relationship with the mother.

sass_my_frass

That km 8/02 article was printed out and mailed to me when I was being disfellowshipped, to get me to stop talking to my mama. She uses some kind of logic in her head that permits it, though. I'm down with that.

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